Academic Publishing

The public funded the research. The private sector reaps the reward.

Hi tristopher

Doc, something tells me you’re speaking from experience.

I no longer feel bad about pirating my academic papers

In my country, we dont even get grant funds from the government...

And if you get your lucky to get into the cover, you have to do it and PAY to them!

I thought he was gonna say exposure

So in Academic Publishing you are literally working for "Exposure"...........lol

This whole publishing scheme is so unsuprisingly... American.

Omo is like American government and corporations are scammers.....with license.

the medical equivalent of being "paid in exposure" except its somehow even more normalized

That’s horrible :(

honestly ridiculous that our tax dollars pay for research that we then get to pay a private company to read.

As a medical librarian who has to deal with how to pay for access, not even a physical copy, of these journals I feel this. Around me Elsevier has been known as Those Greedy Bastards for 2 decades.

Yooooo

If it's not about the money, why isn't the publishing company a non-profit?

I had this conversation over and over with professors until one of them finally just told me “it’s a scam, but there’s not really a way out of it, although some people are trying to find one” she answered the question I didn’t know I had instead of the one I asked.

Every phD out here is crying a little. The truth is so painful!

Publishing so profit oriented they party with Disney corp

The realization growing from each Q&A is everything.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

.... Probably a stupid question, but why do you need a publisher in the age of the internet?

I'm surprised that none of you has put them out of business with an app. Think Twitter but for medical papers. (but not open to the general public).

It is about the dam money

If I might say so myself, as a software engineer: “oof”

"The grant money comes from the government"

In other words people are forced to pay taxes for research that they often can't access without paying the publishing company.

Sounds like this racket should fall under (what I understand of) the American "rico act."

How this is legal - anywhere - beggars belief 🤨

If they paid based on how many actually read your paper, you would still get paid zero. The price charged for a single article read is around 20 bucks. It is a few kilobytes of text considering even most researchers only read the abstract and the conclusions part, which are maybe half a page combined. These papers are produced en masse by universities and colleges because it is one of the criteria for the institute rankings. And that matters because.. I don't give a fuck. Most of the technological development is done by corporate Research & Development divisions, so missing out on the institutional "chaff" and for-publishing-quota papers is a boon.

*cries in non-tenure*

Glad I chose to be a mechanic. At least I know I I will be taken advantage of, and I don't have a triple digit overhead, lol!

Man it's the same thing with high fashion magazines. I know we, models, are not doing research about cancer or a new protein that nobody ever described before, but it would be at least decent to get paid for the editorials and even covers we make for those magazines. But right, prestige pays our bills a lot better 🤧

Thank you SciHub and other groups for making research available to the public who already paid for that research in more ways than money

greedy to gatekeep access to health info, and legal proceedings. these are supposed to be for public benefit, as we're taught since grade school

Doctors, scientists, and other researchers should start their own researcher owned publications.

Academic Publishing Prestige lubricates the wheels of med school admissions/ residency and fellowship match for anyone else on that paper. 😆 Personally, my research experience gave me a different approach to learning than a lot of my classmates that came straight from undergrad to medical school. The publishing aspect gave me a lot of persistence so I can troubleshoot low scores on practice tests.

What do you get?

“Exposure”

Ojalá fuera sólo así de perverso. En realidad hay mucha gente que publica sin tener fondos de investigación, y en muchas revistas (sobre todo las estadounidenses) tú tienes que pagar una cantidad absurda de dinero sólo para publicar, más aún si son revistas prestigiosas, y aún más si quieres que el artículo sea de acceso libre. Por no hablar de que el margen de beneficios del 40% tiene en cuenta que los gastos son mínimos: no se paga por revisar artículos (lo hacemos nosotras, como investigadoras), y la edición necesaria y los gastos para los servidores son mínimos. El sistema de publicaciones de las revistas es absurdo e innecesario y entorpece los avances científicos y las discusiones sociales informadas, con el beneplácito e incluso la aprobación directa y el fomento de las instituciones reguladoras, como es el caso de la ANECA en España. "Publish or perish". Capitalismo en su sentido más absoluto.

Edit: Me quedé pensando en el juicio de las grandes editoras de estas revistas contra Sci-Hub y contra Internet Archive. No conozco a una sola persona que investigue exclusivamente gracias a esas herramientas y tantas otras. La piratería es el único medio que hace la ciencia globalmente accesible.

As the Joker said, it's not about money... it's about sending ...a message

Because academics suck with money. They dont know how to negotiate for themselves and are thus everyones bitch.

"Will that be cash, check, or prestige, Sir?"

حال الأطباء مزري يا جماعة!

I would like a second thumbs up button to like it again, please

Had my first paper published and couldn’t even afford to buy the print copy of it. 😂 It is open access though.

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Xarchiv should have a feature to completely remove a paper by the authors (pronto). Even if they allow you to retract it, xarchiv still keeps the original up, so I don't see much point in retraction. Also allow retraction for any reason if the paper isn't highly cited. I've seen this with other papers that have vanished with only citations remaining, so why not xarchiv?

This is even funnier now that he's got that NEJM collaboration. Wonder if they pay him 🤔

love this bit. would just like to mention the news-worthy transition of the neuroimaging community from the journal "NeuroImage" to a new journal "Imaging Neuroscience".... as of late 2024 (now) it's looking like it really worked :-) baby steps