The Most Shocking moments from Daybell #2- Live from AZ

If Alex talked to his sister and became worried, very likely she mentioned sleeping in master bedroom. She wasn’t close enough to Stacy at that time to know what was going on. I don’t find Megan’s musings credible on Alex causing Stacy’s death. Stacy causing it is another thing

You guys are so much fun, nice. Thank you. I know it's a tragedy❤❤

Starts out great!!! Hiya Megan n Joe!!

Do Megan and Colby have a relationship?

Megan, I started watching Lori’s Crazy in the beginning. I watch a few Adam podcast with Uncle Rex. They said some unfavorable things in your direction, and then I had to find out for myself. Megan I truly believe you over anyone. I will forever be a fan Thank you for breaking everything down and the deep dives are fabulous. You would always be welcomed in my home and eat at my table ❤️

Megan, Have you ever watched The Behavior Panel, who are body language experts, analyze Lori? If you haven't, Please watch! They break her down perfectly! Girl, you are awesome along with Colby, Brandon and the rest of Y'all. I'm in Western NC and feel like I have gone thru this with your family! I think you are right about the Pro Se for the rest of her cases, she loves the attention. Sending Love and prayers Y'alls way

Greyish, green.

Treena is well educated, Lori does not know what education means!

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As far as the color of the Jeep.. Google "color perception in humans".
You will find that people actually perceive and name colors differently. Just like everything else in the human body, color receptors in the eye vary greatly from one person to another and are unique to the individual.
Interestingly, men and women in particular,will name colors vastly differently. This is partly physical as the amount of testosterone affects the sensitivity of color receptors. It is also cultural as women are generally more likely to have a bigger more nuanced vocabulary of colors...decorating, clothing etc.
Many colors are a mix of multiple tints....blue gray, green gray, brown gray.
Colors appear different in different intensity/color of light....daylight vs flourescent, shadow vs sunlight. If you look at the body cam of the scene, the Jeep would have been parked in in the shade as there is a tree there on the curb next to the white mini van.
The perceived color would also be dependent on whether the person was wearing tinted lens/ sunglasses and the tint of the windows of the vehicle that the viewer was looking through.
So many variables!
I was disappointed that Treena did not put an expert on the stand to explain color perception. It would have immediately settled the question of the color of the Jeep for the Jurors and destroyed one of Lori's few points that she kept harping on for acquittal.
The other evidence ( or lack of it) whether it was an actual bullet, the trajectory of the projectile, and the window glass were difficult to address thanks to the sloppy detective work by Gilbert police.

I would have also had an expert talk and demonstrate the construction of a Tesla roof/body frame/door/window as the witnesses struggled to explain where the bullet struck and why the damage occurred as it did. Also, the fact that the door does automatically open when placed in Park. Most people are totally unfamiliar with Teslas and their unusual construction and features. Too bad about it not having the multiple cameras of current models.
Also a videoed demonstration of the workings of the rear door, wheel and and window of the Jeep, and the interior with the back bench seat stalled and removed to show the area. I don't think even Treena understands the mechanics of the rear end of that vehicle.
Too much was left to jurors imagination.
The police could have easily done an approximate recreation of the scene by borrowing a Jeep of the same model and placing it on the curb and the Tesla in the street aligned with the glass fragment.
Of course, at the time they had no way of knowing the magnitude of the crimes being committed. Just like Chandler police in Charles murder/self defense shooting.
Good thing Idaho officers/ Hermosillo got involved. Otherwise, Lori would have walked.
Obviously, the case was easily proved as evidenced by the 15 minute verdict, but I would have wanted as much evidence as possible to insure a slam dunk GUILTY verdict!

Anyone notice that Lori used the "it's time to heal" language which Jodi Arias also used in her sentencing? Neither woman owned their own motives and neither woman would acknowledge the crushing impact to others. Always the victim, those two almost play out the same dramatic antics, from police interviews to conviction.

YES!!
Kay and Brandon ARE the reason these cases were solved, went to trail and convictions were made.
1000%

I suspect part of the reason you weren't invited to the "after verdict family gathering" Megan is because you deem yourself as judge, jury and executioner regarding Adams parents...I'm sure there were non-Mormons at the gathering including Kay and others!

This is so good, thanks both

I know that law enforcement has Alex's DNA because they used it to compare against samples taken from the Jeep and confirmed that he had been driving it from samples from steering wheel and seat belt buckle. Where did his blood sample come from? Was it obtained from hospital samples from the time he died?
I know he served time for Joe Ryan's tazer charges, but that was many years ago. In the past, samples entered into CODIS were not always taken from all convicted criminals as they are now. Were the profiles entered into CODIS? Or not since authorities were only concerned with this specific case. Would the profile be entered/ not entered since he was deceased and it might not make sense to enter it since he would be unable to commit further crimes?
This may sound like some crazy conspiracy theory, but I have a unique perspective since I am a commercial truck driver. Alex was also a long distance truck driver. Truck drivers have a unique opportunity to commit crimes nationwide and then just disappear as part of their jobs. They also have a sleeper berth where they could easily conceal violent or sexual acts. Many truck stops have prostitutes (lot lizards in trucker parlance) trolling truck parking lots offering sex for money.
I believe these women could easily disappear if they crossed paths with the wrong customer.
There is a national organization called Truckers Against Trafficking that posts flyers in all truck stops, particularly women's restroom stalls offering help to women in dangerous trafficking situations.
What really got me to thinking about this was when Adam said he was surprised that Alex had taken the week off when he was staying with Lori when Charles was murdered. Adam said Alex would normally have gone to Mexico?/ some Latin American country to " be with women".

Could Alex have been a serial criminal undetected because of his truck driver job?
Should his DNA profile be entered into CODIS in hopes of potentially solving cold cases?

We needed a rage room filled with exemplar taillights for the jurors to play in 🤭

Of course Alex was behind Staceys death. He was just as cold as ice as Lori is😢

We needed a rage room filled with exemplar taillights for the jurors to play in 🤭

Megan, Nate got hold of a document that Ian gave to the police/FBI, a list of concerns that Melani had. One of them was that Chad and Lori told Melani that Tylee and JJ were possessed and were zombies and that Alex might have to "take care" of them.

So glad I stumpled upon your podcasts!
I have learned so much. And yessss Kay is amazing!

On Nate's interview Part 2 of Melaneice, Melaneice says that Charles came over to her and Brandon's (before their split-up) and showed them a document about the kids being rated dark and also told them that Lori thought he wasn't Charles anymore, that he was Ned. Melaneice didn't give that any weight but concentrated on the idea (as she had been told) that Charles was cheating on Lori.

Green

Yes why did Loris Mom or Summer ever show up at any of the trials?

I was totally fascinated by what you both were saying Thank you. 🤩

Huh, so it would seem that from the time Stacey passed away Coxes were quite okay making money off someone's death-_-

I'd love for her to have a shaved head like the thumbnail 😂

All I know about Mormons is they turn up at my door once a year and I send them to the neighbour that is horrible to me by saying Oh, go to number 12,they’re really interested in your religion… 😮 I know, I’ll probably go to hell for it.. 🤷‍♀️ 😂 🇬🇧

???? Do you think perhaps other than money. With Lori disposing of huabamds (and needing them not to he alive anymore), could be also about the belief of being sealed forever with a husband , but having a living husband?

So much of what you say I'll Spartans to Scientology take a look.

God bless you for loving Stacy.,

About being rejected by dysfunctional people being a priviledge...
I'm reminded of one of my favorite concepts by MLK, on being maladjusted. Here's an excerpt from a speech given in 1966 at SMU:

"Modern psychology has a word that is probably used more than any other word in psychology. It is the word maladjusted. It is the ring and cry of modern child psychology and certainly we all want to avoid the maladjusted life. We all want to live a well-adjusted life in order to avoid the neurotic and schizophrenic personalities. But I must honestly say there are some things in our nation and the world to which I am proud to be maladjusted and wish all men of goodwill would be maladjusted until the good society is realized.

I never intend to adjust myself to segregation and discrimination. I never intend to become adjusted to a religious bigotry. I never intend to adjust myself to economic conditions that will take necessities from the many to give luxuries to the few, leaving millions of people smothering in an air-tight cage of poverty in the midst of an affluent society. I never intend to adjust myself to the madness of militarism and the self-defeating effects of physical violence. "

Do you think hot mic moment from Lori and her male advisory during the discussion when sentencing can be heard by the judge and prosecutor ? The male said I can’t be at the sentencing Lori replied so you don’t want to hear them all talk either ?

Hi Megan, I’m not a religious person, so I’m truly confused how people can believe the LDS spiel. It seems so much like L. Ron Hubbard. Totally made up. How do people reconcile the actual history of the LDS church with the idea that it’s true?

I wonder if Alex is the one that gave her too much or not enough, way back then.

Thinking back, can you think of any other deaths besides the ones we already know of, that Alex could be involved in?

Will she be in malani

I love this episode!

Would love to listen to a long conversation with you and Nat Eaton. Hope he reaches out to you.

Arizona should keep her so she has to deal in heat.

Thank God both of you got out of the Mormon cult!

Ruby's kids would be dead too if Russell hadn't escaped when he did.

I think she should have to listen to the victims at the end!

Beauty fades, EVIL is forever + 1 day!

Alex’s indiscretion with his dying sister’s credit card isn’t ‘Alex being Alex’. It’s Alex being like his whole mentally ill family. 😢

Where was Lori in this Stacy saga? Was she not visiting her dying sister!? Did she not live nearby?

I really enjoyed this. New to both of you. Really hearing your impromptu deep dive was exactly serving to answer all the questions I had. Thank you

God bless you Megan Connor

When is Melanie going to be charged

I just subscribed to your channel Jo! 😊

Such a fabulous prosecutor, I love how she laid it out step by step . I have watched this since the children were missing . My husband will say why are you watching all that , I tell him I wanted to be a detective when I was a child , I read all the Nancy Drew mysteries. Seriously I wanted to see her found guilty.she deserves worse. God bless your family , I can only imagine what your family has went through. Pat from Ohio.