E6 Moze vs E0 Topaz Showcase Comparison | Honkai Star Rail 2.5

so they both 0 cycle pretty much? well no point in picking and choosing then lmfao

So... Could I get Topaz or Topaz LC for Moze E6?

What is this abomination of a 2pc Duke - 2pc Speed set with Speed boots on Moze😱
I wanted to see the damage difference out of curiosity, I knew something was up with that Moze as soon as I saw his damage. But I didn't expect it to be this bad.

For anyone reading: 4pc Pioneer with ATK% boots. Preferably Duran for planar, but Salsotto is ok if you can't get Duran.
ATK% orb with Swordplay (although Lightning% is close, Swordplay just prefers ATK by a little).
Not whatever this was. Moze can use a little bit of speed (by that I mean a few substats), but he doesn't want you to build him for speed because he doesn't move much in the action order. You build him with offensive stats instead.

I mean I know this was a month ago, we all knew less back then on how to build him, and farming up a set can be tough... but come on, speed set with speed boots? D:

Me getting Topaz LC for Moze: Very interesting

海外の方でも日本語ボイスにしてるのはなんでだろう？声がいいのはめちゃくちゃ分かるんだけど自分の国の言語じゃないとなんて言ってるか分からなくないのかな💭

Where is the rappa gameplays?

E6 Moze the banner he comes out is not realistic. Anecdotally, I'm 90 pulls deep on Robin banner and I still don't even have E0. It's like Sara and Faruzan in Genshin. Getting them specifically to e6 is often enough wishes to get one or two eidolons on the feature. All this to say, my e12 Luka and Asta have decided that I'll be getting Topaz lol.

I was forced into this team because I can't pull topaz, I just need to start saving for sunday, but I did get E6 Moze with Feixiao so I guess this is going to be my FuA team, and from the looks of it, its not doing too bad.

Who's better?

Here after losing 50/50 to clara on robin banner but get E5 moze instead

Investing in victory.. means playing the long game!

as someone who pulled over 120 times on feixiao's banner and still didn't get moze, i guess i'll just have to wait for topaz to rerun...

Really wishing i won that 50/50 back in 1.4..

I mean, I don't see the point of having E0S0 Feixiao other than just for the character. Feixiao, to even compete with Mei and Firefly in ST dmg, needs to be E2S1, kinda just like Firefly and Acheron to utilize them in the fullest. And if you are going for E2S1 (which means about 350 pulls on average), each 20 pulls brings you 3 4* (on average), and each 4* has ~17% chance to be Moze, so it's almost guaranteed to E6 him at that point.

That said, I have both E6 Moze and E1S1 Topaz. Moze is at 96% CR, 190CD (leftovers from Acheron farming + Topaz LC), Topaz around 65ish% CR and 210CD. From my own experience, I prefer Moze for Feixiao (Fei, Aventurine, HM7 E6, Moze E6). E2 Fei just neglect Robin so you don't need any support, just FUA team. Numby FUA is too rare, just like Lightning Lord. March E2 gives you Guaranteed FUA after every "Shifu" basic/skill, so it's literally Fei skill > Fei Fua > March Fua > Fei Fua > Moze Fua > Fei Fua > Fei Ultimate > March Enhanced > Moze Fua > Fei Fua.

March and Moze team for E2S1 Fei is just FUA fest - they don't deal that much dmg (like 20-30k each in overworld), but they generate crazy amount of charges for Feixiao and that's the point, because she can just cast 2-3 ultis per cycle. In DU they delete any boss in 1 cycle, no matter difficulty.

As of right now i jave e3 moze and a e0s1 Topaz. But i have played with her so much already i switched to Moze now and gave him Topaz LC. For some reason he is more "fun"? Idk his animations are just too cool

If you have Topaz great. If you don’t get Robin E1 instead and grab an E2/E4 Moze whilst you’re at it. Ignore these Topaz glazers and Thank me later

time to skip Topaz again for the 3rd time...someone will say you dont like her?no i love her she is in my top 5 characters of star rail but my last 824 pulls are all 50/50 lost and all the characters got in 75/80 pulls...gladly i got Feixiao and robin at least (losing also here the 50/50) and e6 moze,so with only 30 pulls left i will save and go for aventurine(i need a sustainer/shielder) and wait for topaz to get a rerun again...since hoyo hates me

Topaz or Moze? Nah, I have both so I'll use them based on the enemy weakness

the 50% vulnerability from topaz is no joke

whats the song name at the start?

it’s an abuse poor bosses

Still insane to me how they haven’t given Robin the mute button Holy-

I have no robin, So why not put them both since e2 moze and e0 topaz is basically 1 Harmony buff combined while also buffing themselves

And feixuao's ult is considered as a FuA so-

Topaz’s animations are horribly annoying, even if Moze cleared 2 cycles slower, I would still go for him. His look amazing.

Why u deleted midfly and bootking videos?

Moze vs topaz ....no
Robin is op.... yes

whats the song name that plays in the beginning? :O

I remember notion that Moze is actually much better than Topaz and only reason why she perfomed better was because boss had fire weakness and not lightning one. Now it's opposite and result is same.

Don't get me wrong I don't have Topaz and I don't plan pull for her. Moze is more than enough, but it was getting ridiculous.

Moze & Topaz ❌
Jinwoo & Hae-In ✅

I have topaz since day 1. She's so useless for ratio since she's e0s0. I wonder if i should get her lc or just pull for moze and his eidolons.

Topaz team gets about one more attack between combos. Its also worth mentioning that topaz team is far more comfortable with sp. But while Topaz team is more comfortable to use, under optimal play, the Moze team can perform just at the same level (maybe slightly worse, but not significantly).

And lets say you get Moze to E6. Instead of trying to get Topaz next banner for the premium Feixiao team, I would recommend getting Robin to E1 instead as that would be a truly significant improvement to the team. Far greater than changing Moze for Topaz.

Since Robin song is universally English. Does that imply that she’s actually speaking English in game since this game is originally Chinese based.

Topaz has a lot more potential and is better in PF and AS.

The real carry is Robin herself 💪🏻💪🏻

It's a funny discussion since realistically E6 Moze isn't cheaper than Topaz at all, and Topaz is still both stronger, SP efficient and with potential for growth, while Moze is stuck at that point, unable to get any stronger

As a march 7th player, I choose march

what name is introduction

Wow. Our general is so cool 🔥

Mmmm, so i have a team if Dr. Ratio, Aventurine snd Robin. Who i should get, Topaz, Moze e6 or Feixiao??

I love Feixiao, but got no Robin or Topaz, make me feel uncertain about her dmg...😭

i can gladly flex i donwloaded the game on seeing topaz trailer and i got her at 1.4

Im def gonna use Topaz since she is my fav character and also increases Feixiao‘s ult by 50% since it counts as an follow up attack

i wish moze was free cuz i dont want to risk getting characters i dont want for him (since his cons make him sm better)

I have Robin and Aventurine already and have been waiting for another topaz rerun to finish the ratio team, but at this point I think I’ll just pull for Feixiao and see if I can get her and Moze

Idc about topaz tbh I want moze cuz hot man

My beloved pazto, potaz... whatever her name is

I hate those Topaz simps. They are so annoying and they want tried to flopping the one of my favorite character at all. They literally don’t know how the bad when she was.But also I gonna pull her LC for my Moze tho🙃

Conclusion: get robin

bro trying showcase so hard that he forgor about weakness ressistance and Moze Speed Boots lol

name of music in the start?