Path of Exile should be friendlier to new players.

i am a new player loving the game but yes not being able to respect your character sucks

I started playing this like last weekend. Now I'm almost done with the campaign part and I'm seeing my character is basically unplayable because I didn't throw all of my skill points into pumping one attack to the max and I don't have much currency left because I was using it to try to keep my character geared well enough to not get instakilled.

I ended up just making a new character because that one is ruined with no way to recover it. I wish there was a way to respec your character for first time players so I'm not forced to make a new one.

My first time playing was this league! Watched your videos for about a month in “preparation”. What I ran into on my way to level 88

1. Act One is INSANELY HARD for me. The movement required and reaction time required is much harder than any of the maps I got into.

2. The game tells me nothing. Ziz videos taught me everything.

3. Without a guide for builds the game in absolutely unplayable for me. I rely entirely on Ziz for my entire gameplay experience. Which to me says the company doesn’t care because someone else can do it.

4. BOTS. BOTS. BOTS. Lol

The first thing that annoyed me in 2012 and isn't fixed in 2022 is :
- player names are global, you have to choose a globally uniq name.. especially terrible considering accounts get never wiped

Really? They have time to implement obscure endgame and league mechnics that 99% of all players never engage with, but for a trivial tag + name system they have no time?

act 1 is hard as fuck. it's so punishing and so unfair.

Long time watcher, I have always loved your videos & used them, but as i progressed further in the game & took breaks, i realised the "guides" already expect some level of knowledge towards them. Understanding exactly what a "prefix and suffix" is, also understanding what increased multiplier actually means toward your damage per second, critical hit chance, so many little things that have a name & a meaning, which get brushed by as just "oh yes make sure you take this crit damage"

What’s this about 3rd party tools? I’m new I just started playing 6 days ago I’m currently lvl 24-25 on act 2 if I had to guess probably 1/3 of the way through. I play solo and I’m highly familiar with arpg and Diablo clones. Info on those tools would be greatly appreciated. I play on pc if that matters

I think a lot of us older players know the answer of most newer players, we just don't like it. "Simplify the tree."

I don't think it's that simple-

As a compromise what I would recommend is to somehow make survivability a more obvious path? Maybe build life or energy shield into travel nodes? That is not even likely the solution, for the same reason we don't like the "simplify" answer. The fact is that some fights aren't winnable- some people may not be able to cope with the fact their fire guy can't kill a fire immune..

I'm an old casual. I play on console, these days. I've been playing and boomeranging since PoE released, though. I never have endless wealth or anything, but I understand the system well enough that my Searing Bond/Lightning Warp totem start always enable me to play what I want each league.

The hardest part that I had to wrap my head around was that you kind of use the tree and gear in harmony to cover what you don't have. Need more damage? Find on tree of you don't have gear options, but if you've been building only damage on tree, you need to focus on survivability for gear.

Secondly, it's SUPER tempting to DO TOO MUCH. You can't be a summoner, that beats things in melee, and casts fire ball novas, while running RF, totems, traps, and CI.

Emphasize that unique items do not necessarily equal power, emphasize importance of focusing your character specialty and survivability.

Perhaps you could start the Ascension process earlier to gain more direction with how you want to build?

Anyhow, I love PoE. It saved ARPGs.

I tried playing poe on playstation with no pc access, only my phone and ps4. let me tell you....
no one wants to play this game like that. you might get a build going through the campaigns, but then get stone walled, and you have little to know idea why or how you went wrong.without 3rd party tools, it seems like every step of the "experience" is just a feeling of you dont belong here. thats not a good gaming experience.

POE needs a creative mode. The player opens a creative session where they have access to all the skill points possible, all of the base game uniques, and the ability to craft rares for free. Once done with the design, players then have access to different areas with higher levels of difficulty to test their build. But these areas do not give XP or any kind of loot.

it would be great if ggg implement some ways for new player to learn the game. All my friends play other games. I give a shit on all these uberuberuuuuubersuperduper bosses. I want to play with my friends. Sometimes i play poe on xbox, there u can see how many players, in%, have reach something....and i forget the correct number, but about 10% have reach act2. 10% or 13 or so...so over 80% quit the game before act 2....i think, thats not good....but i also think ggg give a shit for new players and we will see a uberuberuberuberuberuber-elder, a Mageblood for 10 flasks from the inventory, a headhunter that can kill monster and other items for the Top 1% that cost 1000 exalts before we will see i free respec-char ,something like that in startard, until lvl 70 or reach maps or whatever. sry for my bad english...hf

If you don't like poe bc its hard for you to understand or figure out then you should probably play something else. the game is great the way it is. i love that it doesnt hold my hand and that i have to grind for hours (or days) for the gear i want.

They could just take another page out of the diablo 2 playbook - make a couple quests give a full reset and what you get is what you got. If your build fails you get a few chances to fix it and if not that's okay there's always next opportunity. Would give more players trial and error experiences without forcing them to start over.

Also - people don't enjoy being forced into having their hand held. It's not a fun experience and everyones favorite builds / play styles getting nerfed into oblivion and forcing people to go back to the drawing board is counter intuitive to the experience the game was intended to deliver. Leave the builds alone, let people play how they want without punishing them for it.

Too many mechanics to keep track of - the skill tree is complex by itself but then trying to understand skill gems that have four effects or a paragraph worth of information on each one its pretty much sensory overload - bigtime. Also problematic adding many new skills to the game after nerfing a lot of them seems extremely counterintuitive and paranoia-inducing, worrying about whether or not your choices areworthwhile and if you are wasting your time bothering or not.

In short, two important mantras:

(1) less is more
(2) Liberty

it should be 1 free respect after beating act 10 kitava. that would solve all the issues.

Yea it should. I downloaded it. Didn't have a clue how things work. Deleted it, bought bdiablo 3 again whilst a wait for d4

Just to be clear, I wouldn't be playing this game if not for your, and few other creator's videos. All of you bring GG ridiculous amount of money and I complete agree, there should be some pointers for new players to get into guides and 3rd party tools easily. Problem is, it doesn't make "good first impression" (as if being overwhelmed early on is, but I digress) or show competence, and chinese really care about "impressions" - doesn't have to work, doesn't have to mean anything, but they just need to make themselves appear good. Might be slightly far-fetched, but PoE slowly starts to smell like tofu-dreg project to me, though I really hope to be wrong on this one.

Thank you for the video Ziz.

I just started playing PoE about 2-3 weeks ago and decided I'd just go through the game without any assistance from level guides and stuff. After getting into act lV the difficulty curve spiked hard for me. talking to some players they identified my weapons were wrong and my passive tree was messed up. They told me it'd be better to start a new character at this point and to follow a guide so I don't make the same mistake. That's so discouraging to hear that I need to 'start' over just because I didn't know.

I feel like having the option to respec at any point should be allowed when you're a low level.

Its the 3rd day since I started playing this game and I have Alt-F4 several times and quit 4 times not because I find it difficult but because of the lack of instructions in the game. Im still in the first Act and completed several missions and the "Equip Filament in the Sentinel" quest is still pending with no way of knowing where and how to get that filament thing. Out of all the rpg games I have played like Diablo 1, 2, 3, Titan Quest, Grim Dawn(all time Favorite) etc POE has little to no tutorials for a game being around since 2013-14 I was expecting a little more for new players.

I see , thank you for saving the Hussle for me
Im not ganna play the game ever

Just make regrets more common. if you are able to drop like 100 regrets per campaign you would be fine with respeccing and experiment with builds and skills

im annoyed by how unwilling some veteran players are to give advice to newer players, especially if its in global chat. Unless its super basic questions like “how many acts are there” or “how long until i reach maps”, ive encountered many players who rip into you for minor things.

When i was still having trouble getting into maps, i would ask for some advice, and a lot of the long time players just told me to start over with a new character after DAYS of getting past the acts. Or finding a piece of gear that i thought would help with my build, putting it in the chat and asking if it would work for my build, and i would just get “trash” “no crit multiplier, trash” “not even added movement speed, so automatically trash”.

Even recently, i FINALLY beat the searing exach, the furthest ive ever gotten in the game, and decided to celebrate my victory in the chat, the majority of the comments were “was it even uber?” “Now do uber” “so?” “Aight now do uber elder” no congrats, no well done, just “now do better”. Its a bit demoralizing that some of these long time players make every thing i do in the game never good enough by their standards.

You should be able to 'build' whatever you want and not get punished for it early on. If you want to push hella far endgame with min-maxed gear and perfect spells so be it, but it makes it unfun to not be able to try things out

Let us see the combat log so we know how we died 😂

Hey, i come and go from PoE. Ultimately what keeps me from sticking around has nothing to do with difficulty, but its the lack of polish and overall unprofessional feel to the game. How old is this game and they STILL dont have the ability to customize your loot filter in-game? This is just one of MANY minor gripes that far out weigh any positives this game may have.

More guides i litteraly cant find any guide for how to get maps how to get heist bounties how to get gear rerolls etc

For me it's 100% the endless amount of mechanics from past leagues. It's just way too much. I would prefer the game having 2 or 3 of them at a time. Like in the maps you counter a different league mechanic every 5 seconds. How on earth is anyone who's not familiar with them ever going to learn them without getting completely overwhelmed.

Hey I just started my first ever league, I reached lvl 70 and I’m starting the maps, and for me atm the worst thing to understand is all the crafting and gear knowledge, it is extremely unfriendly for new players to understand how the gear works in Poe, even with a full guide there is so much things you can apply + the rng that you start feeling like a crazy scientist trying to solve the impossible equation of dark matter xD.

Just give us a free full tree respec after killing Kitava at Act 10. Boom. Problem solved.

But its not.

As a new player, I do not find color matching "fun". It doesn't make me feel powerful. Gear in POE feels boring to a Diablo player. I tried to play to kill time but prefer Diablo or even Torchlight on hard.

Over 4k hours in the game already and I am still bad at this game.😂😮

I’m a new player. Started about two weeks prior to crucible launch. This game isn’t hard for new players. It’s outright hostile towards them. I don’t have access to PoB I play on ps4 with no pc or laptop available. So automatically that means I’m at a massive disadvantage. After my first toon got brickwalled in white maps I decided to try and follow an arc MoM/agnostic elementalist build. A month into the build and the toon gets one shot from damn near everything in red maps. Second toon in a row that I wasted time on because absolutely nothing is explained in game, and because this game requires you to build your toon in very specific ways to be able to see all the content. You either stack auras or spell suppression and evasion or you die over and over and over again. And don’t even get me started in the shit drop rates and mind numbingly stupid rare mobs that are stronger than some pinnacle bosses. I don’t even know what to do anymore. This game is apparently not for me.

The game is for diehard gamers.
For casual players (mainly for Standard) with limited time we don't have a voice.
I like your point about respec - I would even like to spend real money currency (a small amount) to get a respec like when there is a new league and every character get a respec. When I replay every now and then I want to try the new builds and then if I go wrong when following a guide or don't like playing it, I don't want to then give up and wait for the next league to get my respec. I was to spend a minimal currency point or have some other option to respec.

Regret should reset the whole talent tree before level 50, I say as a new player who actively refuses to listen to the most commonly given advice of "look at a build guide" not out of pride or anything just either way you shoot yourself in the foot and I'd rather play around and have fun and need to grind a bit to fix my situation than remove the learning experience but frankly speaking theres no reason that the game should actively discourage new players from toying around with their build.

For me respecs are a problem since i usually like to experiment and not just follow a guide.
What i dislike also there is to much stuff ealy on. What i mean is there are like 20 different league mechanics and its overwelming since i cant just learn one by one.
It would be great to be able to disable all league stuff and then add them one by one back.

Also what i find frustrating that the last time i played i needed the get specific defens skills witch my class could not get there for i needed to level an other char just to get the right skills. Idk if its still like that

I have 800 hours and its not friendly to me also, it might even be worse for me, new players gets to enjoy story and seems like there its not limit in how much can you play this game, but in reality it its, gets repetitive for average player since end game its unreachable for most, map mods are another dream, game became in the way over complicated and optimized forward no life players that have best gear

The game is NOT friendly even to old players. I cant be 50% of time in various wall of texts and guides just to level up... then how this, how that . I got tired of this that is why i never play nowdays. I hope POE2 solve all this

For people saying this game is not hard then your a liar and a fool. Im a gamer, just an average gamer and I heard about poe and had just installed it, played it until about act 4...here I started to notice it getting ridiculous. I keep on dying to a boss and reviving and once I re enter the dungeon almost immediately I die. Basically I did just that until finally beating the boss. I was waiting for the time where this game was gonna start to become fun for me to play and it just never came... Still I tried to give it a shot, died hundreds of times to Act 6 and the ridiculousness just keeps piling on...I kept asking myself where was the fun part for me to enjoy the game? It's more of a torture myself to win kind of gameplay. Finally I ended up quitting and accepted that this is not for me..(by the way i played and finished all dark souls games including blood bourne, that game is more of a skill check game and poe is NOT that) I'm sorry if you hardcore veteran players of Poe don't agree with my assessment of this game but it's the honest to goodness truth..

Is POE too Difficult For New Players? As a new player yes absolutely. I highly enjoyed my act 1 to 10 play very much. So much so that I bought a bunch of stash tabs. Then to find out that the way I progress in this is not really by monster drops anymore after hitting maps. What do I mean by that? While yes monsters and doing maps with drop you items to progress your character its not intuitive or fun after hitting maps. Why? Because now I no longer get my best drops my random drops that are gloves,boots,body armor ect ect. While yes they drop decent base gear and upgrade materials. Its no longer "ooooh snap this is a great piece of gear". Now its "emmmm yeah this has decent base stats now let me go through 100+ upgrade materials and sit in the crafting bench to make this piece of gear viable". In the end game of this ARPG I just dont feel any satisfaction from drops at all. I love looters like Borderlands,Diablo 2,Destiny 2(until it turned to trash) because I got good drops and thats it! I didnt have to go through 50 spreadsheets and videos on how to make my gear good. I just got an OP weapon or gear and I go about my day and have fun. This game is making me work too hard and go through too many hoops to get to the fun. I honestly just run lower tier maps cuz I really get tired of getting wiped cuz my gear sucks. This game isnt hard mechanically its hard because your gear sucks and thats just not fun.

Respecting should just be free. There's nothing skillful about bricking a character or grinding regret orbs. The crafting system damn near needs to be scrapped and just have good gear come from drops. You need a friggin 4 year degree to craft in this game. They need to remove like 75% of all currency and give the ones that are left more utility. Ect ecr

The difficulty is never an issue... The unrewarding feel and punishments all the time are...

I gave this game 3 hours. The amount of shit I have to learn just to be able to play effeciently is insane.

Coming from somebody who loves RPG games: fuck this game, the gameplay isn't even worth the damn effort. The gameplay itself is dogshit. Slash at something (shadow) until I unlocked my 2nd ability, which was to slash at something while having a green tint to my attack??? Fucking boring.

I found myself releatedly dying, while my toon had no abilities and couldn't even equip most weapons that mobs dropped. It just wasn't fun at all. Not once did I feel exhilerated.

Also I'm playing on the xb1 and the graphics were from 1995?!?!

👎 lol

Yep, as a newb, I thought I could just jump in and play. I made a few characters. Then found out I wasted countless hours making builds that could never be "viable". I thought the entire point of the skill tree was diversity of builds, but there are only a handful of strong end-game builds, so why make a giant skill tree to begin with.

Game is unplayable for new players .
U need to visit 300 x town to sell items during day because u need loot filter like a idiot , because the loot is so trash and boring

Here's how they fix the game.

Remove the need to fully max out resistances, it shouldn't be so binary when making a custom build.

Always allow a full respec, without question whenever they want.

Give the player the opportunity to recover lost exp on death by going back to the place of death.

Put Loot Filters IN THE GAME. Not a third party website, IN THE GAME.

What do you think is stopping PoE from being easier to try out?
Let us know 👇