Trangia Stove Bio Ethanol VS Methylated Spirit

Thank you for the video. Would you please do a follow-up video on why anyone would want to use an alcohol stove?

I had good results with the Bio Fuel. It burns hotter than Heet. I do alot of dry baking. So for me Heet works better. Its Cheaper also.

It's less about burn time and more about btu surely?

Yes
A Soot Test would be good

Burn time unimportant, time to boil a kettle is the important one! Meths might last longer but if the bio heats faster?? Sorry. your test proves nothing!

Your arm is alwzyss blocking the main show, the alcohol mini stove

adding 10percent of water to bioethanol would even things up?

Not Trangia stoves……title is misleading……

Actually very informative. If you want to just boil water as fast as possible, then go for bio-ethanol. If you want to actually cook and have control over the heat and cook time, methys. If boiling water 3 mins faster is important to you I suggest you forget camping and get a hotel room with a cheap mini-kettle.

What’s the cost of bio ethanol compared to methylated spirits, and which one boils water the quickest ?

I used to add a tiny drop of water to methylated spirits while doing my silver D.O.E Award. It made it so you could see the flame..

Is it possible to use pure isopropyl alcohol too? It has similar properties, and it is highly flammable like pure ethyl alcohol.

Very interesting test. I always wondered what the point of the holes are on these? The section with the holes is separate from where the fuel is. Can anybody explain to this novice? Thanks!

Wonder what kind of denaturating agent is used in different countries. Because I don't find a lot of difference. But here the ordinary denaturated ethanol isn't colored either. Both burns very clean but the ordinary denaturated stuff is much cheaper. One liter in the grochery store is still cheaper per liter than buying bioethanol by the bulk (33 liters etc.)

A soot and smell test would also be helpful.

Are the stoves the hijacked deigns made in China? They really are tops in unscrupulous design theft. You're right, those dodgy windshields are about as useful as chocolate fireguards.
The Bio, in my opinion, is too fierce.
I think I'll stick to Meths. Far too much flame to lick around the pot and get wasted with the Bio. I rather like the calmer flame and the odour from the Meths as it takes me back to boiling a brew on the Empire Stove in the beach hut 60y+yrs ago when I was a kid.
Thanks for the video - it was good to see the comparison.

By the way, I would say that the more stable flame of the Meths makes it quite possible - with care and in the proper stove set-up - to cook in the porch. I'd never do that with Bio.

Aren't you supposed to add 10% water to the bio fuel too?

You really needed to test the fuels under working conditions = boiling same quantity of water in the same pot on the same stand with the same burner and a WINDSHIELD.

I also have a fire felt pad to stop the ground from sucking the heat out of the burner.

All you were doing was burning fuel with no idea of the heat output of either.

Haha.30jears ago bike trip in denmark. No way to find Spiritus. They call it rødsprit.

another Trangia user, Iv got my original stove from early 80s, so its good to go wind tests but think it would be more useful to time boiling water, and same setup with no wind, Iv tried Bio fuel and must admit I’ve gone back to Meths it works better all round, bio is quicker I find but uses more fuel.

please don't call it a Trangia test when not using Trangias

I dont know about mixing.
But you can use methelated spirit, white spirit, parafin, bio ethenol in these stoves as they are alchol based fuels.

Denatured alcohol is all I burn. Works great. Stores forever.

Interesting video. I haven't tried bio ethanol in any of my Trangia stoves and based on your test, don't think I'll bother. I too water my meths down with 10% water and find it calms the burn down a bit. I find neat meths to be a bit wild. This is also supposed to reduce sooting on cooking pots although I'm not so sure it makes much difference. Incidentally, I have tried diluting meths with 20% water and found it takes way too long to bloom and in cold weather, struggles to fully bloom at all. 10% seems to be the optimum I think. Keep up the videos and thanks for sharing.

That was as exciting as watching paint dry

"Bio" is just the source. Ethanol is ethanol. Unless they've added something more energy dense for the 10% that's not ethanol, methylated spirits will not produce more heat. It will be just the same joules over the longer burn time. Fewer joules over longer time if it's added water and not a volatile.
So you should think about what you're cooking. If you're just boiling water, use the straight alcohol and use the methylated spirits for simmering or frying.
Best to carry in straight alcohol and water it down a bit as needed.
Energy density per gram carried and volume taken up is the most sensible choice.

Meth.

I've done boil tests and I found them to be pretty similar. Bio ethanol much cleaner, so I use that.

Im on meths

I've watched this, and I'm a bit puzzled. Bio Ethanol is ethanol, and methylated spirits is ethanol with a small amount of denaturing agent to make it unpleasant to drink. Essentially, they are exactly the same. Knowing this, surely the difference in performance (smaller flame, longer burn time) should be attributed to the addition of 10% water to the methylated spirits?

Due to the recent cold weather I tried using one of those small candles under the trangia to warm it up. I have a trangia 27 so have the space underneath. It gets the meths warm very quickly and it blooms almost immediately.

Thanks for the video. It's always interesting to see how different fuels fare.

Both fuels will absorb water from the atmosphere and may already have . Isopropyl alcohol also works well (37%and 91% ) but produce alot more soot on the pans and a much more yellow flame . 151 rum works too .

Great video mate but I bought the bioethanol and there was a lot less soot. Keep up the great work!!!

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Would be better if you did it from the other side so we can see you do with you getting in the way. Der.

Those aren't Trangia Stoves.

Does the comparison match in cooking tests in tastings/flavors?

Bioethanol - hot, faster cooking, quickly gone.
Meths - cooler burn, slower cooking, lasts longer but the 2 balance out really.

I reckon you could mix the two.
I remember a helicopter made an emergency landing for fuel at a petrol station. The pilot mixed half petrol and diesel and flew off.
I have been using the old primus with diesel.
It runs slightly cooler than parrafin but is much cheaper

I know some people will say im picking nits but those look like Trangia lookalikes not the real thing. They have different bloom holes than the real Trangia. Trangia and knock-offs have different burn times also.

Here in the US we have Denatured Alcohol it's your (Mentholated Spirits)

Why would you even do this test without some kind of wind guard??? Makes zero sense..

Just to settle the argument definitively they both produce the same amount of energy for a given volume. 21.1 MJ/L

So, from this experiment, we see that bioethanol burns twice as fast as the methyl hydrate. However, is not the more important experiment to find out if the bioethanol will bring a certain amount of water to boil? Perhaps the bioethanol burns twice as fast but does it do the job in half the time? Some here has said that the methyl hydrate is the fuel to be taking on a hike or a camp because it burns longer but again, does it boil water just as fast how much methyl hydrate does it take to boil 1 L of water and how much bioethanol does it take to boil 1 L of water.

This is the first video I’ve watched on this channel so I do not know whether this experiment has already been done or not. If not, I look forward to seeing this experiment done on this channel.

Price of meths is double?!

Why some people think it’s a good idea to add water to your alcohol is totally beyond me!!

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