Why wasn't this DRAGON included in Fizban's Book? - Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Song Dragon

Why wasn't this DRAGON included in Fizban's Book? - Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Song Dragon

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@ngozibridgeman2384
@ngozibridgeman2384 - 29.04.2023 02:32

KOBOLD kingdom lead by a song dragon is at war with another kingdom run by a necromancer wanting a draco lich and someone hires the party to deal with this

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@Avigorus
@Avigorus - 15.05.2023 09:52

Daaammnnn antimagic and silence? That's just adding insult to injury for a mage killer effect...

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@andy10121984
@andy10121984 - 26.05.2023 20:47

My party is never able to put it together. They make great plans then charge in like murder hobos.

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@MrOwl4456
@MrOwl4456 - 29.05.2023 17:46

I kinda like the idea of someone having song dragon blood. Would be great if it was a bard

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@milesmatheson1142
@milesmatheson1142 - 06.06.2023 12:36

Song dragon needs sonic attacks and other audible-based spells

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@torazely
@torazely - 14.06.2023 22:42

Alright, the moment you said they were all female as humans, I had an idea.

Song dragons are not a wide reaching creature, but are in fact one family line blessed with a draconic form. A female ancestor of the family was given this form to help protect her village, and ever since, all females born into the family are gifted with this form too.

However, here's where things get interesting. What happens when one of the children are trans?

Imagine a transmasc family member being essentially the first male in the family with a dragon form. Or alternatively, NOT getting one and not understanding why at first before they figure out who they are.

On the other side, imagine a closeted transfem getting a dragon form and having to make a choice: does she try and hide it until she's ready to come out, or does she reveal herself as she is, and hope her family accepts her?

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@Ninjabread01
@Ninjabread01 - 18.06.2023 11:41

The Song Dragon real estate scam is brilliant.
It puts me in mind if a full blown Scooby Doo mystery, complete with a reverse unmasking when the party reveals the scam artist as a dragon. They transform in anger, bellowing
"and I would've gotten away with it, too... IF IT WEREN'T FOR YOU MEDDLING ADVENTURERS"
Roll initiative

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@DCJMS
@DCJMS - 13.07.2023 17:01

something that won't leave my mind for years now is to run a shadow war between Dopplegangers & Song Dragons

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@scottmefford6917
@scottmefford6917 - 18.07.2023 23:00

To me, the Song Dragon seems like the perfect Bard NPC or DMPC.

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@serse8455
@serse8455 - 24.07.2023 12:44

Wheren't all dragon able to "shapeshift" to some extent?

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@segevstormlord3713
@segevstormlord3713 - 18.08.2023 05:37

It's not that Truesight is bad, but 15 ft is pretty tiny. And most dragons have Blindsight, which also detects invisible things and sees through illusions, usually.

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@segevstormlord3713
@segevstormlord3713 - 18.08.2023 06:22

There is a novel series where, partway through it, some of the characters realize that every dragon they know of or have even heard of is male. Later on, it turns out that krakens are the female of the species. It might be interesting if all Song Dragons are female, and the male of the species has a human male form, and some other mythical creature as its other form.

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@princessmaly
@princessmaly - 23.08.2023 04:53

I've always assumed they were billon dragons, that is, crossbreeds between silver and copper dragons, given their appearance and predisposition for shape shifting into maidens. The fact that there's also an electrum and orium dragon says to me that there ought to be a silver/copper breed as well.

They're 100% not werecreatures, they're dragons, pureblooded, born and raised, from the outset, and there's absolutely no question about that. If a weredragon bites you, you do not become a weredragon, it's not a disease, it's not a curse, they're just dragons.

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@supersteve8464
@supersteve8464 - 26.08.2023 04:36

"hey bro are you a song dragon?" "No I just have ADHD" 😂

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@ramba9816
@ramba9816 - 29.08.2023 21:52

With all the DK music he uses, I won't be shocked to learn he plays DK in all his campaigns

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@echorome6260
@echorome6260 - 03.09.2023 12:01

The combination of immune to non magical weapons and antimagic field is interesting, but it could also mean that whole classes of PCs don't get to have fun that night...

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@Inhaledcorn
@Inhaledcorn - 03.09.2023 16:19

Never related so hard to a monster. I also love just singing kinda absentmindedly. I often sing the songs that are playing on the radio while at work, and I have been known to hum the songs that are playing during boss fights in my raid group.

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@hircenedaelen
@hircenedaelen - 06.09.2023 20:07

Not just left out, decanonised!

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@LazyNVersions
@LazyNVersions - 17.09.2023 05:01

Modern era npc idea with the song dragon (especially for school settings):

A Band/Choir director who is a song dragon.

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@kobold_sushi_executive_chef
@kobold_sushi_executive_chef - 19.09.2023 15:41

Would be cool if the Bladesong was gifted to the elves by a song dragon thousands of years ago

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@jamesscheurich6006
@jamesscheurich6006 - 20.09.2023 06:29

I was thinking how a Drake Warden could in someway connect with a Song Dragon too.

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@pyronation111
@pyronation111 - 25.09.2023 11:23

Dont mind this rant I know lotr dragons weren't "good" but this totally explains Tom Bombadil and why he sings. 😂

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@Yippers1266
@Yippers1266 - 26.09.2023 06:09

I feel like a dragon or creature that stays in human form most of the time should have some sort of disadvantage in its other form.

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@JaKorsarz
@JaKorsarz - 27.09.2023 01:23

gynethropy - when dragon can turn only into women 🤣

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@kira68200
@kira68200 - 06.10.2023 00:27

a dumb questions, are theyr considered as metallic dragons ? will definitly use at least one in my games, but just dump the "only female human form"

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@chandlerstastny8092
@chandlerstastny8092 - 17.10.2023 18:36

You need to do Greater Drakes!!! Please!

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@seanpeacock4290
@seanpeacock4290 - 01.11.2023 01:09

every shop keeper in the village is a song dragon, but they all think they are the only one. Enter murderhobo and friends...

Also they are part of a choir of a church to a god that no one has ever heard of because it is the name of some child's pet that died centuries ago and the dragons think it's funny. Some actual deity might be offended or the pet is now a lesser deity because of the worship (you worship it with scratches and belly rubs).

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@Jace_ScribeofPalara
@Jace_ScribeofPalara - 11.11.2023 06:40

Capping off a video about song dragons with one of the best pieces of video game music in history. Beautiful

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@elchjol2777
@elchjol2777 - 25.11.2023 09:37

Ah Dragons,one funny thing I like to explore with dragons is what if one day they took mortal form only to find somthing about their shapeshifting broke and they are now stuck in this less powerful form. I play a 'Kobold' Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer (Gold) that was a young gold dragon that got cursed into his current body when he carelessly took an abandoned dragonslayer's castle as a lair. He didn't listen to his Dragonborn paladin friend and now they got to find a way to undo this unusually powerful curse. Said dragonborn paladin being played by a friend of mine. I find it funny that the rest of the party is only just now catching on to the fact that something is up with the gold-scaled kobold that knows way to much about dragons and that its odd that dragonborn seems to differ to/follow the lead of the kobold instead of the other way around. Oh and the Kobold's name is very similar to the dragon both supposedly work on behalf of.

Its been four sessions,and we even snuck though a few dragon cult groups. Because no dragon cultist ever seems to take notice of one extra kobold (even with gold scales) and no kobold is going to question the authority of one that seems to be draconicly blessed with magic. Managed to capture a red dragon egg after an ambush on some cultists, I was their 'guide' though some heavily patroled mountain passes, but that left the party with quite the moral dilemma. Is it justified to take a sentient life before it gets a chance live? Well if it wasn't for my pal the pally, that egg would have been splattered. The rest if the party was split but the Dragonborn paladin had noticed the morality slide my dragon-turned-kobold was taking. Some examples, A dragon that was truthful to a fault was now concerningly good at deception especially for malicious purposes. He also dressed more like a decently well off traveler or possibly a rouge as he wore well fitting travel clothes rather than robes and carried one dagger (and one concealed one) instead of a staff. Another form of deception. He also was becoming more vicious towards enemies and a sarcastic jerk to everyone that wasn't ether his dragonborn friend or some influencal person the party was trying in the good books of. That shocked Zas / Zaslortraz the dragon-turned-kobold into a "What they hell am I doing?" moment and also sparing the egg....and very nearly blowing Zas's cover...but oh boy is the party suspicions now.

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@QuiteNephilim612
@QuiteNephilim612 - 01.12.2023 23:31

Maybe they're a guard of an anti-magic society. Definitely one hell of mage killer.

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@jessikawhite1354
@jessikawhite1354 - 02.12.2023 00:58

Anyone have suggestions for a player playing as a song dragon?

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@FilmAcolyteReturns
@FilmAcolyteReturns - 09.01.2024 03:46

Song Dragons are originally from Forgotten Realms. As Wotc has chosen to do little to nothing with FR this edition it doesn’t surprise me that they weren’t included.

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@thecrazyastrogirl
@thecrazyastrogirl - 03.02.2024 02:42

When the Bard IS the dragon:

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@Theology.101
@Theology.101 - 05.02.2024 01:37

I think they ditched Song Dragons just cause all of the adult and ancient dragons can polymorph themselves. For the narrative bit of “small weak woman is actually powerful monster” you can use any of the other more versatile dragons, or a Song dragon. But the Song dragon’s got one gimmick

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@braendyn
@braendyn - 26.02.2024 04:23

So they're Drag Queens innately. Like I love that they're so commited to the bit but yeah...if you don't use Song Dragons as Drag culture in your campaign...I mean It's Dragons doing human Drag as actual Drag Queens and being genuine Divas about it the entire time. My theory is that Male Song Dragons just tuck.

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@namelesssomebody2557
@namelesssomebody2557 - 26.02.2024 07:38

Weredragons

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@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 - 28.02.2024 15:18

We need more crossdressing dragons.

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@lordgiblets7585
@lordgiblets7585 - 03.04.2024 04:19

I've been planning on somehow incorporating a song dragon into a 5e campaign. I'm glad you've already done the work of converting it to 5e!

EDIT: I can probably take a young copper dragon mini and paint it silver with hints of blue to represent the song dragon's draconic form, unless there's already such a mini available.

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@maxspecs
@maxspecs - 03.04.2024 06:00

“Immune to nonmagic”
“Can create anti-magic zones”
Oooh that sounds kind of busted.

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@Xitixcix
@Xitixcix - 01.05.2024 00:46

Thx!🎉

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@gilbertjmarquez
@gilbertjmarquez - 06.05.2024 10:11

What’s the name of the outro music?

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@Mk-ly9re
@Mk-ly9re - 16.05.2024 01:28

So I am running a Wild West campaign and at one of the saloons my party frequents the saloon’s main singer is a song dragon. She used her love of music to make a career

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@whirledpeaz5758
@whirledpeaz5758 - 20.05.2024 04:32

Like the Visage form of dragons in WoW.

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@sharlharmakhis280
@sharlharmakhis280 - 25.05.2024 21:45

The one time I added a song dragon to a game, I threw out the 'even the men turn into women' rule because.... yeah there's a lot of reasons that's dumb in my dysphoria-having opinion. Chandriss' human form was a pretty man, yes, but very much a man.

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@CrowofJudgement461
@CrowofJudgement461 - 08.06.2024 03:36

“Song dragons just love music”
Bard players “my time has come”

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@5stringking
@5stringking - 13.08.2024 06:00

A " where" dragon isnt there.

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@thundererodinson1668
@thundererodinson1668 - 07.11.2024 20:16

Maybe bcz of the siren lore and the fact women usually have better singing voices I would ass-umee. Loolz

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@thundererodinson1668
@thundererodinson1668 - 07.11.2024 20:17

Bro do Saurial in a video plz!

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@DungeonDad
@DungeonDad - 02.12.2021 22:04

Thanks for watching erryone! LEt me know what you wanna see next week~

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