The "Safest" Way to Use Steroids | Joe Jeffery

My question would be what to take when your goal is just to loose Fat (fast).(The general stuff like diet,caloric deficit yadda yadda yes i know) Or are there only hunger suppression ones?

Junkie 😂😂 FUCK drugs , if you need drugs your weak , MENTALLY and physically , suckass

He looks like a meth addict

Why do people take testosterone instead of taking estradiol and more of their DHT derivative? Intuitively it seems like it could be good to separate out the estrogen dial from the androgen dial in case the optimal setting for both of them doesn't line up. Are men just offended by the prospect of taking estrogen, or are there reasons why getting it through aromatization is better?

Why does this British physique coach look like a meth head? Also doesn't all the black out ink cover up the gains? Very strange looking guy...

Mike, happy to chat re: my renal transplant. I'm one of the originals from the 2000-2003 Venice crew: We are/were part of the same Kidney Club - Tom Prince RIP, Ken (Flex) Wheeler, myself & it was NOT gear. Dunno if you'd be interested to here who, how, why etc. Dialysis to transplant & beyond.

Day 4 of requesting Dr Mike review Dom Mazzetti of Brosciencelife

This might be the only guest who made Mike behave the whole time.

Ohio here 👐

WOW Mike Israetel admitting that Victor Black is the guy who invented the Safer Use model since Victor taught Jeffery when Jeffery was a music teacher. The truth is finally coming out!

I think people just need to look at the compounds with the most scientific evidence and are the most well tolerated. Nandrolone, primobolan and testosterone can do all the things you need to get your dream physique and if you understand the pharmacology you can leverage these compounds in a way where your mental is on point, make crazy gains and the organ stress is minimal. When you see all these bodybuilders dying we are talking 500+ mgs of multiple compounds. The reality is if you do a sports trt dose with 250mg of nandrolone you’re going to be strong as fuck and make impressive gains without the crazy bad side effects. Always go for the more refined compounds that have been used in medicine.

There is no such thing as the safest way to take gear because I know people who have taken the same things and have reacted very differently to the compounds.

Bro said Hyper🏆

I like people who sound like this bloke

I live in The Nerherlands. I dont have a creditcard. Please make other pay options possible??

Don't have 1 hr 45 min just cut the foreplay and tell me the "safer" doses. 😂

Could you do a video for us type 1 diabetics? I’m 18, T1D, and overweight. Glory to Christ I’ve lost 15kg and made 6kg muscle since December, but I find it hard to navigate blood sugar around my workouts. God bless

dude just make his arms black with ink lol what a joke

What is larora? I can't seem to find the correct spelling and CC is worthless. Thanks

I love Joe. He's a genuinely really good guy and I've had the pleasure to talk to him a couple of times. Also been heavily influenced by him in my own coaching practices

I have been building a formula.... that was for health... it creates a stat figure.. based on physical values... and a modifier if your competing against someone. the poitn of me making this was s othere isn't bad matchups and peopel get injured... I need.. data to createa chart to make a constant for allwoing people to clacuate certain thigns withotu a dexa scan... but I need peopel willing to share their displacement volume, or volume ... and their actual height... then a profile and front/or back picture. not tight clothing but jsut body fitting... this owuld allow peopel to measure important figure with jsut a scale and measuring tape.. i am pretty close figuring this out, but need real world data, for creating a constant.. .that aside my CWi and FCR formula.. are really accurate.. not for gambling but using histoprical data... it did predict 88% of who would win a fight and 92% wit hFCR.. data... the poitn for me was health, but some werid side effects was predicting who would win in a fight fairly accurately... the other cool thing is cwi diminsihes over time so young MT would kicked old Mike tysons ass... even if your not a fighter persay, you all peopel can use a CWi stat line as it has bneefits.. tested on a iamginary 1400 poound person and its cwi was 183... so it scales well and other funyn things was a12 year old matched against an adult and cwi was 400 and the fighter was like 1400... so.. it seems to do matchs up fairly well... I thought it would be more complicated... so trying ot make somethign super simple, that invovles a tape measure and scale, only that can give you very detailed orietnated information in how to engage with life in ahealthy way for a living assessment... hmm anyways... was thinking of joe rogan but I dont' think he would contact back.. jsut if anyone is interested in some guessing... the point is to reduce lethal or bad matchups that cause injury... uses physics only... friedn adn my dad als osaid add luck or morale.. I said thts tupid its math and physics only its priciple is super simple... and straight forward... no bullshit.. but meh now I sound like stupid peopel I ate trying to scam me.. I am serisouly looking for data to help me with this... if not its jsut a naother ranting vent lloking post.. probalby put it in a book that will nto be sold but it will be out there... bes thting is, it gives a stat line over life that you can guage... outside of illness and go up and down from that.. concept is using ubiquitous items, that exist scale and tape measure. Some known constants...

Using PEDs is pretty gay, and im only gay on the weekends

Mast and Primo is mostly used as an AI to control E2 that's it.....most people only need T to get huge and if it isnt enough than Roids arent for you genetic wise

Ashwagandha is great for drinking. Take a good Ashwagandha extract (Sensoril or KSM66) an hour before drinking and you will require less alcohol to get a buzz, and the buzz will be nicer. Maybe not good if you have a drinking problem, but great for getting more enjoyment from fewer drinks if you prefer to drink moderately.

Wow. I’ve heard this guys name on this channel and elsewhere but never listened to him. What a font of knowledge. Amazing grasp of the details, relationships etc. And he seems very humble with it. Great guest.

I just came here to ask mike to take the dwarf max 💊 pill.
Trying to get lean and shaving thy beard is a huge mistake.

you should do an episode on alternative combat sports

BOOOORING

Great chat! Joe is brilliant

I am 33 years old now. I started lifting when I was 14 and I was the only guy @ that age in the whole gym. I never saw one person my age @ the gym until I got in my 20s.
Teenagers back then did sports (soccer, running, athletics) but no one cared about muscles. I just got into it because I was fat, stiff and slow and no sport seemed to work for me.
Even the really big juice heads (and enhanced more of them back at this time) told me tо stay away from steroids. I even knew the local roid dealer because he lifted in my gym as well and I was the “baby” of the whole gym community. For no money in the world he would have sold me testosterone or anything else before I would turn 21. Even when I asked him about it when I was in my early twеnties, he declined and told me not to ruin my youth.
It is crazy how much things changed in the last 20 yeаrs.

More TRT Dad content please. I bet I speak for a lot of dudes that have no interest in taking 2 grams a week of AASs due to health consequences, but want to utilize some of these tools without materially jeopardizing safety.

The only issue i had with the whole talk was the comment about all the "meth" being prescribed. Methamphetamine is a specific amphetamine. Desoxyn is prescription methamphetamine. Adderall is a mix of other amphetamines which are notably NOT methamphetamine.

No steroids are safe. Be a man, work for the physique God gave you, not a synthetic one..

Wow, thank you for this video.
This was honestly the best and most useful discussion on pharmacology I’ve ever seen. I say that because as someone who has a lot of personal experience with many of these pharmaceuticals and illicit substances it was such a breath of fresh air to get 2 highly educated and knowledgeable guys talk about the science and anecdotals of this shit. Soo hard trying to find any experts who want to touch these kind of topics without fear mongering.
Roids, biohacking, black market drugs, this had it all. Definitely going to look at metaformin(been meaning to for a while) and try ashwaganda again (I cannot touch any kind of gaba drug ever again).

What about SGLT2 inhibitors to help prevent remodeling/thickening of the left ventricle and reduce future risk of heart failure? Also slightly lowers blood pressure and has a myriad of other potential health benefits.

You can do blood work and blood pressure.
But you can't measure your heart tissue state or your blood vessel state. Your kinda kidding yourself if you use the word " safe " if you assume blood wirk etc is gonna tell you how your doing. But i do love PEDs !

Victor Black was not invited cause he is boring…

Can you make a vid talking about how to get bigger and muscle if you are more on the slender side ive been working out for a wile now and am seeing results but not enough like i shuld have

You can tell how many comments were made before watching even 5 minutes of the video. One of the very first things they say is that there is no safe use, only the safest use. Everyone in the world knows that there is risk and that there are possible downsides and that 99% of people shouldn't be on them, but why would we not educate ourselves on how they work and how they're best tolerated for optimal use and risk mitigation?

That’s great content! Would love more content about this subject.

If safety is the priority then one would never do more than a replacement dose of test & never do tren at all.

Absolutely fascinating and extraordinarily insightful conversation, would love a few more branch off discussions with Joe on stuff like the OTC supplements, the neural optimisation/ mood regulation and much more. I'm a lifetime natural, but I find this stuff so interesting haha, probably the tism...

Oh man, Chester Rockwell is a name I haven't heard in AGES

I'd love a whole video/podcast on "Dad TRT"

Something that caught my ear. He said the LD50 for insulin was like 3 pens. I'd like to know more. As a type 1 diabetic just a few units too much will put me into a seriously uncomfortable hypo over time. Glucagon never happened for me, unless he's saying it only works if you actually pass out. It sounds sus as fuck to me..

This was cool

Sounds like Victor black stuff being regurgitated.

No amount of juice will make you put down the fork. You place last in every competition. You have no abs. You don't need surgery.