Synology How To: Setting Up Remote Hyper Backup, No Cloud Necessary

Keep up the great work

If you had used the Tailscale address for the first phase instead of the local IP address, would that backup session have been routed over the internet and back in to the destination NAS that was at the same location for the first phase? Or is the router smart enough to understand that device is local even though you may have used the Tailscale address?

I set up something similar recently after picking up a used DS418 as a remote backup unit. Pretty smooth to set up for the most part and gives me that peace of mind of having a remote backup. Not sure if this was covered already but when would you pick "Snapshot Replication" vs. "Hyper Backup"?

Great video.

My next gen TV tuner from adth arrived today I will post a video this weekend.

Another great video Lon. I’ve been doing this exact thing about a year now. I have two local NAS’s, one main and another backup where I do a local Hyper Backup. Then I have another NAS at my daughter’s house with two Storage Pools, one for my remote backup of my main NAS and the other for my daughter to store data for housing my NAS. Then I figured why not, I the did a remote Hyper Backup of her Storage Pool to my backup NAS at my house. This has been an excellent two way solution and for me a 3-2-1 backup strategy! All thanks to Tailscale! 👍🏻👍🏻

Will your mom be able to backup her data to your NAS in her home and the ones in your home?

I also use Hyper Backup to remotely backup both NASses to each other for a few years now. Works like a charm! One's at work the other one's at home. I have a site-to-site VPN over which the backups run. I recently changed to weekly backups instead of daily.

Question can i setup tailscale to access my synology from my cellphone like if i need to get a document. ?

I wish i had the money for a 2nd Synology NAS. It sooo user friendly and endless posibilities!!! Love mine. Thanks for showing this, these videos are the best info!

Are there any companies that will host a remote Synology NAS?

So let me see if I understand this. Tailscale allows you to connect your machines between each other but it's not a 'VPN' like a 'classical' VPN (ExpressVPN, NordVPN, and others). My normal browsing and internet traffic goes through the ISP but if I want to get to the NAS, or any other servers, with Tailscale I can do that? I've had my Synology NAS plugged in to the internet for a while now and I have few ports open. Among the many steps I've taken to keep it safe has been blocking all traffic from outside the country I live in. Nothing has knocked on its door.

The other question would be if you can use the Synology mobile apps with Tailscale. This is critical to me. Because if this does work, I will consider going the Tailscale route and closing those ports up.

If you know what hard ware device that’s being used, then it’s not a cloud service.

It’s a plain old internet service.

One alternative you can also do is backup to a USB drive and then take it to the remote synology and plug it in and re-join the task. The benefit is that if you ever need to restore bulk data, you can bring back just the external drive back your place instead of the entire synology box. This of course assumes you don't care about redudnancy. However, in my case, I have a backup to a local external drive, the cloud, and the remote drive taking place at the same exact time, so it doesn't really matter if one of them dies. I love hyper backup. I also recommend doing backup verification every few weeks to ensure no bit rot took place with those external drives, since they are not in any redundant array. How you approach this is up to the use case. Synology is amazing.

Good Job... can this remote backup be done using Synology Drive? and have you done video on that?

I do this now. And use Tailscale now to make it even easier. 🙂

Nice tutorial very clear...

1 crucial steps you missed. it took me several hours to figure out.
-When you create a 'backups' user, you need to add it to group of administrators otherwise it will be inaccessible from the source NAS

TIP: if you performed the backup using another user and planning to change to newly created 'backup' user, you need to go to destination NAS, click the .hbk file and change the owner to 'backup' user. Otherwise you will not be able to start hyperbackup from the source. error: 'only the owner of this backup task is allowed'

Hmm got strange problem
When i use quickconnect id transfer is locked on 120kb/s
When i use tailscale it lock out at 1,2mb/s
Hard to do any serious backup with those speeds,
Someone get to issue like this?

Very interesting. I am wondering if this is gonna work without Tailscale? Or with another VPN service? (I use NORDVPN)

Extremely helpful video. In my use case, my father has a DS120 at his house and I have a DS124 as the remote backup unit. Both units have identical Seagate 8TB IronWolf HDDs. Only one issue is that my father has a fiber connection that is 100Mbps down and only 20Mbps up. I have a gigabit fiber connection speed downstream, but my upstream bandwidth is limited to 50Mbps; would this mean than remote backups could potentially be much slower if the upstream speed is 20Mbps?

better tell how to backup on a remote PC

Thank you so much!! I've stumbled upon the tailscale outbound connection problem, without you I would not have been able to get this going so quickly!

I am picking this up half way through, I'd already done the first bit - backup on my LAN, perhaps stupidly i just expected this functionality to be part of quick connect as synology do advise it as a first party solution... only to find that when I plugged my backup NAS in at my parents house everything was offline. Tried to put in quickconnect ID, no go - so set up tailscale - i was already using it for lightroom shares on my laptop anyway.... linked the new backup NAS to my original via google account. Added the tast to task manager and restarted the NAS (both).

No luck - tailscale IP still returns offline. I am not sure why or how to fix. Any idea - perhaps a port forwarding issue somewhere but I am a bit rusty on that side of things. Not really done port forwarding since direct IP to IP Gaming 15 or 20 years ago!

Great video! Thank you.

Is outbound TUN connection only required on the server sending the back up to the remote device? Or does it need to be on both?

Thanks Lon, you saved me almost my entire life of work. 🙏

Does anyone know how to delete an existing hyper backup on the Synology? I don't seem to see an option to delete an existing backup. Thanks.

how do you know what the tailscale IP is

Great video. I know my stuff pretty well and this video was no fluff just facts. Thank you sir.

You did not cover the firewall rules which I cannot get the backup setup?

Which Talescale plan are you using? Can you provide more details on Talescale?

‼️Wow! It was so easy I gave up half way through 🙃

Trank you, your clear explanation made easy to follow this tutorial. The only problem I had to resolve was to allow popup windows in my browser for my Synolgy NAS. This was needed when creating a new Hyper Backup task and connecting to the backup target.

Hi Lon! Very useful as usual, but a complete recovery video would be amazing. Lets say your main nas gets stolen or destroyed, the process of full recovery in such a case seems to be a bit of a niche

LOL You don't have to hide Tailscale IP, it's not a public IP