DCS World DESPERATELY Needs This Missing Feature!

Hey guys! I believe that an Automatic Air to Air Refueling System in DCS World built with realism and immersion in mind would be Win-Win-Win for Beginners, DCS Veterans and the members of our community that are working through physical disabilities or challenges!

Just saying for WWll would like to have a command for refuel & rearm-

My home cockpit goes as such : ⌨️🖱️

One feature, which is missing is probably the compatibility with IP v6. My internet provider is not offering fullstack for IP v4. So, it is not possible for me to host multi player missions. I suppose this will become a problem for more and more people.

Sounds good to me. let everyone have a choice

Agree, I spent a lot of time trying to AR consistently. It affects many missions I'd like to participate in. It is such a perishable skill, fun to do but a unnecessary restriction when trying to participate in missions.

I’ve played DCS for nearly 10 years and have never been able to AAR. I’ve completely given up on trying anymore which prevents me from playing many missions. Yes bring on automatic AAR.

Thanks Spud! What a great idea! I play DCS for a while now and I've never done AAR :( no matter the time, practice, patience - it's like mission impossible for me! We have in DCS plenty help options eg. auto start-up and shutdown, unlimited fuel and ammo, unit tags, so why we can't have supported AAR? And in my opinion users who can do AAR shouldn't have any objections as they can simply do it as they do it today. I'm sure many of DCS fans would be very happy to have automatic AAR! I only hope ED will see and listen to this.

There needs to be a countdown timer from AI to pilot just a simple 3.2.1

Totally agree! But ED is not willed to do this (for whatever reason)

While you are telling here about inclusivity (I'm all the way in this team btw), I'm really missing realistic physics of the basket and the basket line. In reality it can significantly damage the aircraft when you fly inappropriately.

I would be happy with a gate system or lighting system to assist.

And open the dang sighting window on the tanker! The automatic refueling is a great idea too. 😂

VERYY GOOD TUTORIAL VIDEO THANKS SPUDKNOCKER

Yes yes! Auto refuel would help my immersion because I struggle with it, so I have to build missions without that refueling.

I agree, ED can make a check box to enable the feature so "purists" won't have a cow over that, but one thing is - if they are disabled, then what is it that they cannot do the refueling the right way?
If it's physical, then how do they do everything else? That is what needs to be tackled. If it's mental, then join the crowd, lol!

I totally Agree with this idea this is going to help a lot people get back to bigger scenarios in DCS its going to be more fun too

I don't have the skill or need it.
Don't dumb DCS down.

I'm having an off day, I don't have time to play a full mission.
I suck at landing, bombing or air to air engagements.
Can I press SPACE to auto win the mission?

100% needed... so many missions or campaigns people are not able to do because they require aar... would be a great addon

Very good idea!

DON'T NEED IT, YOU HAVE UNLIMITED FUEL OPTION.

Dude, I 100% agree with everything you said on this. Having flown real airplanes, going into a simulator, you really do miss the feel of the aircraft with everything, landings, flying formation, etc. I've only flown Cessna 172s and never in formation, but you are so right about the precision needed and the depth perception and the aircraft feel when tanking. I've only been able to hit the basket once in an F-14, after 3 or 4 weeks of trying, and even then, I was only able to stay connected for about 5 seconds.

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I know diehards will not want to change things when it comes to AAR, but for those that have tried and keep on trying, unsuccessfully, to refuel in the air some form of automated option should be allowed for. Even if it is an option in the game settings that can be switched on or off. I have tried for as long as I've had DCS, which is a few years now, to successfully link up to refuel. Whether it is my controller (Warthog HOTAS) or me not being precise enough I can not get the aircraft to refuel in the air. This makes long missions nigh on impossible for me to accomplish, not unless I have a friendly base near or a forward refuelling point on the ground. PLEASE ED can we have some form of automated AAR for those that have real trouble perfecting this part of DCS

Hey spuds rag's here, this would definitely help, especially being a DD214 hon. I have no feeling in my left shoulder to my left hand. It's all muscle memory and sometimes I have to look down at my f-18 TB for very small throttle corrections which makes it almost impossible. I can get it in the zone. It's just getting in the basket. It's so difficult especially when they throw severe weather aspects where the yaw of the aircraft is almost up to 7° to stay in it or to get close to it it with rudder control. The disabilities I have really compound the issue of trying to refuel. I believe that would be a fair and proper form of refueling. Noting we're not flying, the real aircraft were in a DCS world and depending on which multi-server, you're on what they want to do with the weather. Which compounds that as well. Ty for this video. Hopefully they'll take notice

It will be very useful for everyone really appreciated

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Next up- Auto dogfight, auto ground attack, and auto landing for all aircraft. Seriously, AAR isn't that hard just takes practice.

That's a very good point, this feature would help noobs plus anyone with a disability that struggles. I am able bodied and struggle to AAR the Harrier, it's a tricky beast to take to the basket for a drink believe me!

It’s been discussed a lot and ED has stated many times they have no interest in adding this. The majority of the players (in a forum poll) are against it as well. I think people who have put the practice into this feel like it would just invalidate the skill they’ve worked to acquire. Why stop with automatic refueling? How about automatic landing or aiming? Many players simply aren’t willing to put in the practice to learn this. That despite actually having many many hours in the game. They just haven’t chosen to put those hours into practicing AAR. There are people who can AAR with gamepads and keyboards too, and expensive HOTAS isn’t required. You make a very good point about ergonomics, but that’s easily solved. Having this as a mission option would mean it likely gets disabled in multiplayer anyways. For single player there’s always the option to just select unlimited fuel. If a server owner wants to be inclusive for a specific group or session they could always enable (local) unlimited fuel for the players and let them choose. That’s the easiest workaround and requires no changes to the game.

No downside to this, so I say give people the option.

I can agree with automatic AAR, so long as mission makers can control if/when/how it is used.

I do think it would be more important to prioritize core tanker AI improvements, such making them more environmentally aware and removing some core engine blockers (such as MPRS being unable to use its boom).

We need the wish list to be DCS forum so that ED (included their developers) can look this request up. Thanks.

I'd love to have auto AAR in DCS. I tried so many times to AAR & i find it impossible to do.

Nah, what DCS needs is:

1: the mouse staying inside the damn window
2: enemies not locking you up and setting off your RWR from 300nm away
3: APKWS on the Viper.

Honestly I find when setting up my controls for a module I start with just what I need to get airborne and immediately hit the tanker. All of my curvature are set based off of what it takes to refuel the bird and I learn the handling of it from that curvature. I also see people shun turning your curvature up higher when doing say. Honestly it's pretty stupid to me. You should set your jet up FOR You, so even if your curvature is up in the 60s, it's fine. For example, my main jet (15E) is set for 57 on the X and Y axis, and I'm able to fly inbetween the tails of the flight lead, even with turbulent air. We're all different, so set your stuff up for what works for you. Hope this helps ❤

AAR was such a pain for me to learn and it was such a huge reward to get it done in the hornet. Now, I enjoy AAR and my favorite jet to AAR is the F16. All the challenges you mention I definitely felt. I would love to see this feature to get more people access to do longer missions. Not only do I agree with helping disabled veterans, but would also like to consider people that are using entry level gear that might be as accurate that makes AAR a challenge due to fighting the hardware. Also, when it comes to multiplayer DCS and the amount of desync that you face when you are trying to AAR this system would be safer.

Brilliant idea

Spud, brilliant! I am a physically disabled pilot. Automated Refueling would be a God's send for me. That is the one area in DCS that so frustrating for me. Thumb's Up to you!

yes, we dont have any propioception for location and movement in DCS. wich makes it harder and eyesight dependind, i think you have logic to your favor with this automatic refueling stuff, ty for always think on those of us who dont have the skills for this or those who are phisicaly challenged, ty for being in clusive and for making this kind of content.

100% support this

No doubt this would be a game changer! Great idea and hopefully someone will see this and make it so!

Young me would've agreed with the purists, but the retired veteran me with dual radial neuropathy wholeheartedly agrees with you. It's so bad that I drop small lightweight things all the time unless I'm really intentionally gripping it hard. A bitch when doing something like cooking or flying. I can refuel and land on a carrier most of the time but it's much harder for me than most. Thanks Spud, and please do this ED!

An auto AAR option is fine with me. Let it run while I make more tea. ☕

That is a great idea Spud!

Awesome Spud, I love the idea

What a lame title for a video. Shove it up yours. Unsubscribed

I totally agree with you. It is particularly more difficult to refuel in flight with Boom aircraft (F-16, F-15, A-10,...) from my point of view, and it is often a pain. It would be nice to have this new feature in DCS 👍👍

I’m for such a solution. As presented and optional could only result in more missions being played by more players with no real loss to the game itself, on the contrary