Charlie Kirk Deleted This Debate With a Vegan

Genesis 1:29 was before the fall. We didn't eat meat before death existed

I can’t believe people think Charlie is smart… to not know about things is one thing, but to claim something is unhealthy because you can’t pronounce the ingredients is beyond silly. It’s a really really stupid appeal to nature.

What a world we live in…

I only request Vegans to not support any corporates to make lab based products and increase consumption to develop more health risks..pl stand against big corporates..

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I really hate to say this but at this point expecting compassion and logic from the MAGA crowd is almost fruitless

So if charlie is "prolife" then by extension he should be vegan.
So if this is what conservatism has become, then it won't last for a long time.

Inconsistency in "Life is Life":
Pro-lifers who often say "life is life," yet they may not extend that same value to animals, as evidenced by their consumption of meat. This highlights a fundamental inconsistency in their reasoning.
Potential and Sentience:
Pro-lifers might argue that human fetuses have potential and are sentient, while animals do not. This is where the inconsistency becomes clearer. Studies have shown that some animals, like pigs, have cognitive abilities comparable to young children, suggesting that their life may not be as easily dismissed as the pro-life argument suggests.

So let me see if I understand correctly- one of your fellow humans unpublished something, and you decided it was better to put it back up and use it to condemn him ... but you want us to believe you care about animals? Interesting.

That's really disappointing that he deleted it. I actually saved it because I was gonna watch it later. I will just watch this one. It's sad to see he would delete this even if it made him look bad. To me that's dishonest behavior

Wow that was horrible. Charlie Kirk is ofc an amalgamation of hatred, stupidity and nepotism, but seeing him use 2018 style arguments, that have have long since been debunked, was very funny.

They also deleted a video of him debating an older man on his campus thing a few days ago where all the comments were negative towards Charlie's take

“You would agree animals are not humans” … well all animals are not humans but all humans are animals

At first i liked Charlie,i liked how he debated.
But eventually i noticed he is just a very cruel individual

any person that has to say 'um' a lot is a moron. he says he gets 200g of protein a day, but then doesnt say how he gets all of it. veganism is stupid. kirk didnt lose this debate. he probably deleted it because this was stupid. stewardship and dominion dont mean the same thing.

So eggs and milk have NO purpose?

Who is this guy that is debating him? I want to
Follow him.

Charlie is just a coward. Bad faith in his arguments and conversation style. He clearly doesn't care about the subject at all and just wants to move on.

When Charlie says that eating one impossible burger sometimes is worse than eating a meat diet that's just disingenuous. The guy eats 100 times healthier 95% of the time and if anything goes to Charlie's level of unhealthy the other 5% of the time.

People don't know anything about a healthy vegan diet they only know soy and impossible fake meat crap. Fruits and veggies are abundant, beans lentils, breads. I mean it's just a terrible argument and besides, the whole vegan argument is mostly centered on not hurting animals needlessly.

So its clearly less harmful to the animals and its actually much healthier if done properly

This is so insane to me. As a conservative i’m not a fan of Charlie Kirk.

Imagine cheering for the idea of abusing animals. Disgusting.

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Wow. The crowd are disturbing. A wonderful saying going around is acidic people can not hear alkaline thoughts. Death eaters, flesh eaters which are necrovores not carnivores are sick, acidic. Meat eaters are cruel.

Just because people's lifestyles are different, doesn't mean they have to be ugly to each other. Charlie's interruptions are rude and childish. Very emotionally immature, especially in this video.

LOL they still go back to the bible, how sad.

To eat vegan or meat, is simply a choice. We are so fortunate to have these choices in life. It's freedom.

interesting video. im on both sides.

I'll start by defending his laugh. i don't think Charlie was trying to be funny about the cheesesteak. I think he laughed because he was being honest about eating meat that night and felt uncomfortable asking him the moral issue. I think Charlie gave a fair amount of time to hear out both sides as well. however....

As a strong bible believer, I think God really supports veganism. Isaiah 11 speaks of a time in which the lion shall eat straw like the ox. I think this very well may be literal, which fits the peace in Revelation 21-22. Isaiah also speaks of a time coming when lamb sacrifice is similar to breaking a dog's neck.

This could be a much deeper discussion. A good summary of my view can be found in Romans 14, that God gave a faith to each person, that anything not from faith is sin. I think the food laws supported certain animals like cow as healthier to eat than pig. Pig is very difficult to raise in a way that is safe to eat. I love the idea of veganism, or at least vegetarianism.

LOL dude started bringing up facts and sounding smart and Kirk immediately changed the micro topic every single time. Complete and utter loss

Props to the Vegan guy who is also a conservative. Veganism needs to rise above the human-centric Left vs Right arguments.. Liberals and conservatives will never agree on many things, but Vegans on both sides should put being Vegan and saving animals' lives above the humancentric liberal/conservative debates.

Literally the worst time to be seeing this video as I’m chomping on ground beef 😂
And as far as the fruits and stuff god made it’s just sad bc it’s extremely hard to get real fruit with seeds and etc from islands bc everywhere else especially in the us is all gmo fruits

it's sensunt.

Steaks taste good!

Through the consumption of meat, people have had their soul and conscience removed. This is why they mock people with a soul

I only wish the vegan questioning Charlie Kirk had been you, David Ramms. He got quite a few things wrong, agreeing about the fish, not mentioning legumes as protein, agreeing humans were "superior" to animals, etc. TBH I kinda flinched at some of his answers.

Don't really give a crap. Thought this might be something interesting, it's not.I watch charlie for his political commentary, not his moral or religious views. And as long as we're not eating humans, i don't give a crap what ppl eat.

Also, charlie probably was going to eat a steak that night, it wasn't a joke. Everyone has the right to make their own choice of what they eat, leave meat eaters alone.

Pretending that the Bible is worth taking seriously as a source of ethics or even facts, is where this whole conversation collapses.

Wow, I hugely respect this young man for standing up when the entire crowd is jeering. I honestly don’t understand why Christians aren’t on the forefront of veganism rather than most of them being against it. Meat eating might be allowed in the Bible, but so was slavery and polygamy. That doesn’t mean it was God’s original intention. But my own personal theory is that the reason so many Christians hate vegans is because they consider themselves to be the group with the inside scoop on morality, direct from God, so when somebody comes along with a position that they deep down know is more ethical, it violates their monopoly on morality, and they just can’t allow that to happen. Like I say, just my theory.

Charlie can't actually be respectful. It's not in his nature, especially, when morality in this context is challenged.

I dont see why he would delete this

I think they should make debate class a requirement in schools. A lot of people dont understand how to debate and how to behave. You don't insult the other person. If you start to insult the other person. You just lose the debate. Imo.

Well Kirk definitely lost this one. I'm not vegan, and not gonna attempt saying that it's morally better to eat meat given how majority of animals are treated, to best state of out knowledge animals are more sentient than plants, and feel pain more like we do.
I try to eat more plant based food simply because it's easier to keep yourself healthy this way, if less animals get hurt in the process, that's good. But going full vegan would be rather hard for me, and I guess a lot of people who all have their problems.

Generally eating vegan is at least to me a whole lot more work in preparation, and balancing your diet properly. You can call it laziness, and to an extend it probably is, I can call it lack of time, and I'm probably also somewhat right.

I'm glad that a lot of people are vegans and strive to make a world a better place, not going to criticise you for doing something good.

I personally find it hard to go vegan, I don't have time for prep I don't have a lot of knowledge that would help me eat vegan or time to get that knowledge, also psychically I just feel good when consuming meat, not that I don't like vegan dishes I like them very much but if I'm missing meat, something is not right.

Man I just feel like I'm bad person, I'm white male, which makes me already bad by default, and I'm also eating meat which I guess makes me even worse, and if you find out that adding to all that I'm also damn fat? I'm dealing with a lot of personal shit, and society that looks like it hates me at least in the internet. Guess I just have to accept I'm a human garbage and live with it

Disclaimer: i dont have a horse in this race.

Im not a vegan. But i believe we all have the right to govern our lives. This and debates about religion and other similar topics are inherently pointless. Debate can foster greater understanding or cause further reflection and revision of your beliefs.

I say this bc Charlies argument is thin. But so us the other guy's. We are talking about a lifestyle difference. I can't neutrally judge others on this topic just as they cannot judge me objectively. Condemning one over the other based on their own beliefs is just a dangerous mindset

All the master debaters crumble and fall when veganism enters the room. Vegan:1 Charlie:0. NEXT

It does seem very strange to be a vegan conservative

In historical perspective we eat meat nowadays more than ever. Before meat was special food and people ate (rich people not included) once a week or only on special holidays (depens on the location)

What Kirk said in this video is absolutely right !!! Don’t expect vegans to get it

In my opinion, you won't get anywhere arguing about nutrition, or demonizing meat consumption or animal products in general. Humans are as natural as any other animal, and it is natural to consume a variety of sources of sustenance. The debate should be kept squarely on animal cruelty. No reasonable person WANTS animal cruelty. Reduce or remove large scale animal cruelty first. Happy cows, pigs, and chickens can be ethically slaughtered for human consumption, while also given the utmost respect. This will result in a greatly reduced amount of cheap meat in the markets. This will naturally result in less meat being eaten by the populace. The next generation of humans will be used to eating less meat. They will tackle more and more subtle components of animal cruelty. The meat industry will naturally dwindle.

The factory farm argument, the solution for that is to just buy local meat from healthy/happy raised animals.. With veganism the nutrition just is not there and there's a lot of things from plants that our bodies can't/struggle to digest. Also, growing plants on a large scale damages the environment too. Most veganism arguments are easily debunkable, but I'm open to hearing some that are not..

Even though the vegan man is gorgeous inside and out, appealing emapthy to a psychopath will just make him angry. He has no understanding of empathy

Vegan the worst