Top 10 Units That Aged Like Osmanthus Wine in Genshin Impact

Good list but Mona is a quite coping, sry. Her only value is as a showcase character. But even that has become invalidated with Furina and now definitely with Xilo.
She got worse with time if anything.

Emilie and even Jean were never bad. So shouldnt had made the list. Other than that, good list!

Now do this but a very strong units; that they we're too strong at the start; then got powercrept, and being not-great units for now. Like Childe, Venti, etc

You know, Neuvilette actually wasn't that op on his release...

Cyno definitely belongs. Because despite the fact that he was having a quit strong team in 3.1; which’s Beidou aggrvate. But after Furina; he got way way stronger. Yes he suffers a bit; with multi waves; with his premium team; which: “Cyno, Baizuh, Nahida, and Furina,” but he’s still very strong. He and my Arlecchino carries me on Abyss. He was also able to kill the three Magu Kinkis in the event; quite easily.

This is pretty fucking unorganized.

Zhongli should be on the list.





Because Othmanthus Win-

In terms of falling off, I can only honestly think of the Kamisato siblings. Both Ayaka and Ayato just aren't good picks anymore and on release they were at least T1. Basically every other character is still good or never was in the first place

I beg to differ, but Yae and Keqing should be ranked higher. Keqing pre-aggravate sucked. Keqing post-dendro had a higher skill floor before Yaoyao came out, and even before Baizhu came out. Then Xilonen helped Keqing tremendously, especially in ST, allowing comfortably slotting in Nahida as the dendro teammate.

Yae also was a sidegrade to Fischl on release. Aggravate helped her a lot, but Yae is also tremendously valued in overloaded, with her random targeting allowing a spread of the res shred caused by overloads to apply to many, and she has a wider range of attack than Fischl. She also gains much from energy provided from C1 Chevreuse. I can only think Yae would gain a lot from Ororon in v5.2.

Would like to add Itto to the list too. Itto has always been solid, but his teams have improved and recently, became more flexible. So after Gorou, his teams got added edition of Chiori, increasing his team dps floor as Chiori is far more consistent in dps than Albedo whose construct snaps like a twig on being tripped on.

Then came Kachina who can buff his defense with her C4, apply off field geo with unbreakable geo construct, and especially use the Cinder City set.

And then the largest Itto savior is Xilonen. Breaking off Itto's shackles to mono-geo, she restored Itto teams and introduced him to new team compositions, inclusing hypercarry Itto with Furina + Bennett or a double hydro Itto with Furina + Yelan, and it additionally meant he could use Marechaussee Hunter, a far more resin-efficient set to farm and spend resin on than the domain Husk lies in. Could even lend Itto a DEF goblet from the sheer amount of dmg bonus he'd get from Cinder City, Furina's fanfare, geo resonance, Marechausse 2pc, and Yelan's A1 passive. Thats like 180% dmg bonus for Itto's Charged Attacks with Furina's fanfare maxed.

Personally, my Itto build on MH is ER/DEF/Crit DMG since Xilonen is only geo teammate and her geo ans fav particles arent being directly funneled to Itto. May need to fav Yelan if using DEF sands on Itto.

I am planning a Dehya, Emilie core w/ Dehya on Mountain King and Baizhu as the third. I'm stuck on if I want Furina since she'll canabalize the burning aura for vapes, but will proc blooms for burgeon. Or, Xianyun for VV shred and plunges.
The idea is a Burning Dehya carry so I think Xianyun is the smarter option?
Either way, seeing Dehya slowly inching up in value does my heart good.

So glad I got Xilonen after missing out on Furina, Kazuha, and Yelan. I will wait for those three to come back and in the meantime, make sure to get Zhongli, Neuvillette, Mauvika, and Citlali.

Shenhe, Ganyu, Wriothesley, Ayaka and Kaeya will all be on this list next year when Tsaritsa gets released. I can see melt improving slightly in the upcoming months but not for the characters I mentioned. More like for pyro main DPS characters to pair with Mavuika and maybe Citlali. But the true cryo renaissance will be in Snezhneya.

I think Jello did a really good job with his criteria here. Cant wait for the Cocogoat milk video!

Dendro, Marechaussee Hunter, Furina, Xianyun, Chevruse, Bond of Life really are the most gamechanging factors
and now we are heading into Nightsoul, and Off-field pyro meta that isnt burst reliant like xiangling, thoma. Here's hoping mavuika won't disappoint us.

I think we should also include how easy it'll be to get constellation for standard banner 5 stars because of the yearly selectors. Dehya shoots up immensely for me because of how much improvement she gets as a character with higher constellations

So he put Diluc in the list but not Xiao because he was great since the beginning. By that logic Diluc was also meta in 1.0-1.2 but fell of quickly. Same to case as Xiao. Xiao is the literal definition of aged wine. First he was good but fell off pretty quickly. Later he got his own set, then Faruzan, then Furina, then Xianyun.

I think that of Hu Tao and Xiao that keeps getting better don't belong to the list, Diluc shouldn't be there either. He started as a top DPS, than got power crept and than came back to be somewhat usable. That doesn't sound like fine wine to me hehehe

All Time Low and Mayday Parade vinyls 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 please tell me you listened to MCR

Having Diluc in the top 3 and in similar tiering as Kuki+Thoma is absolutely crazy. If you don't have Xianyun then C0 Diluc is garbage whereas Kuki+Thoma have countless team compositions they are viable in that can be highly competitive. It's obvious you let your bias get the best of you as I know you have Xianyun and play her a lot which is understandable but show me a current abyss clear where Diluc can 36 star without having whale like 5 star support buffing his damage.

Yanfei in Burning team together with Emilie and flex with 2 Pyro / Dendro character is awesome , currently I had a team with Emilie and Yao Yao to give Dendro and support , and Xiangling and Yanfei doing the off-field and on field Pyro

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Ngl, kokomi not being on the list is a crime. She received a very similar amount of trash talk as dehya when she came out, and became considered a great option once shenhe came out.

Also diluc (from what I remember) was meta from release (literally) so I'd debate xiao being a Much more fitting candidate due to him dropping I dare say even farther than diluc level, but then rose much higher after xianyun came out compared to diluc.

Who aged bad:
1. Klee
2. Ganyu
3. Ayaka
4. Yoimiya
5. Yun Jin
6. Eula
7. Rosaria
8. Kaeya
9. Venti
10. Albedo

Trash video

I will lmao if when szeniha drops and everyone starts maining qiqi

Yea I'm going to have to disagree on Dehya and Yae.

Dehya should be a few spots higher if nothing else for being the most hated character in existence, to the point of causing major player burnout, increased levels of toxicity, and game droppage, and still ended up becoming such a flexible unit that's now meta in several teams, and only improves with relatively easy to get cons. She's good in burgeon, great with the last 2 patches of carries, invests well with Chev and any electro dps.

Lisa, as much as I love her and had been waiting for this month's shop to c6 her, shouldn't be above Yae. I know electro as an element is very "interchangable" between it's units, but Yae is literally a one stop shop for ypur electro needs. On fielder damage while off field, and scales better into reactions. She does more damage as Fischl, and saying otherwise is someone either not playing her right or forgetting that Yae can use Golden Troup too, along with directly scales with EM and is multitarget. Keqing is good from being a safe investment, but she's very much still power crept by Clorinde. Yae meanwhile can be placed alongside your Clorinde/Navias and other shorter duration dps. Like an electro Emilie. Or just be the dps herself. Especially when paired with Tighnari in a perfect rotation or various Chev teams (I loved her with Yanfei even before Chev). I'd also keep an eye on her in a Childe/Ororun team with the EC buff.

Kokomi still deserves a mention too. Even with Furina and how good Yelan supposedly is. Kokomi being a role consolidation and good in so many teams, I don't care if she's got less damage or freeze is currently poor. Cryo will come back to being useful, and she's always been a good Tenacity and Thrilling Tales holder. She's only going to stay useful the whole time.

I'm tired of the aggravate slander 🙃
It needs and wants a dedicated 5* Dendro for it, Nahida is definitely designed for bloom stuff not aggravate, and definitely not off-field multiwave, but the reaction itself is just waiting for a more serious character. Right now its very good if not peak despite all the dendros in question doing practically no damage and giving minimal passive buffs.

It neither has a Furina or Bennet for huge generic buffs, or a Emelie style character that actually contributes damage massively, but that's not the reactions fault!

Pluge Diluc can be stronger than many meta teams against some bosses.
And if you are fighting Tulpa its just funny.
But the run you showed was not a good one, you didnt vape any of the plunges, gota go slower, wait for Furian to apply hydro, you will have enough time to vape all the plunges.

Tighnari about to be at the top of this list when Iansan is a spread/aggrivate buffer / sub dps ❤❤❤❤

Not sure what Emilie is doing there, she barely had any time to "age".

Emilie is too new to have aged at all. Also, to not include Zhongli in an Osmanthus Wine list? Shame on you!

I Know this list is based on popular demand, cause most of them seem to be too universal and perfect for new players.
But as a veteran player, I think EMILIE is Slept on so much. I haven't seen ANY character, including Furina...have precise...AOE off field damage like her. Granted its burn focused, but that doesnt mean she can't do hyperbloom too for a couple of seconds. My account before and after her has been shifted. and I have 80 characters. She's incredible.
Also a well built Diluc is actually pretty amazing, I love my Diluc and still use him.

Was hoping for more than 10 seconds on Dehya seeing as she was once considered the worst 5 star

The problem I have with these videos is they're all geared toward Spiral Abyss. I understand that it's an important part of many people's game and it's what people come here for so you're doing good work. The fact that can I still go into co-op rooms with rank 60 characters and we all wipe out on the Narwhal or in a domain and everyone rage quits means that I think there's a need for a good co-op channel.

The Ningguang part felt completely clueless. Ningguang always had good damage and didn't need Xilonen for that. I cleared the current abyss using a team of Chiori, Zhongli, a barely built Mona, and Ningguang and you can even find a guy on here soloing the first half of the current Abyss with her. So Xilonen isn't necessary at all. Simply looking at the numbers she does around 4000% scaling with lots of damage bonuses built in from herself and her BiS set in a span of about 5s and easily does that every rotation thanks to low cooldowns.


Now for the real reasons Ningguang does deserve to be on this list despite all that.
1 - The introduction of Navia and Furina both were huge for her. Both came with artifact sets that were perfect fits for her when she just didnt have a truly good set before. Nighttime is great for more classic Ningguang teams and Furina + her set opens her up to more comfortably actually taking advantage of Ningguang's good scaling.

2 - Ningguang has historically always struggled most with seeing 4-5 enemies at a time due to her extreme single target focus. The Abyss just isnt set up like that anymore so pretty much every Abyss is a perfect for for her now.

3 - Shields seem to be more of a focus for the end game these days and she's one of the best at brute forcing her way through them. Even without a dedicated shield breaker for any element, Ningguang teams can usually break shields anyways.

4 - The amount of options for a second Geo character is way better than it used to be.

A lot of people are trying out Ningguang again and going "WOW Xilonen did so much for her!" when the reality is that the game has just slowly become more favorable for her over time and people just didn't realize thanks to her being written off as clunky early on. Its years worth of improvements being credited to one character lol.

I'd remove Emilie from the list simply because she literally just came out, no time to really age. :p I think it should be for characters that have been around for at least 6 patches / 8+ months

Thoma really surprised me recently! Glad to see him at the top of the list. I recently got him to Lvl70 quite un-built for the Imaginary Theater, and he just fit so well with the other teams and characters. His pyro application and shield was just what I needed. Planning to half-build him so he can be more usable now. I remember him being subpar when he came out.

I disagree with Diluc being on this list. He was never at zero. He was the Meta in version one. He took a bit of a backseat when Hu Tao came along, but was still meta. He got a boost when Xianyun came out, but the dragon strike playstile was around even before that, just in the overworld. Also does Emilie even count? She got "better" literally the version after she came out. That's quite normal. That's more like how regular wine ferments :D

Mona should NOT be on this list brother goodness. In all aspects, she has been powercrept.

1) Terrible Terrible hydro application. On field, single target NAs with a slow application with her skill as her best source of hydro application. You are not keeping a hydro aura for anything. Even for bloom-related teams, Kokomi already does better. Hydro characters are often defined by their application, and she doesnt do it.

2) Her buff is worthless now in the face of Furina. Her one saving grace as a buff has been replaced. Furina's buff lasts longer, buffs far more, and isn't even difficult to activate. Her buff doesn't even buff blooms, making her even worse for bloom-teams compared to Kokomi. The only possible place for her is One-Shot teams, which... why?

3) Damage? MONA DPS? Her highest hit cannot compare to a third of Mualani's rotations.

Stop. Selling. Mona. She has aged like milk so far that its curdled.

Well, warnt zongli garbage wegen he came out? I mean genshin needs to buff his skillset so he would be somehow usefull and I mean... look at him now

I think Xiao should remain on the list because back then he hasnt really gotten a complete team (Jean isnt good unless C4, Double Geo is not doing much other than Zhongli shield, You can play him in National and taser but ehhh) not until recently that he actually got a team the builds around him

EDIT: I would remove Jean because Xianyun exist, Ningguang because Navia exist, Mona has freeze and she fell of from there, Yanfei due to having building her shield even back then was a thing but very niche

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ok but Mona wasnt originally a zero, she used to be essential part of the top meta team Morgana ????? she fell off when Morgana did but she certainly didnt start at zero imo

Kokomi? I'm surprised I'm not even seeing it listed I still have to watch the rest to know if it's there but what about my girl Kokomi, kokomi with as bad as she was looked at at the beginning should definitely be on this list she may not be quite as up as she was with some of the new meta but there is a girl who went from zero to hero as much as everybody was knocking her when she first came out

I pulled for hutai with the risk of getting it just to get kuki, I mean Im not goint to to win 7th 50/50 in a row anyway right? I did get kuki thank god, now I can finally use useless nahida and yelan lol.

Kuki was not good for exactly 4 patches.. 2.7 to 3.1.. she became the carry when Nahida came in 3.2.. but post 5.0, I feel Kuki is losing her value as top must pull cause hyperbloom scales of char & enemy lvls & we are at 103+ lvl enemies now a days in overworld & the latest event.

I build candace because I really like her.
Since her debut. I dont really care about meta but recently she pop off and I am so proud of her.
Recently my candace did 70k dmg.
I was so impressed 😭