10Gb Home Network (P1) - Introduction

Yeah, I’m going to build a 10G LAN so my daughters and I can play State of Decay 2 without lag.

I need this for my freenas box

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great video have a few questions 1 what 10gb dual card would work in a dell r815 and a dell R510

That's right.. talk to people like they're stupid.. That always sells your point well. Ahem... not.

Great video but you definitely need to clarify some stuff. In this video you mix SAN (Storage area network) and LAN (local area network) with all of their purposes and standards together. Where realistically they are separate systems and dont work together. With switches, SFP's, and network cards there are ethernet based and fiber channel based. Fiber channel is exclusively for SAN and ethernet is obviously LAN. The two wont mix and can result in wasted money in parts or confusion with it not working. A SAN network is only for providing storage and cannot be used for regular network traffic. At my office we have 10gbs LAN network with fiber switches for ethernet to connect servers together and run one line to 20pcs we also have a 10gbs fiber SAN fabric network which is used to provide storage for VM's and thin clients. They are separate systems and used for very diffrent purposes. If you want more information about this feel free to contact me or "back yard tech" and "Eli the computer guy" both have great SAN vs LAN videos.

So you're telling me that you don't have your place rigged up with fiber yet? So Sad.

Fuck your copper, go fiber.

He's not considering ROI at all; yes, 10 gb is awesome but it's still relatively expensive to implement in mid-2018 even just adding a 10gbNIC to your NAS and computer and doing a direct connect crossover; so it's not even really networking... my opinion is 1 gbps is perfect for home still, no home user (w/ exceptions such as leasers / etc that essentially operate a MDW out of their house) will ever get a valuable ROI on upgrading to 10 gbps, buttttttt not gonna argue a home office that serves clients on a WAN or geek who doesn't fiscally care totally might...

2 years out and it's still not cost effective.

Point-to-point between two computers is easy and cheap--two used 10G NICs and a cable. But if you want a third machine, you need a switch (or messy forwarding/routing among the computers), which has been expensive. Mikrotik has a 4-port SFP+ switch now for under $150, making it somewhat more cost-effective to network a few machines with 10G links.

actually VERY VERY FEW people actually need 10GBPS networks … interesting but for home use is kind of unnecessary.

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Yeah, the price is insane... A single pcie network card is still like $120 and then you have to by a cable spool, crimper, and all the ends which adds another $500. So you are looking at $1000 just to do a small 1000 sqft area with 2 computers. It is currently (as of 2/2019) more economical to do LACP with regular cabling on manageable switches.

USB 4 is way far ahead.

Thank you for posting this video. A lot of useful information. You sir have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work.

Amazing how dated these videos get, now we have cheap SSDs, cheap ram and cheap cpu cores but weirdly, 10gbe is STILL fuking expensive.

HI Support for OptiPlex 9020 or 790 tnxs

Throw in a DELL 0272F MELLANOX CONNECTX-4 100GBE DUAL PORT NIC for $350.00 and you'll have 10/100/1000/10000/100000 Ethernet capability.

Not just with specific point to point connections but also for network backbone between switches and other appliances. Having a 1Gb switch in one area and having it up-link to the router or firewall with a fiber or copper 10Gb back bone helps a ton with aggregation and latency even if the end point device like a workstation or media server doesn't have a 10Gb NIC. If you had a server on the network with a 10Gb NIC on top of that you would still see improvements in transfer rate at the client over just having 1Gb network throughout.

I rather have 50 mbps download and upload and ping 1
For watching girls kissing without lag

I Have Ben Using 10Gb P2P Networking for a couple of three years for my FreeNas Server & I Still Remember the shock from 1Gb to 10Gb Speed WOW..lol. That Was Like Going From a old 3.5Hdd To a Ssd on ya Computer .Such a great Upgrade,& for not a Lot Of Money ! Totaly Worth it imho ! Id Like To See a Updated 10Gb Video,As I Have Ben Thinking of Going /Experiment With 100Gb..LOL.

really nice

Well done! Thank you. I'll be starting work on my own HAN transition soon.

I should know how to build ower own networks to do bussnies please help in this

Yes, It's well done. But, I'm a techno-tard. This is all completely new for me. I do want a 10gigabit home networking system.... But I need a step by step, A-Z video.

I'm planning to upgrade to 10G on my LAN. I'm going to build a 12 Core VM machine running ESXi and install Pfsense on it along with some other server VMs. I'll also be using SFP+ NIC cards and optical cables to make the transition. Then I'm going to run a lancache system to cache downloads and hopefully when someone else downloads the same file (like a game or something). it will serve them the cached download at 10Gbps. It'll be a fun project and I can't wait!

Lagging multiple connections into one is definitely possible. As I'm actually using that right now. 4 1gbit lans together giving me a 400mb/s link. Oh yeah did I mention how much cheaper it is than 10gb? ... ;)

Do I need this when my budget ISP provides only 12MB/s Max?

I really don't understand why they never built a striping mechanism into link aggregation. I get that they are for failover, but if the extra links are there, they might as well be used to speed things up even for a single connection.

And i just Upgrade from 10Mb/s to 100Mb/s

I think it's funny that a dual port 40/56 GB/s QSFP+ Nic is cheaper than a 10GBaseT one. Even 100 GB/s card are cheaper.

"Do you like massive amounts of performance even though you can't justify it?" lmao this cracked me up

Thank you I learned a lot. on to part 2.

I have one fileserver running linux and hosting my files spread on a lot of wd red drives with a raid controller, now I plan to add a second server which should get high speed file access. My idea as long as i dont have a 10g switch is to get 2 sfp+ cards and a cable to get high sped straight access to the fileserver, would it work?

Short question: an sfp+ copper drect attach cable costs minimum 80€, 2 new 10g sfp+ fibre modules and an lc to lc fibre would cost me under 50€ so is there any advantage with using dac?

Correction
125MB/s over gigabit Ethernet is absolutely unachievable
First your billion bits are divided by 8 = 125M
Second this 125M is divided by 1514 (ether type = 2 bytes, source MAC 6 bytes, destination MAC 6 bytes, total 14 bytes) and only 1500 bytes are used for any data transmission
This gives 123,844,121 bytes a second
IP plus TCP takes 40 bytes of that
Divide by 1500, multiply by 1460
120,541,611 bytes a second
And now for binary megabytes
Divide by 1048576
114.95MiB/s
This a limit at 1514 frame size (1500 Maximal Transmission Unit)

Just dividing by 8 is huge simplification

Just mine set up. I've picked up the fiber and the copper to do 10gb. Not hard to setup.

I like faster even if it doesn’t make sense nor seem realistic 😂

Very nice video... great content, great delivery and easy to digest.. Thank you

Here I am, aping gigabit with a USB Linux.

What did you use to make your network diagram?

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More than 7 years later, 10GBit has hardly caught on in the home.
Too expensive, too much energy consumption and too short cable routes.
In contrast, 2.5 GB on the old CAT6 cables is slowly catching on