Reacting to : Most Controversial Moments in Smash History

Lol leffen is def in the wrong if he didn't pause on purpose

According to your own logic sg should take the stock because it shouldn't be up to the players.

So cringe how people think Leffen was wrong for the stock thing.

HE PAUSED MULTIPLE TIMES AND CAUSED THEM TO DO TEAM DAMAGE.

That's literally inarguable and I'm sure Scar regretted it tbh.

NOW REDO THIS VIDEO WITH ALL THE LATEST DRAMA...

"Well this is obviously not ok...
but it is funny" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

In regards to the second video, I 100% agree with you. It's just like in tennis reviews, if you want to challenge a call you have to do it immediately, you can't play the point out and then challenge once you lose the point.

I wanna come to Tk Breezy's defense with the bodied comment. I think it was perfectly acceptable considering the reaction it got from the crowd. If commentators can't weigh in on the morality of a highly controversial moment as it happens before them then they have to put on their bald faced lie face and play it off somehow as if they're entertaining children. Imo if sports athletes on a high level display bad sportsmanship they ought to be ripped on, it puts the incorrect behavior on display and teaches everyone why you shake hands and don't put up a fuss when things don't happen perfectly, and I betchyou what, if they shook hands Tk Breezy would had nothing more to say about it, he would have kept that text to himself, but the handshake didn't happen, even though it would have been really refreshing.

100% agree with Armada's thoughts on the no pausing rule as is. It definitely shouldn't be up to the individual players, that's horribly unfair.

He’s allowed to take content cuz he ain’t a pedo

I don't get it what was wrong with this sonic match? Can someone tell me?

That HB/Wobbles one still pisses me off to this day. I was there live too.

LMAO at scars hand going for instinctual hand shake only to be like oh fuck no

i would always accidentally change it to coin match in the settings lol

if i was hbox, at next evo, every minute or so id ask "hey did the rules change?" just to annoy them

"Don't 100% qu[...]te me on this" -Armada

I feel like with the coaching and the "going back to same stage" issue it is the responsibility of the opponent to recognize these rule violations, as they are visible, and call a TO. With the 0.9 knockback it isn't visible, so it is not the competitors responsibility to call it out. IMO the entire set should have been replayed

The grimiest thing about Fortune's whole shit is that he didn't even need the stock, he was ahead

But if it's set to .9 then both players had to play with it. And they did the whole set. So it's fair at that point.

"He claims the knockback was at 0.9"
Armada: First time?

i would've ran on stage and unplugged Mike's controller

I love how no matter how many times I see these on channels, this fortune dude always looks like the biggest piece of trash in the world.

the bayonetta vs Sonic aftermath scenario with the saltiness and stuff doesn't make sense.. cause bayonetta won before AND after the knockback being .9 .. so technically got 4 - 1

the mikehaze scream gets me every time. and i think its more justified bc it wasnt in bracket

Hbox recently talked about he and Crunch asked a TO for clarification and they OKed it

My problem with the idea of not replaying at least something in the 0.9 launch rate situation is that you can’t really call it out because it is something super quick and affects every game. It’s different from stage ban because you have a very easy time knowing what stage you are allowed to go back to. If there was a very obvious indicator of the launch rate then it shouldn’t be replayed, but there isn’t it is hidden in the rules and can’t be identified easily

About what you said in the beginning Armada about no matter what if you pause you loose a stock. I have a question for that. In a tournament i was in. The HDMI cable was bad and our screen went black. I paused the game on instinct. This happened twice. We continued playing and the TO's said it was okay and we'll let this slide. Would you then say that my stock would need to be taken? I am genuinely curious about this because this has been bugging me for so long now. This was also before covid so this was an in person event. Not online. If anyone has any opinions about this. Please tell me

“Zack didn’t do anything wrong…”

If I can reallocate all the hate Hungry box have gotten I would put it on fortune

Leffen only got hate for the pause incident because he's Leffen, if it was literally any other player no one would've cared.

so that first clip, scar paused twice and was it leffen who paused the 3rd time? if leffen was gunna enforce that pause rule someone should of made him do it as well after all he did pause

Armada with the victim blaming

That MikeHaze clip is irresistible, man

"There's nothing in the rules saying I can't infinite chaingrab!"

"Yeah, and there's nothing in the rules saying I can't scream in your face whenever you do it!"

Doesn't matter if both players violated the rules, hbox did it first, therefore the match was forfeit as soon as it happened. No further official game could take place. What a stupid ruling

biggest controversy is you leaving in your prime comeback

I liked the vid the moment Armada disagreed with TKBreezy on his "Bodied" sign!
That was the right callout!

Penalties for pausing or the like should never be up to the players.

How about this, if there was a smash anime and the main character was playing a villain that paused would he take the stock? hell no

Leffen paused also soooooooo

@Armada (i love u armada, i dont blame you for not agreeing with me cuz maybe you didnt consider the implications about the following topic) i legit think that if the damage/launch ratio being wrong gets noticed after a game, thats not necessarily the players fault and its a way bigger deal than the map/stage pick rules cuz it messes with the game in ways you arent supposed to get used to in practice, unlike map disadvantage, so i really really think that as long as the damage ratio gets noticed before its literally too late to replay, it should be replayed. imagine if a major grand finals was set to like 1.2 or 0.8 (or even 1.1 or 0.9 right) or some worse bullshit , and you notice right after game5 of the first set, it would kind of be ridiculous to not replay, especially if the person who won winners final ends up winning the first set in grand final (aka winning the grand final through winners bracket) on wrong dmg ratio, it would be completely fukin outrageous to not just replay the fucking set cmon bro you know im so goddam right. exception for lack of time left for the event: single match tiebreaker or whatever you wanna call it (or like if you have to do a replay of grand finals at a later date/event due to time constraint or whatever the fuck, competitive integrity is so important man, especially with cash prizes, just pay out 2nd place winnings to both grand finalists and give the rest to the winner once you can hold the delayed final, again, im so correct that it hurts)... <3 p.s. subscribe to armada guys we all know he's the real goat. also armada, hot juans when? (we forgive you if you dont like spicy food, simply demand hbox lets u eat something you wanna eat instead, like a gigachad xD EASYKLAP just do it trademark)

1. Scar was the d bag

Mike Haze is a loser

Rules are rules. Don't pause

Leffen is a tool.

Hbox asked the TO if coaching was allowed they said yes then after the fact is was not allowed so the person doing the inspecting didn’t actually say anything you can see the TO standing by crunch