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As an American, it’s bizarre they don’t refer to him as “dr” MLK
ОтветитьRead Like A Fading Shadow by Antonio Munoz Molina
ОтветитьJames Earl Ray lived a vagrant life, was often skint, probably slept rough and yet he had the wherewithal to drive a Ford Mustang, pay his fare to the UK, maintain digs there, have the knowledge to rob a bank by himself and our lads didn’t find that worthy of comment. Critical Thinking skills were on holiday for this episode.
ОтветитьHe was a major womaniser but a great orator
ОтветитьYou guys make a wonderful team for this episode with Tom's religious knowledge and Dominic's political knowledge.
ОтветитьAny mention of Lisbon?
ОтветитьHaha according to the telegraph you get a million pounds each per year for this haha that's so funny
ОтветитьWow. That was excellent. Thank you.
ОтветитьMagic shaving powder is still a thing that can be purchased today in the US. When water is added, it becomes a depilatory and used for razor bumps and ingrown hairs.
ОтветитьI graduated in 1967 from St. Mary’s Episcopal School in Memphis, and returned from the University of Chicago for spring break early in April 1968. so I was in Memphis in the days leading up to April 4th, and on a plane back to Chicago when the assassination happened. when I landed and heard what happened, I immediately thought it has been financed by wealthy white men, and that I probably knew some of them, based on what I had heard that week from some of my friends’ fathers. And then I was in the midst of riots and fires in the south side of Chicago.
Ответить"Protesting his innocence just like Lee Harvey..." Yeah, because obviously the official story behind the JFK assassination is water tight.
ОтветитьAgain, it’s like Obama or anyone else why are we so impressed with flowery language shouldn’t we be more impressed with results with merit. Wooden king have been better serve to tell his constituency white or black. Go home husbands love your wives. Stay together raise your children teach them right from wrong so they’re not lawless so they’re not throwing bricks through windows.wouldn’t have been better to trust in Jesus Jesus Christ was he a reverend or not clearly not
ОтветитьSo I miss the point now guys we’re almost 60 years post king. All the rhetoric the lofty language, the biblical metaphors. And things are worse for the black man and for his family. So guys show some intellect and tell me the reason. You know with the reason is it’s not the white man, it’s the Democratic leaders, black and white who kept the black man as their slaves for the past 60 years getting their votes but not promoting quality education, responsibility and being good mothers and fathers. The family is destroyed and the black culture like nothing else hip-hop rap, baby mama drama everything is poisoned, so all the rhetoric has met nothing
ОтветитьIt’s wonderful to hear such an in-depth exploration of the politics around MLK from British historians. As an American I think we need the rest of the world’s views to give us better perspective on the issue of race, which is still so unresolved in our politics and culture.
ОтветитьYour presentation had me on the edge of the chair as I relived the events of Dr. Martin Luther’s assassination. Well done, gentlemen.
Ответитьthanks for another riveting presentation - you bring it alive - i was 16 and living in Canada as the gut wrenching news arrived. It was one more blow to a nation already in big trouble.
ОтветитьMartin Luther King was undoubtedly a great man and a towering historical figure in American history, but let's not start mythologizing him. First of all, a significant portion of his greatest speeches were plagiarized. (All historians now agree that this this is true, just google it.) And he didn't just have a "mistress" -- he was an inveterate womanizer. The FBI has a recording of him having a sex party in a hotel with his aides and number of hookers and this tape will be released in 2027. (Again, just google it.) It was this tape that the FBI was using to suggest to him that he should kill himself. There have been rumors (which are probably nothing more than that) that the tape reveals a woman being raped. If that turns out to be true, however, it will cause massive trauma in the US.
Ответитьbut it really doesn't matter to me now...
ОтветитьYou guys should have Americans who lived in the north and lived through this period. Dog whistle? Blacks wanted law and order more than whites! Get a clue.
ОтветитьIs the case against Ray really that cut and dry?
How did an convict who escaped to Mexico, return to the U.S. in November 1967, criss cross the country multiple times, commit this murder, travel to Canada, get a Canadian Passport, travel to London, take a trip to Portugal, back to London where he was apprehended, without any help?
I believe even the King family have doubts.
Great work you two
ОтветитьConrpone, it's basically just cornbread, just slightly different ingredients (leading to a different texture, what have you). Mark Twain wrote an interesting essay called "Corn Pone Opinions."
ОтветитьThank you for another great video and eduction ❤
ОтветитьReagan was horrible. When the AIDS crisis started he said "it's only killing fags". It took him two years to do anything about it.
ОтветитьEric Starvo Galt (correct name, correct spelling) was a living Canadian whose identity James Earl Ray stole...with the aid of the intelligence network in Montreal that also helped Ray escape to England. For the complete and accurate story, see Larry Hancock and Stuart Wexler's book "Killing King."
ОтветитьNothing can put a shine on Ronald Reagan. A turd through and through
ОтветитьThanks
ОтветитьThank You two. I learned some new things such as they nabbed James Earl Ray in London and that he wanted to flee to Rhodesia.
Also as someone who lives in the DC Area that the areas affected by the riots really didn't start recovering from those riots until the 1990's during the administration of Mayor Tony Williams.
Although I love the rest is history they have massively brushed over James Earl Rays guilt and just said it to be the most clear cut with clearly having done no research on it as if they did they would have found it’s the least clear cut and most likely that a conspiracy took place.
This was for a number of reasons; such as the bullet not matching the gun that James Earl Ray was meant to have fired from, a tree being in the way of the window he was meant to have shot from which was cut down by local police the night following the shooting, virtually everyone at the scene not saying that the shot came from where it was meant to have come from (including most of the people with King which Dominic wrongly said the contrary), and the actual logistics of how he was meant to have taken the shot on top of a bathtub out of a high window being virtually impossible.
This is not even circumstantial this is hard evidence, and is so clear cut that a court in the 1999 after over 70 witnesses corroborated the King family’s story, awarded the King family money after they sued saying it was a government conspiracy with the court arguing that Kings death was likely the result of a government conspiracy. Although based on the evidence many conspiracies are probably unlikely like the JFK one, some including this one are exceedingly likely to be the case. I would encourage Dominic and Tom to research themselves into this.
2 British blokes mocking Southern soul food. The irony.
ОтветитьMy dad is from Chicago, and he has stories about how hated King was in the city among whites for trying to integrate white neighborhoods. To the point that being in a bar when the news of his assassination broke, there were more than a few cheers. He also mentioned a massive national guard presence the next few days right on the municipal borders of Chicago at least in Oak Park and Cicero to prevent any potential rioters from crossing over into mostly white suburbs, too.
ОтветитьTom seems quite certain about the internal motivations of MLK. Really? Do you think the primary impetus behind his decade -long struggle was to be remembered as a prophet? Isn't it more likely that he simply was morally offended by the systemic injustices faced by Black Americans and felt compelled to speak out against them, even if it meant he would be persecuted and ultimately murdered for doing so? One might believe that he sought martyrdom, as if that might in some way diminish his impact on history by painting his stand as prideful in some way, but it's just as likely that he saw that his destruction was inevitable and so there was no point in turning away from the martyr role that had been thrust upon him if it meant it could lead to advances for Black people.
ОтветитьHe was such an extraordinary and powerful man - taken away too soon 😢
ОтветитьA side detail: in the 1968 rioting in Baltimore Spiro Agnew, Governor of Maryland, threatened looters they would be shot by deployed MD National Guardsmen. This brought him national prominence. One year later he was VPOTUS.
ОтветитьThis was an emotional one , well done guys . I highly recommend visiting the Lorraine Motel ...... one of your greatest podcasts yet !
ОтветитьMagic Shaving Power was used by many black men as an alternative to a razor in order to avoid unsightly razor bumps
ОтветитьMy dad and I are long time supporters from Memphis. Hampton Sides, whose book you referenced, was one of his high school classmates. We really enjoyed hearing the opinion of our home from the perspective of two British historians. These are events that he lived through and are forever intertwined with the city. Among our great cultural sights like Graceland and the Stax and Sun music studios, there is the excellent Civil Rights Museum, which is attached to the Lorraine Motel and includes MLK’s room and the room from which James Earl Ray fired the shot.
ОтветитьMight want to look in to what king got up to in his private life.
ОтветитьAs falsified by the FBI. We will never know who killed JFK etc.
ОтветитьThank you for a thoroughly informative and fascinating episode. I recently discovered your podcast, and I am besotted. I appreciate your fascinating discussions on variety of intriguing issues and people and your courage to cover controversial subjects with objectivity. Thanking you from North Carolina 🇺🇸.
ОтветитьI've notice that they say Sinai as si-knee-eye consistently on this channel. Is this actually a more correct pronunciation than the two syllable version I hear everywhere else?
ОтветитьRepublicans indeed made big gains in the 1966 midterms, but it should be noted that even after that election, the Democrats still retained a 248-187 majority in the House and a 64-36 majority in the Senate.
ОтветитьDemocrats HATE talking about their role in "Civil Rights" since they were forced to give up their slaves.
(Only Democrats owned slaves; not ONE Republican did)
And it's no secret that reconstruction was essentially the radicalization of the Southern Democrats "Dixiecrats" to further their attack on Black America as well as the "Party of Emancipation," the Republicans.
The Democrats gave rise to lynchings, the KKK, segregation laws and they fought AGAINST Civil rights measures going back to shortly after emancipation all the way up to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Democrats fought against Blacks standing equal to White men even staging a filibuster in Congress to prevent passage.
Johnson's "The Great Society" promised to have
"n**** voting for the Democrat Party for the next hundred years."
Well, he made it almost 60 years. Now Blacks are starting to wake up to the BS they've been fed since FDR coaxed Black America over to the Party of Slavery, only to enslave them again on their urban plantations.
No more!
Black families had a 25% divorce rate before the CR movement of the 60s.
Rural Black men out earned Rural Whites pre 1950.
Democrats have DESTROYED Black culture and have made them more militant, less marketable and more dependent on federal assistance.
Democrats are still throwing a tantrum because we took their slaves away.
Black America must return to THEIR Republican party and finally leave the most evil party in America since 1828.
Your self-deprecation, achieved by friendly banter, goes a long way to making even the most ernest of subjects somehow palatable to either side of the argument.
As a pensioner, I would say that your chemistry is pretty well unique in broadcasting.
Well Done!
Ernst Stavro Blofeld 😂😂😂😂😂😂
ОтветитьThis is powerful
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