Dr Jeffrey MacDonald: The Green Beret Killings | Great Crimes and Trials of the Twentieth Century

Unbelievable lie's

Have investigated the case on Jeffrey MacDonald site and read various documents and books: I believe, as the psychiatrists testified to during the grand jury, that MacDonald's masculinity was somehow challenged by Collette and MacDonald, short on sleep and high on amphetamines, lashed out at his wife, killing her and accidentally killing his daughter Kimberly. I believe he then decided to kill Kristen to explain the deaths. I think the precipitating issue was that Collette mentioned her psychology class and the teacher and student opinions when she brought up the issue of Kimberly's bedwetting to the class. Collette said that MacDonald insisted Collette go to the living room couch when one of the kids wanted to sleep with them. I think 5 year old Kimberly's bedwetting was a result of sexual child abuse by MacDonald and perhaps Collette speculated on the weirdness of MacDonald wanting her to sleep on the couch so one or more of the kids could sleep on the bed with MacDonald and that triggered him. That would explain why MacDonald insists that Kristen was the one who wet the bed, not Kimberly. Of course, the evidence is that Kimberly was the one who wet the bed.

The supposed "knife thrust" in his own chest was a precise surgical incision made to give him a tiny pneumothorax, but nothing life threatening

MacDonald claimed that the four hippies were in his presence while his wife was screaming for help????? That would mean that there were more than four hippies total in the house. Why did the wanted poster only seek four people? The arithmetic is off. To quote the Duct-Tape Bandit, "Do the math, do the homework, man!!

Segal and the father in law look related.

"Its bad that I lost my family. And its terrible I am accused...." OMG.

People did say they witnessed Helena in the floppy hat hanging around all over the place that night in various locations and she may have been, but most accounts are of her alone, a few with these other hippies...however no real evidence of them in the house? No muddy shoe prints even though it was raining hard, no finger prints on the phone that she allegedly answered? Maybe not checked idk I know the investigation was not done well. However Jeff himself is the reason I feel he his guilty...either he is the unluckiest of the lucky meaning others seemed to leave him pretty much unharmed when the innocent ones were slaughtered and he got convicted for it, or he truly is a uncaring detached self absorbed narcissist that is guilty...either way he’s screwed

He sounds like a very guilty person when he speaks...doesn’t show any emotion or care of his family annihilated just speaks of evidence on how he should or could not be convicted ...very self serving

No doubt mc Donald was an intelligent man but he made mistakes and his story doesn’t match the physical evidence No a psychopath will continue To
lie beyond reason and logic even when his lies are revealed No he will never admit his guilt because he doesn’t feel any guilt His condition is beyond treatment because you can’t manufacture a conscience

It’s amazing how the public can be duped by someone like Jeffery because they can’t handle the truth The fact is humans have a dark side and it can be brought out by different circumstances and the power of anger and rage Mr Mc Donald doesn’t have regret or guilt that’s just who he is

I ate lunch and dinner with him every day for years in fed prison and he claims and maintains he did not do it and I believe him

The narrator sounds like my father. My father studied the Greats ie Latin and Greek.

A narcissistic psychopath who has his 'story' well rehearsed. Totally guilty and is right where he should be.

You can't find a person more guilty than him. Sack of shit.

Macdonald was convicted because after the original charges were dropped he made the cardinal error of getting on tv and whining about the way he'd been treated. He came across as phony and implausible.

Never speak to the media folks under any circumstances whatsoever.

Anyone else familiar with the band Numenorean? They're what led me to search up and learn about this specific case. What a stomach churning story.

You icepicked your children!!!? Theres a spesh place in hell for you, ya P.O.S! 🤯🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

He is feeling the pain he caused now. We all go through this when pass on. Some goes through extra pain to learn not punishment.

This reminds me of the darlie routier case, she murdered those two little boys her own flesh and blood she stabbed them so hard the knife went right through their bodies and chipped the floor they lay on, that case always fills me with sadness and anger! How people can do that to anyone let alone a child of their own is someone normal people can't comprehend 😪

But if he saw them all in the living room how could they also attacking his wife and her shouting "Geoff why are they doing this" and also I don't think that's what you'd be wasting breath saying all that. He's guilty!

MacDonald was a young, macho southern white man who was so deeply entitled by society that he spun a ridiculous yarn about the butchery of his family and absolutely expected authorities to believe him. He is a narcissist, and probably has psychopathic traits as well. I’m sure he has grown to believe his own fantasy. He is where he belongs.

He couldn’t keep his wee wee in his pants. Cheated and impregnated his wife with a third. Narcissist. Got tired of the family and offed them.

I am as sure as it is possible to be that MacDonald is guilty. Why would a hippy gang with a grudge against this man brutally kill an innocent woman and children and not bother to inflict serious injury on their intended target. I think he is probably a narcissist. He did have a motive, he liked to pursue other women. There will always be a slight doubt but it is quite slight

How do you kill a woman pregnant with so many weapons knife ice pick wood and two angels baby girls with knife ice pick wood so much wounds and the man of the house just small wound and scratches, my God a blind person can see he did it. CHRIS WATTS..........

If you look at similar cases of male familicide, they bear many similarities. We can detect the probable course of events of this case by looking at other cases where the men admitted their guilt. A good example is the Chris Watts family murder, and he ultimately confessed. MacDonald was not the type. His tacit admission of guilt was his appearances on talk shows and what he said on them and to the press. But otherwise, the cases are similar. Watts killed his family when he had two young girls and one male child in his wife's womb. For some reason, this is a trigger to these men. That's when they decide they want to be bachelors again. Perhaps MacDonald would have been forced to admit his guilt had he committed his crimes in the digital age when we now have all these records of conversations and video-cameras to record movement outside our homes. Both men had girlfriends. They had decided fatherhood and husbandhood didn't suit them and then one day when a fight started at home, it escalated into the carrying out of a plan they had maintained in their hearts for at least a few months. To kill their family and start fresh, without the embarrassment of a divorce and alimony and child support payments. I think a lot of these men had weak fathers they couldn't respect.

It’s incredible how much collette’s step father loved her and her girls!

No no no no no! It was not “visitor daycare,” nor was it “the 7th or February.” These are simple, and easy facts to find. Even in books, before the internet, would tell you this.
Narrator even states a few minutes later, that it was an open base in 1970. Many were, specifically housing, prior to 9/11. And this occurred on the night of the 17th in to the morning of the 18th. It’s hard to listen when they can’t get basic facts accurate.

I lived in Patchogue NY. Always heard it pronounced Patch Ogg not Pa Cho gee. good documentary otherwise.

Precious lives I hope they are blessed now the wife and babies

It’s so sad that Jeffrey McDonald didn’t love his wife and children like Colette’s step father did!

He even looks like and has similar maronisms as Diane downes

He is guilty as hell and he will rot in prison. Typical biology of a male who murders his family because he wants more sexual access and freedom. he just got tired of being a slave to those women. Given the perceived societal constraints of the day with McDonald being a Catholic and his need to look good to other people. he saw the murder of his wife and children would be more honorable than an actual divorce. I know this type of individual like a book and beleive me when I tell you- that on McDonalds dying day- he will never admitt to his crimes

Very odd background music, as if in a spagetti western movie.

To me... it seems like Helena was threatened. She was selling drugs and/or with people who were selling drugs. A good source of drugs is a doctor and this doctor seems like the type, to do that for the thrill. Why did they not check to see what kinds of drugs he was prescribing and if anything looked odd?

Merci jones

He reminde me of Diana Downs, they are both psychopaths

He's as guilty as OJ!
Murdering crock of horse S@#£!

I think he may very be guilty simply by the fact that in footage of him after the murders he doesn't behave like an anguished widower or father of a murdered child. He doesn't behave how you'd expect such a person would-depressed, despondent, bitter. I mean look at interviews with guys like Fred Goldman (whose son was murdered by O.J. Simpson), John Walsh (whose son was murdered) I mean you can read the anguish on their faces but Macdonald shows none of that. He gives the impression of: "Ok they were murdered. Now back to work."

WHY would a group of drug addled hippies want to go out and murder a family? Ok Charles Manson-rare exception-but usually that doesn't fit the hippie persona. It would be like imagining the characters from Hair going out and murdering a family! Not to mention how would a group of air head dope heads know all about expert breaking and entering, and serious planning?

He cheated on his wife even while they were engaged! That's a clue.

He was worse than Chris watts

My issue is: a person has to be DERANGED to do what he did. Yet there were no warning signs. There've been stellar military men who turned out be criminals -- Iike that Canadian Air Force Colonel and rapist. But this case is next level craziness. Not even Chris Watts was this violent toward his own children. They conjecture MacDonald was arguing with his wife when he lost his mind. Normal people do not lose their minds this easily (even on drugs). Was he fighting with his wife for months, years? But then why no witnesses? No one saw his wife with bruises or acting tensely? She never confided in anyone, not even her trusting step-father? Sure, maybe MacDonald slept around, but he didn't have a lover to run away with, no one worth killing his family for. Makes no sense!

Thanks for the upload, but why do so many of these, this one included, have such horrible music accompanying? Makes this almost unwatchable.

Dig a bit deeper ,try Ted Gunderson

How could this man live with himself, knowing he knifed his baby girls and pregnant wife to death, and how could any woman go out with him, thinking he may have KILLED?!

The evidence is so obvious in proving his guilt. Only an illiterate ignorant person could conclude otherwise. So tired of idiots questioning his guilt

Im reading the book now.This is such an interesting yet very tragic case.

She was too good for him, I hope he's still in prison.

Thank you