This is Why Ryzen 5 3600s Are FAILING!

Run everything in the bios as stock, and see if temps drops.

Looks like 3700x was worth the extra few bucks.Thing gets 240FPS in Warzone

My r5 3600 have the same issues. Fix with - Disable Precision Boost, manual clock to 4200Mhz, 1.21v Vcore - ... Now the max temperature is 68ºC in Cinebench test

CPUs should have built-in thermal protection and should not fail even if the cooling is insufficient. It appears that AMD sacrificed reliability for benchmark scores.

A lot of board manufacturers tell you which is the highest BIOS you should use for a particular CPU, so that's more than likely the issue.
Read the support pages don't just go updating your BIOS.

I am having the same problem with a320m s2h gigabyte 😢😢

I had used the cooler that came with my 3600 only for a short time. Compiling on all 12 threads caused it to over heat and shut down. That cooler is absolute junk. I replaced it with the Thermalright Peerless Assassin for around $30. Works great even on my 5900x.

for $20 you get excellent air coolers that a miles ahead of any boxed one...

Mine one's causing bluescreens whenever I put dual-channel ram 😅 and when I put one stick it works ( yes I changed rams )

On my Ryzen 3600XT 3.8ghz it boost to 4.6ghz on Precision boost.. I left memory overclocked left everything else on auto left Precision boost on and all I did was set it to 70... Now it's hitting 4.4ghz all the time without overheating!!! Great fix before I was reaching up to 4.6ghz heating up bad and throttling down!!!! It's works great now just with that little change I have a B550 Asrock motherboard

Wraith stealth coolers are crap. But also, a bit undervolting is pretty much a must with air-cooling.

Ive found them to do a little better on LLC4 in terms of stability. At first my used 3600XT wouldn't do well on all core overclock, and boost was mediocre. It showed all the signs it might need more voltage for stability. Max memory speed was 3666mt. Wouldn't take an undervolt of any kind without crashes. Its only when i applied LLC4 (asus) that changed, suddenly i was getting sick boost and stabilty on 3733mt with FMAX enhancer on, 48hr stable.

SO yea, kinda the opposite result, and i suspect you may be able to replicate it.

I do think a lot of the failure is down to motherboards, which are known to amplify power to the CPU. I only tried LLC4 because its a running theme on asus boards for overclocking. Mine needed a greater voltage range (high and low end), which LLC4 specifically gives with asus (modes change between brands, i think with MSI it might be LLC3 that increases the full range). Motherboards badly misreport power as im sure you know. That and like you say crap coolers, both you used are crap, albeit standard.

Yours was running hotter than mine, max load this tweaked 3600XT reaches is around 80C, but im in north UK. I really doubt thats the issue though. A lot of am4 chips sit close to 90C these days, check out x3d temps (its near impossible to get them below 80C full load even with 360mm AIO / custom water, 90-95C is basically their default for full load). Keep in mind in an x3d the cache is getting hit with that heat, and they are proving rock solid. Materials have come a long way. My standard 5800x3d was hitting 90-93C through P95 blend using a 240mm AIO.

Even in zen 2 i would only really be concerned if hitting above 95C or getting 85-90C sustained

Ive since put negative 30 offset on the 5800x3d & paired it with bclk overclock (these bad boys can do 5Ghz+ on stock voltage btw.... though i settled for 4.75GHz fully stable as im using nvme). With RAM & fabric 1:1 its happy at 3800mt c16 1.38v, SOC 1050mV. Runs cooler (80-85 full load) and much faster. Ill probably also put a 280mm AIO. I do sleep better knowing its cooler, but it was mainly for the performance - it was a significant score increase.. A lot of people with these are hitting over 95C and maintaining high RAM OC for a good few years, though they are zen 3.

x3D are far, far more aggressive on the boosting than other variants though. So id have expected failures by now if the heat was an issue. They boost to max if you so much as breath near the mouse. Its kinda shocking at first but its every x3d model.

Even back on socket 939 when i was overclocking opteron 175, 85C+ was no big deal, it happened they coped fine. Used to hit that even after de lidding the chip & fitting a crazy air cooler - that particular rig was stable for about 5-8yrs running 1Ghz OC, and always on. Ha, still cracks me up now.

Id not overthink those temps. Its perhaps better to overthink about the fact motherboard manufacturers give misleading power stats & run CPU's out of the manufacturers allowed specs - deliberately. Its a very well know practice used to make their product appear 'better performing' and i garantee its the real cause. All the main brands do it though, so GL getting around it. The heat is just a by product of that abuse of specs, so you will hit max temps more on a 'perfomance' board.

I suspect that performance bias setting you altered may have some influence on how badly the mother board abuses the specs, though the manufacturers are cloak and dagger about their abuses so its hard to be sure. Obviously scaler and boost will also effect those abuses of spec.

You can actually observe this in HWINFO, youll notice the power reporting deviation can vary between -70% and +120% on an ASUS / MSI / GIGABYTE. Thats the actual issue with CPU's showing signs of being cooked... Remeber, heat is a symptom of power use, but 85-90C in itself is not a problem even longer term. The materials are designed to cope with that kind of heat. The wrong volatges and amperage absolutely can and wiil damage hardware though; given that is proven to be happening by all gaming board manufacturers, the only rational answer is the damage is a result of being 'unwittingly' run outside of specs. This also correlates with why many people are able to fix stability with minor power tweaks such as LLC4 & an undervolt or overvolt - in some cases permenantly fixing stabilty issues, albeit for some the damage is already done permanantly.

Its akin to finding the max safe core voltage, and adding 0.25 for good measure, then shrugging. They really should know better, we all know better as consumers, even a novice OC'er would rarely be that foolish. Its such an obvious thing that people just tend to trust its done right.

Chip manufacturers also dont always make it easy, some have forwarded incorrect spec ranges to agesa on purpose in the past. When its happening both sides, im not surprised we live in a world where CPU's now set on fire, which actaully happened for a particular model i wont name (it was fixed with a bios update and GN covered it). Actually, do watch his videos on that issue, they went to great lengths to prove the message im passing to you (as well as many other interesting points to note).

You did get incredibly close though to figuring it out (most people have no idea something is off) - and enacted a workaround that does counter the 'running ourside of spec' issue, so well done. Hopefully with this post you can take the info a bit further and maybe (after fact checking me) use your platform to make more people aware of the foul play from ALL makers of boards and chips.

Why not just utilize PBO?

Currently I have a 3600 in my nephew's rig with a stock cooler, but I put kryonaut extreme to hikd down the fort until I have money for more upgrades.

Is the maximum power consumption 65 watts?

yes, also:
Ryzen Master (from AMD), software for any mainboard/motherboard (Windows - that way no need to go into BIOS)
early on I figured out a nice combination setting in it:
set Ryzen Master to Manual
set to 1.2V
set 4200MHz Max
= great performance and never goes over 80C

I put arctic a35 cooler on my 3600 cpu with rx 7600 gpu prefered to have max settings in games to unload cpu little ( too solid gpu for pcu unit) temperature of cpu 52, 55 degree

I have a 3600 paired with a gtx 1070 on a a320 mobo with a thermalright assassin se 120 cpu cooler and it is a good gaming experience

Been using mine for idk, maybe 2/3 years and not a single problem, MSI B550M Bazooka is the motherboard, still stock cooler, yeah sometimes pushes a bunch to 80/90 degrees, but not single problem, been wanting to upgrade to a Ryzen 7 5600X and AMD Radeon 7600XT

Hey, Just to toss in my 2cents. My 3600, will clock up pretty good (4.4Ghz is doable) BUT memory CAN'T BE TOUCHED....even if I manually change it to 2133mhz, it still crashes.

Interesting, got a B550/3600x on the spire cooler and been getting stuttering while gaming and launching applications since swapping out my dead gtx1060 for a newer RTX card and noticed the idel temps on cpu are up to 60c-63c (ruled out sdd thanks to crystaldisk). Definitely gonna check into this when troubleshooting further.

Thank you.

I am about to build with a Ryzen 5 5500, and snagged a Wraith Spire on the cheap. Borrowing a GTX 1060 6GB, I don't expect any heat problems for now.

Also in a large case, a Montech Air 903 Max.

But yeah, I will be careful when I get a modem GPU.

will a 4 pipe cooler ne enough

i have a ryzen 2200g with a rx 6600 gpu ,it a have a bottleneck in many game on average 30% but some game gpu take 100% .With a asus a 320m-k motherboard i'm not sure change cpu with 3600 for vrm weak and now i see in this video temp cpu are a problem too-

I've had mine for 5 years and it's never given me any trouble lol. Had it on factory settings for 2 years aswell before I adjusted it.

I use 3600 with -0,15V for core and SoC (3200MHz RAM) and Enabled PBO with +250MHz and 170W limit, and auto scalar. All is stable, max temp. above 70C (BeQuiet PureRock 2 cooler), max package power ~100W and max freq. are 4300MHz for core 1 and 3, and 4250 for rest. I don't test harder undervolting.

I have 5 3600 and 95c what

Is there any difference between made in china vs made in malaysia ryzen cpus?❤❤❤❤

You should test it with a noctua heatsink cooler

On any somewhat Decent CPU Talking About temps and using the Stock Cooler is completely Pointless,
I mean ONLY Low end CPU's with like Sub 50watt TDP Should be on such coolers.

Would deepcool air cooler be enough for this cpu?

I have a 3600x guess im safu

Laptops are even worse.... They slam against the thermal limits and hit up to 100C then throttles down to maintain 70C

you: R5 3600 2023 is failing
Meanwhile im still using it Sept 2024

My pc went into a BSOD boot loop after doing exactly what you did

I have my PC with the 3600 in it constantly on for over 3 years, and it's still perfectly stable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cooler Master Hyper 212 with two fans clipped on it, one case fan in front of them one case fan behind them

Sorry bro but im gonna spoil the whole point with this video. Dont use stock cooler no need to try,try and try in bios .. just use better cooler or get better cpu

problem with the motherfucker board no doubt

Safe here , 45-65C , all day.

Decent 140mm cooler.
Turbo off , almost silent.

3.6 is really all i need at 70 hz , 1200p stable frames

OFC it did nothing, first you disable it, then you set it to manual but still disabled... one just has to read...

Well add me to pile! Paid $238 Jan 2020 which died in it's sleep 3 nights ago. NEVER OC and ran a Noctua NH-U12S Redux to vent out the back, hate the stock coolers. I got a new $125 5600X and just installed today. Hope this is not a thing with the Ryzen CPUs!

Currently in the process of building myself a ryzen 3700x system and just before watching this I ended up buying a 2 fan tower cooler for it. You've just made me very glad I did. Surely the 3700, 3800, 3900, 3950 etc. are even worse for temps with all those extra cores

Don't use stock cooler for ryzen 3000 series use after market like idcooling tower aircooler or liquid cooler i have this ryzen 5 3600 used idcooling se 224 xt and my temp is low stable.

I had 5 long years of constant memory related bsod's. Nothing worked to fix my problem, except the undervolting shown in this video. I made the changes in the BIOS and now I can finally enjoy my build. I cannot thank you enough.

less than 100 watts package power running 93C during cinebench? lord have mercy what in tarnation is that. i can hit 350Watts package on me 10900k and comfortably sit at 85c

I hit about 81 degree's max, and about 82 watts after 2 cycles of Cinabench. I have A40Pro cooler, B450. It seems like the AMD's cooler isn't good enough and the bios's aren't up to scratch with all the different types of boards. I've had this cpu for like 5 year's now, replaced fx6300

does this apply to the 3600x as well?

Invest in a good cooler. Even under heavy load I have no issues with my 3600, and I do not under volt. I idle in the 30’s low 40’s, and under load stay in the 60’s if the game isn’t very demanding 50’s. Mid/Low 70’s no higher than low 80’s when content creating videos/rendering. Ryzen CPU’s love to run hot, above 95c is cause for concern. I wouldn’t worry too much about it unless you’re consistently hitting high temps and staying there for extended periods of time.

Little bit of confusion in the comments of this video so hopefully I can clear it up here. volt-amps and cooling is what you give a CPU, heat is what you get. No harm can come out of checking your temperatures while you are gaming, and making sure they are, say below 70c. Heat also causes combustion, which is why it's so important to keep it at low as possible in the everyday PC. Ultimately though, on the a320 (without changing our cooling solution), we can reduce these temps by undervolting, and setting in a max temp limit (which also reduces the clock speeds to levels that consume less voltages too).
So I was working more in reverse order in this video. However the video is designed to help people without much knowledge on the subject too.
As for the aggressive voltages, AMD should release a bios update, with the option to select a more conservatively tuned CPU, as we could only really undervolt -.075mv before we reached instability on this setup.