My Apologies to Armored Core Fans

My Apologies to Armored Core Fans

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@seefyodor5033
@seefyodor5033 - 27.08.2024 03:09

It would be fun if you would have a real opinion and not just saying that games are bad or less good, it's fine to be negative on time to time but in every video it just gets depressing

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@liquidreality472
@liquidreality472 - 27.08.2024 03:42

As far as the price is concerned, it cost me less than an hour of work for over 100 hours of entertainment. Seems like a more than fair exchange to me

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@liquidreality472
@liquidreality472 - 27.08.2024 03:56

Call me ignorant to the titles and experience of the people studios are firing, but idk how you can inherently assume that it's a bad thing. Anyone who has worked a job before can tell you there are always people who do not pull their weight. Unless of course, you happen to be one of the people who doesn't realize you are not pulling your own weight.

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@GottKrampf
@GottKrampf - 27.08.2024 04:11

So you understand neither Armored Core, Fromsoft, game development nor much else you talked about. The amount of people you ended up insulting with what allegedly supposed to be an apology is rather impressive. AC6 has probably been one of the most polished launches in years and that alone should show how much time and effort Fromsoft poured into it.

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@snuffles5897
@snuffles5897 - 27.08.2024 04:43

Analyzing Fromsoft's now 30 year game design history by starting with Dark Souls of all things is a bit... flawed to say the least.

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@xx_amongus_xx6987
@xx_amongus_xx6987 - 27.08.2024 04:59

Making Armored Core 6 was easier or more "efficient" than any other Fromsoft game? You say that like they don't copy and paste as much as they can from every previous souls-like game. Armored Core 6 was seemingly built from the ground up in terms of gameplay, it isn't even close to what little they do in the souls series. For Armored Core 6 they couldn't just copy and paste the animations, movement, attacks, assets, weapons, bosses, effects, audio, etc. like they normally do. Armored Core 6 was anything but easy, it was a risk for Fromsoft and it required new ground to be covered rather than just rethreading on a beaten path for the 5th or 6th time.

As a side note, it's weird to call Armored Core 6 out in particular for its reuse of mech 1on1 fights as "cheap" when your favorite game, Elden Ring, does this dozens of times more than Armored Core 6 ever did. Or was fighting the 12th Erd Tree Avatar really that much of an entertaining experience that couldn't be called cheap? The other unique content in Elden Ring does not save it from this flaw, the fact of the matter is they artificially lengthened the game by copy and pasting the same fight a dozen times while the fight didn't even warrant a rematch to begin with. Far lazier than what Fromsoft did with the mechs, because at least their loadouts were changed to give a semblance of care.

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@val17032
@val17032 - 27.08.2024 04:59

I have no input here outside of if you see this - If you ever get an inkling to try the older titles, please do not use AC6 as a metric to base your opinions of the older titles on :)

AC6 is not a 'continuation of imitation of a 2010 series of mech games' - It is significantly closer to something like an entirely new IP with the branding of an existing series attached to it. It's a fun experiment to see From try, but it has little similarities to the sixteen Armored Core entries released before it. If anything, it has a lot more Souls & Sekiro DNA in it than AC...

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@snuffles5897
@snuffles5897 - 27.08.2024 06:18

Okay I actually finished the video and there is so much wrong here I genuinely do not know where to start.
I guess for starters it's important to point out that your contentions that Armored Core VI was "easy to make" and "a fundraising game" reeks of someone who has zero idea how gamedev works. For instance Armored Core VI was in development for around four to five years if we include pre-production, what could they possibly have been fundraising for throughout all this time? If anything wouldn't the 25 million copies of Elden Ring be enough to fund the next five Fromsoft projects? Let alone Shadow of the Erdtree?

Your argument that each Fromsoft game is a direct improvement on the previous up until Elden Ring is also debatable at best in respects to the different things achieved by games such as Dark Souls 1 and 3 but also Sekiro and Bloodborne, and this goes even moreso for Armored Core, a series that has had so many re-envisionings to the point that it's sequels can almost be considered different games, you cannot look at games like Armored Core Last Raven, For Answer, and 6 and mark an absolutely clear line of progression because of how fundamentally different those three games are from one another. This is why I also have issues with you assuming Armored Core VI is the best in the series without at all understanding the greater context of the franchise.

It also seems to me that you're just diametrically opposed to the concept of Armored Core itself considering your odd criticisms of its mission based structure and lack of a Firelink Shrine-esque hub area (another needless Souls comparison). In general your criticisms of the game not having a Dark Souls-esque interconnected world rings odd because that's not at all what Armored Core was ever trying to do, the main gameplay loop of Armored Core is meant to be quick, arcadey missions that test your skill and build in various ways, whether or not VI succeeds at that is up to you but from the looks of it you're judging a fish by how good it is at climbing a tree. It almost sounds like such games are not allowed to exist in (current year) and everygame needs to be vast sprawling open worlds or else they're not worth 60 dollars, as though games like Ace Combat or Devil May Cry cannot exist in today's industry.

Your negative opinion of Miyazaki wanting to take a step back from Elden Ring's scale is also misguided to say the least, if anything that's objectively the best thing the company can do, Elden Ring was great but it's scale especially towards the end felt like a hindrance more than anything else, If From exclusively wanted to make bigger open worlds for the rest of time that would make them no better than the average western AAA studio taking nearly a decade to release huge games that are as shallow as a puddle. In general your opinions towards Fromsoft's output make it seem like you're pigeonholing them into one type of game they're "allowed" to make, as further evidenced by you disregarding all of their games without i-frame dodgerolls.

I know I'm coming off as harsh here but all of these arguments were annoying at best, this is by no means a thorough defense of Armored Core VI as I myself have massive problems with the game, and it would be one thing if you were simply critiquing it based off your tastes but it just seems like you're speaking from a position of entitlement more than anything else, maybe try playing a game that came out before Demon's Souls for a change and actually expand your palette instead of reducing an entire franchise to "cheap fundraising".

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@Uthandol
@Uthandol - 27.08.2024 07:51

you are entitled to your opinion but saying ac6 was fundraising is fracking nuts. you are one of the few that thought this but you act as its fact,

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@steelerman3
@steelerman3 - 27.08.2024 10:26

New juice video lets gooooo

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@acherontiaatropos6048
@acherontiaatropos6048 - 27.08.2024 14:43

AC6 is my favorite fromsoft game since Sekiro.

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@goatsblood9559
@goatsblood9559 - 28.08.2024 02:28

Hay boss. Im not smart enough to provide constructive criticism on your constructive criticism, so ill just respectfully say, im not a big fan of a lot of what you had to say about ac6. Especially the whole interconnected world/open world part. My man i am dead sick and tired of open world games. I work for a living and do not have the time/attention span to complete these open world games. I love the linear mission design. Its nice and simple for my simple smooth brain. That is all

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@Anomandaris_Rake
@Anomandaris_Rake - 28.08.2024 10:09

My n-word, you are simply an r-worded f-slur. It is what it is.

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@ЯрославЛинин
@ЯрославЛинин - 28.08.2024 11:40

Nah. AC 6 is literally one of the worst Armored Core entries. It went to charachter action model from arcady mech simulator and did it poorly

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@deadair101101
@deadair101101 - 28.08.2024 12:22

It’s really funny that Fromsoft pandered to people into Souls but still didn’t get everyone, kinda ironic. Leaving some existing fans disappointed on both sides. 6 was a huge disappointment in mechanics and customization compared to the past games as well so that is funny.

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@hullstar242
@hullstar242 - 28.08.2024 19:22

Calling any video game at all “easy to make” is incredibly stupid lmao

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@UnbiasedTobias
@UnbiasedTobias - 29.08.2024 01:52

The entire series look incredibly dull. This was definitely targeted towards the "Steven Q Urkel" type of crowd!

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@YeOldeMachina
@YeOldeMachina - 29.08.2024 02:43

Welp, there's at least 2 of us. I also have DS1 at the bottom of my list... but i absolutely adoreAC6. I almost didn't even buy it because i'm not into mechs, and it ended up climbing higher on my list than some souls games. I think AC6 was deliberately kept very simple because From wasn't sure how much it would sell. It's a really risky title from their POV and the budget and resources used were most likely very conservative.

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@Conzort_1
@Conzort_1 - 29.08.2024 02:57

Being one of 5 people to ever have the take you do on the named pieces in this video, doesn't make the statements given any weight or bearing.
Within the 1st 3min. of this video, it was apparent you lack research. This video has no holistic understanding of what FromSoft is about - you haven't done your homework.
Please take the time to learn the facts before speaking.
Your opinion is welcome, but loses credibility when it stands on air.
Simply because you read the wiki details on timeline and surface level team-name skimming, doesn't make it full of substance.
Just because you name drop, doesn't give weight.

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@eoin1272
@eoin1272 - 29.08.2024 04:53

This reeks of incompetence, both in terms of understanding the game, the basics of game development and the genre itself. This video is disgraceful to the developers who did honest work to get where they are - from a twat who barely did his research.

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@One_Without_Light
@One_Without_Light - 29.08.2024 10:02

Armored Core VI might come cheap, but I assure you, your mom comes cheaper. Sorry if she walking funny for a few days.

Your analysis was incredibly short-sighted. Armored Core wasn't intended to be "another souls-like" that From released in between major Dark Souls (Elden Ring) titles. It's a mech game for.... (gasping like your mom).... people who like mech games. Perhaps for people that enjoy mech games and/or previous AC games even more so than Souls games. (Yes, that can actually happen.) I can respect that this game isn't for you, but your attempt at sounding like you have any real perspective for critiquing the game comes off as sophomoric and misguided at best. You have no real ground to stand on for understanding if this game even hits the mark or not for what it was trying to be. You should probably stick your own sandbox for now, but Gold Star for effort!!! 💫

Oh and can you let your mom know I called? Thanks. 💌

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@DionPanday
@DionPanday - 29.08.2024 12:57

Zanzibart…. forgive me

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@gbgmacalicious
@gbgmacalicious - 29.08.2024 13:43

Crazy I clicked on expecting a hundred thousand plus subs but see 4 k. Insane that no one appreciates objectivity nowadays, it’s what separates mediocrity from excellence. Keep up the great work dude, if you have a discord or anything please let me know I’d love to join!

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@hare75
@hare75 - 29.08.2024 13:49

IMO, armored core 6 is the most polished and almost perfect fromsoft games ever made, the story, dialogues, game design, performance, combat, enemy variety, multiple endings, replayability, almost everything was so good

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@HeyTarnished
@HeyTarnished - 29.08.2024 16:56

This guy went downhill since his Shadow of the Erdtree disappointment video. So much I disagree & find weird in terms of how you approach your evaluation of games & how you reach to your conclusions. But keep doing the videos, and we're here to criticize your criticism if something awry arises.

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@makochama0
@makochama0 - 31.08.2024 05:22

4Answer is honestly better, which is sad because that makes 2 entries in the series since they lost their way with it.

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@Anteater11037
@Anteater11037 - 31.08.2024 07:43

I hate to say this, but L take...

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@soullordbr6183
@soullordbr6183 - 01.09.2024 14:08

This man is delusional

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@malicent2705
@malicent2705 - 03.09.2024 00:01

ds3 is not that great imo

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@christianbaker3564
@christianbaker3564 - 03.09.2024 02:21

Your ability to trigger the From Cult never fails to entertain😂. Also From Cult: git gut at social interactions. Yall act like smelly basement dwelling gamers who haven't ever touched a boob. It's sad.

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@Jayy997
@Jayy997 - 05.09.2024 11:02

Never have I heard someone be so self-assured and articulate while spouting absolute nonsense and misguided opinions.

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@BigIsaac91
@BigIsaac91 - 05.09.2024 14:34

Fromsoft wanting to step away from ER-sized projects is a genuinely fantastic thing. From the start, Elden Ring's world was far too large for the amount of worthwhile, unique content they were able to put in it. Hence why the vast majority of bosses get re-used several times, why so many of the mini dungeons share the same themes, and why so many of the rewards are useless crap like cookbooks and outclassed spirit ashes.
For every genuinely great discovery the world provided, like the eternal cities, there were a dozen copy-pasted catacombs and miles of pointless commute on horseback.

If the next souls-like game goes back to a scale similar to DS3, I'll be there with bells on (well, assuming they also fix the boss design, but that's a different subject)

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@AvErrrYYY
@AvErrrYYY - 05.09.2024 17:22

Wack ass vid. This would be like criticizing a mario game because it doesn't use a lot of ideas from zelda games. just because they are made by the same company doesn't mean they are supposed to be comparable. This game doesn't say dark souls in the name, I have no clue where you got the idea that it would be just like the souls games. you were never going to think this game is good because you didn't want to play armored core, you wanted to play dark souls.

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@Stanzbey69
@Stanzbey69 - 15.09.2024 11:09

I mean, i don’t think anyone ever took you seriously in that entire critique, so there’s that.

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@coldfire2753
@coldfire2753 - 26.09.2024 17:17

"Armored Core 6 was fundraising project and it was easy to make"

Annnd that right there is why nobody should take this video seriously. The gall to say something so stupid with so much confidence is amazing.

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@purpleboye_
@purpleboye_ - 11.10.2024 09:19

I agree with all your criticisms and somehow this is still one of my top 5 favorite games

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@ellbeeyt
@ellbeeyt - 13.10.2024 05:06

More homework needed to be done here.

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@stewpidaso1024
@stewpidaso1024 - 05.11.2024 23:49

Ac6 is from softwares 2nd best game, after sekiro . I've played and beaten all their games ac6 is the only one I picked up after completing it. I beat three times causes that's what was intended. Ac6 is a masterpiece imo

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@hunkymccree8458
@hunkymccree8458 - 09.11.2024 17:34

a lot of this argument stems from "it not the knight game im used to" as someone who has played elden ring and most of the AC series, it's just really silly to expect anything similar in gameplay. the hell does "Easy to make" even mean in this context?? Game development isnt an easy bake oven and you should know that much. It bothered me that you called the missions "world sections as missions" its almost as if you got immersed in the world but chose to make an excuse why not to like it. and complaining about oversaturated meta builds doesnt make sense either when you can just...not use them and experiment? Try out how certain weapons or parts work in missions? you werent forced to commit to a certain archetype like you spent stats in magic and gotta be a wizard now. so yeah thanks for the apology.

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@mysticjuice3363
@mysticjuice3363 - 25.11.2024 06:09

Please just quit you’re not going to make it

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@Dattobayo
@Dattobayo - 10.12.2024 00:10

Many good points relating to reused content, but a lot of the criticism feels like you simply didn't like it because its fundamentally not a souls game.

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@jethrodark2372
@jethrodark2372 - 14.12.2024 16:20

I love AC, one of my favorite IPs. I hope we get DLC for AC6 or at the very least don't have to wait another 10years for another AC game.

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@larsen7249
@larsen7249 - 31.12.2024 17:54

never let s*uls fans make videos on anything outside of s*uls

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@pratikchakravorty983
@pratikchakravorty983 - 02.01.2025 18:43

AC 6 was not a fundraising project you clown it was in development since 2018 make videos with proper research and analysis and if you can't then stop making them this is a terrible video

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@hatedfollower
@hatedfollower - 21.01.2025 22:31

You are the biggest douchebag I’ve ever heard speak in the FromSoft community.

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@notlunaticdancer4393
@notlunaticdancer4393 - 18.02.2025 14:25

"Minecraft is an easy game to make" lmao alright, I've been letting some goofier takes slide but this one is hilarious. Just try and optimize the combined mesh voxel renderer or replicate Minecraft's world generation, then come back to say it was easy again. I mostly agreed with your Sekiro deflect video, but watching your other videos, sometimes you randomly spout the dumbest things. At least it's good background noise while I work.

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@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 - 20.02.2025 14:10

Everyone knows this guys a phony right? Serious or not. 😂😂😂

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@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 - 20.02.2025 14:14

31 min of slop.

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@Vman_95
@Vman_95 - 19.03.2025 22:36

Why woud they make Armoured Core as fund raiser to get more resources for Elden Ring DLC? Elden Ring already made huge profits 😅

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@AlexAndriy1995
@AlexAndriy1995 - 24.04.2025 06:01

Ds1 is better then Ds2 and Sekiro is beter then Elden, so your idea of from improvement is wierd

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