Alien Romulus Plot Holes Are Worse Than I Thought

How many times are you going to rename this video? This is like the 3rd time... that I've noticed.

Just back from cinema....
Worst alien ever.
Im 57 years old alien fan but this is junk....

I will never understand the blind praise im hearing for Romulus. Everyone is praising Romulus for exact same issues that they constantly trash Prometheus and Covenant.

The characters are flat and forgettable. The writing for them is nonexistent most of the time. The acting is completely dispassionate... or talentless, however you want to look at it.

The fan service is completely inappropriate for a serious Alien film. Not even Resurrection stooped so low as to directly quote better, better movies in the franchise. As a fan, the "Get away from her you b****" line was completely insulting. How or why would they try to cheapen Ripleys glorious moment in Aliens??

This is how i rank the franchise:

Aliens 10/10
Alien 9.5/10
Prometheus 8/10
Alien Covenant 7/10
Alien Resurrection 6.5/10
AVP 6/10
Alien Romulus 6/10


Alien 3 2/10
AVP: Requiem 1/10

The dumbest scenes ever was adding this hybrid, ruined the movie!!! 😂😂😂Romulus was NOT GOOD. Too much action at the end and the HYBRID looked silly. Last scenes were stupid 🤡🤡👎👎👎 huge disappointment

About why the Xenomorph didn't kill Rain, if I remember right, in that scene there are cutaways where the camera shows a facehugger slowly climbing out toward Rain as well. It's a pretty quick cut, but that to me implies the Xeno was holding her there until the facehugger could make its move.

Alien Romulus 👎🏿

Simply put, Alien Romulus felt like a high-budget fan movie made by a competent film school student, which does a good job overall but doesn't have anything original to say or is capable of writing an interesting original story. The charators of the Romulus was not interesting, to put it lightly. It's like what the recent Star Wars movies and TV shows made by Disney feels like.

Couldn't the lack of the ovomorphs be explained by the fact that this whole station was a research facility with top of the top equipment, scientists and technology? While David esentially worked in a cave

The plot armor was stronger than the great wall of China

Other than the practical effects this film was terrible.

there's a few things that i don't understand and it makes my brain go brrrrr. like, when they first arrived and saw big chap hanging corpse... how did it die? it wasnt from a puncture of any kind bc it was hanging from cables and debris, it'd have melted and it would have fallen. how did they killed it yet we don't see any other xenomorph corpse throughout the movie, only big chap?
next question: the ship had freezing temperatures which they elevated, causing the facehuggers to defrozen and come back to life, right at the beginning minutes. now hold that thought. it takes a while for us to find any other xenomorph other than the one spawned from the lady, which happens when they find the hive. alright. got me thinking... the xenos were clearly looking for a way to reproduce, why didn't they have a queen yet? maybe they did? i wonder. but another point is how long it takes for the other xenos to be introduced, why? let's say they were all hibernating in the cold temperatures just like the facehuggers... it has been a while since the temperatures were back up, why didn't they come looking for the humans, instead the humans went inside their lair and found them, just waiting for their visit? i feel like they should have shown up sooner and that's a bit odd.
and why the hell there was an abandoned ship holding cargo that dangerous and precious to the company orbiting a colony (from the company in question) with no explanations? like, let's just place it there and somehow instead of the company it will be a bunch of kids who'll find it first. the hell
another thing, the girl who gestated the chestbuster at first found the xray device, played with it and was seen using it at first. when they came to the point of deciding if she was carrying or not the alien, why couldn't they just use it? i understand if she forgot bc she was freaking out, but another girl saw her using it. like, it could just be resolved in a matter of seconds, no need to lock your buddies outside your ship with a hundred aliens wanting to impregnate them. nooooo way dude!!
the black goo being used as this vehicle which allows them to use it for whatever purpose without properly establishing rules and nerfing it so it'd look more realistic and logical... nah. yes, it was a compound engineered and modified by the company, still, it shouldn't be used as this plot device to allow whatever to happen.
one thing i have to mention is how fast the xenomorph grows, not only it, but also the offspring. it makes no sense compared to the previous movies, really. it bothers me a little bit.
i don't mind the quotes and scenes being inspired or directly copied from other movies from the franchise, it was a nice familiar touch, a bit overused, but i didn't like how the characters were written overall (i know they are young, but the writing looked lazy in their characterization, like the annoying cousin, the romantic interest, etc, even the protagonist herself wasn't exactly a strong female character with a sense of purpose and a clear mind, it seemed she was just surviving by) and these plot holes that i can't seem to find an answer to. anyone? i'd appreciate some help
that being said, i did enjoy the movie and the offspring was my favorite part!

At the moment I am wishing more for an Engineer lore continuation than for a continuation of Alien. I actually liked Romulus. But it's in the nature of things that I gets repetitive from here on out. It's the same creature lurking the same way, breeding the same way, attacking the same way - of course scenes will look similar. But I still don't know what the original engineer home planet looks like, what technological capabilities they have, why they seed life, why they abandoned their creations on planet 4 but left a ship harbor there etc.

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I think bringing back the first alien was such a nice move and I don’t think at all it nullifies Ellen ripley’s victory on the creature! She survived, that’s her victory! She didn’t have any weapon to kill such creature and she knew! That’s why she tried to shoot them out in the space!
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I don’t think that Romulus copies scenes from the other films! It’s just Easter eggs and tributes to the original franchise! Romulus it’s actually a really original movie and it doesn’t deserve this negative review just because you wanted something different to be shown.
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The fact that u didn’t know that the android was not ash but another version of him, upgraded, it’s just silly lol they used to do them all looking the same so it’s perfectly fine to me that a scientific android looked like another scientific android 😅
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Why is it strange that they managed to create facehuggers without eggs if we saw the same thing done by one android (David) without any equipment in a previous film(at the end he clearly has them without eggs)? I think a whole crew of scientists and a scientific droid could also do that if properly equipped lol
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You complain on how faster they grow forgetting they they are a lab version and they could have been influenced by it! Maybe they modified that by accident?
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It is not important to know how they exactly reproduced the black gu since none of the protagonist are scientists and they wouldn’t understand anything! The explanation the android gave it’s enough for us to know what it is. Knowing more on that it’s just useless for the story itself! You want everything explained but it would also take off the fun of thinking and “speculating” on theories!
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Again, you talk about scenes copied ahahah these are just tributes to the original franchise! I can agree with you just on the weapons and the aim assist lol that’s the only strange thing I noticed.
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How can ripley copy handy if they actually never met AhahH!! Again, these similarities are just tributes to fans of the franchise! They should help to see the film as part of the same franchise, to recreate the same atmosphere! It is actually really original and a love message to the alien films.

In conclusion, I don’t see any plot holes…I actually see people not happy with anything these days! Just appreciate a good film (and the fact that it performed so well it’s a clear message that it is really good) and stop making up things just to bring it down.
I really love that they managed to create such a good film after all the negative responses they had for the previous ones!

if we take this movie as a fanservice mix and not a serious movie than its good. The only problem is the last decent Alien movie was Prometheus 2012 since that trash Covenant is not canon.
a fanservice movie NEXT TO serious ones are acceptable, but INSTEAD OF, is not.
ITS TIME TO FKING CONTINUE PROMETHEUS

What made the first 3 Alien movies classics is cause it follows the foundation that Ridley Scott had set in the beginning and those are: Mystery, keeping the creature hidden which brings out the fear of the unknown, creating something new that no one has seen before with the main focus was on the Alien and less on characters and environment. That's how you draw in audiences. Alien Romulus is purely and simply recycled trash.

It’s a terrible movie. I will still have faith that one day there will be a good one again. They were kinda, sorta.. just a bit close. Just a bit.

They just keep replaying the same old things with different and new characters never explaining what we really want to know.

1. Ripley’s accomplishment was not “diminished” sorry but that’s just complaining and finding a reason to hate on something. Ripley didn’t have to KILL the xenomorph to be a badass. She was a survivor because she was quick on her feet and used her brain to shoot big chap out into space. And to assume she killed an alien by shooting it into space is just crazy. I always assumed it survived somehow because it was still in one piece. It could have landed somewhere else in the vast space. cmon now.
2. The scientists were able to print facehuggers without eggs, which was a new concept but you still wanna complain after criticizing the film for “rehashing” and not having any original ideas. You said this undermines the xeno lifecycle? like what?? Okay…it’s still a new concept that works. And David was 1 person that learned how to make eggs. You think Weyland-Yutani can’t use technology to create facehuggers without eggs? Another poor complaint.
3. The chestburster is formed quicker than the other alien movies…Oh look another new concept, but again with the complaining. Maybe WY was able to make more advanced facehuggers with accelerated pregnancies? Not to mention that the facehuggers in romulus are not the same from other movies. They are more advanced and aggressive. Another nothing burger of whining. Next.
4. It’s implied that the xenomorph caught Rain because it wanted the facehugger to capture her. She is smart and a survivor so she is a good potential host. You can clearly see the facehugger appear if you paid attention to the movie.
5. Rook is a robot and the same synthetic as Ash so their vocabulary can be similar. And Bjorn kept calling Andy the B word which is why he finally said it. They could have done without it, but it’s not terrible.

1. I'm fine with it cause i think it adds to the idea that the Alien is the "perfect organism". I always had the headcanon that aliens can survive in the vacuum of space so this wasn't anything weird to me. So i always assumed big chap survived. The movie made it interesting tho by having the alien create a cocoon to hibernate in, which i find cool.

2. Overall i do agree the movie copied too much from previous movies. Ironically me being a fan made the movie a bit worse since it felt like it lacked originality. Everything was too familiar and predictable from the mid-point onwards.

2.a) Imo think the presence of water can be explain in the facehugger scene. Perhaps it was a leak from the cryo tanks or like in A2 maybe the fire alarm was activated which flooded the room

3. That's a good point which i didn't realize until watching your video. The lack of the Ovomorph is strange and even stranger is how quickly they were able to recreate the facehugger when David wasn't able to do so. On the other hand, David was limited since the pathogen didn't react well with the surviving life of the planet 16EG14.

3. a) The black goo being there can be inferred imo. We know the facehugger's "Plagiarus praepotens" basically works like the black goo in the sense it rewrites the host's DNA to create the chestburster. So i don't think it's odd to assume that by harvesting this from the facehuggers they were able to synthesize some very close to the black goo.

4/5. I agree they overdid it with the copied scenes, which goes back to what i said in #2. It lessened the movie for me since it felt like they wanted to fit in all these references any way possible. They could've done Andy's scene with just him saying "get away from her" as any fan would've understood it without him saying a curse word and feeling out of character.

Most of the Audience(Mass) don't want to see study like storyline they just want entertainment like aliens , predator, AVP . so Prometheus and Alien covenant is not liked by masses, for them it feels like A cinematic Documentry, Study . Maybe that's why for Romulus Ridley Scott and his team thought to produce an alien film with some previous shots and elements to make audience feel nostalgic, Lil bit of gun action , shocking and horror elements in last part. Which made it hit ! When someone goes in theatres he/she expects that next 2 hours should make them feel all Human emotions, thrill action, shock, comic relief , so they don't want to watch study history ,biology again in theatres also which they have done in schools and colleges. So there's always more chances that most peoples will like to choose Romulus over Prometheus/ Covenant !

This is an Alien movie for all those gore&horror addicted weenies who whined about the lack of xxxmorphs in Prometheus and Covenant. This is an Alien movie for all those corporate, bottom-line driven "shirts" who saw all that money they forked out for this "golden goose" franchise being blown out the airlock because of the displeasure of the aforementioned weenies. This is an Alien movie that raises it's middle finger to those listed above and says, "STFU!" and let us get on with the story." This movie is the way it is for a lot of reasons beyond the story-line.

The time line is confused . How can you bring back something that has not happened yet? The big black Alien most have traveled back in time . Yea bull shit by any-other name .

They kind of s*** the bed on this one. The hybrid was a cool addition but that's about it. I'm not sure how to feel when they bring dead actors back either.

Flop! First 15-20 minutes could have been deleted. I thought I was watching Blade Runner. It seemed like these nerd kids were going on joy ride, and got meh more then they anticipated, a meh version of Alien redux. Loved the Fresh Seal face huggers. I anticipated the human alien thing. The shot of it walking was cartoonish. To quote Ridley Scott, "It's fuckin' awful."

It's okay, the real value of the alien movies is in being source material for Kroft videos anyway.

I thought the water in the face hugger room came from how everything was being kept on ice until they accidentally turned off the cooling system. Some of this feels like seeking out flaws just to complain about something which is weird from the guy who loves Prometheus and Covenant more than anyone. I personally have a hard time ranking the films because I enjoy all of them but I still think this one was the best since the original four.

I wanna touch base on two things. First being the face huggers not coming out of the eggs and how David had been unable to achieve that over decades. In the end he put two face hugger embryos not ovomorph embryos in the container, so it is possible that he achieved that. Second, the big chap feels like a nod to the Out of the Shadow book trilogy. In those books during periods in which there are no food sources the aliens essentially enter a hibernation state similar to what is pictured in this movie. I would really like to see that book trilogy come to screen one day. The way it talks about the hive mind and memories being passed down from generations feels like it could make a very intriguing movie.

Disney has done to Alien the same it did to Star Wars, lacked total creativity, originality, regorgitated old formulas, undermined the past. Those people really are Sobs... Not fun at all to see them acquire consecrated movie franchises just to make them mediocre.

Bro doesn't know what fan service references are. 😅

HUGE fan of your channel, but I will say that I don't actually see any of these things as plot holes (except the guns). Shoehorned overuse of existing tropes though, yes, definitely. And CG ash was an abomination -- really wish they had not included that OR they had just made a physical prop that was more damaged. I'm still not certain what my verdict is on romulus. I just hope they get back to David in the next movie.

Star wars - alien mixed with teenagers. But it was not horrible

It's not a bad movie. It doesn't have any deep philosophical questions about the meaning of life. No moody androids playing the flute and talking about their feelings. It's just xenomorphs having a great time and some plucky teens having a terrible one.

My biggest problem with it was that the xenomorph's behavior really changed towards the middle of the film. They start out seemingly intelligent and patient. Then they start acting more like David's creations, charging at anything, and being too stupid to live. The zero gravity scene was fun but a bit unbelievable. The ship turned off the gravity regularly, and the xenos would have been used to it. They would not have just floated around helplessly.

I rewatched Alien before watching Romules. I'm glad I did. I wouldn't have remembered any of the Easter eggs in the new movie. I love all your breakdowns so this one disappointed me a little. I thought this was the best addition to the alien world besides the peometheus movies.

Getting real tired of the inconsistent growth cycle.

It’s called homage!!!! 😝

Kroft. I love your videos but this was a terrible take.

Can someone tell me the name of that background music used in this video

All of your complaints are explained in the movie, this channel is just ragebait doomer takes lol

nah

First aliens are afraid of the gun and next minute they run straight to it like bunch of idiots.

Far from ruined. This film was fantastic and put a lot of people back onto the Alien Franchise. My 19 Yr old had never seen any Alien movie but went to see this movie twice as I did. Why can't you just enjoy the movie for what it brings and what it is? Why pick it apart? I couldn't give a damn about whether it borrows from here or there because nearly all films do that as do books and music and pretty much anything else in life. I want more Alien films, I want more stories from that world. I not interested in AI either. The franchises are about Aliens not bloody robots! Come on man, just enjoy it.

This guy's complaining that attack scenes look the same as the earlier films... Most lion and shark attacks for the last several thousand years are probably similar too ;)

So this movie takes place after first Alien movie but before Aliens.
So how did the company knew what the happened at the Nostromo?
How did Rook knew that Ripley was the only survivor of the Nostromo and that she sucked Big Chap out of the airlock?
They haven't found Ripley' vessel so they couldn't have known that yet.

Alien Romulus definitely sucks that movie is so trash it literally undermines everything that is alien. First if nostromo blew up wait it didn’t all the way I guess idk. Then i guess you can remove facehuggers by freezing them yet in covenant a facehugger literally spat out acid while being removed. If WY has proof and research on big chap aliens alien 3 and resurrection shouldn’t be apart of the timeline. WY just gone blame Ripley for something that they have proof of they literally have the fawking alien it’s no need for any other movie literally

Btw Rook isn't actually the same synthetic as Ash from the Nostromo just the same model which is why he looks the same.

I thought big chap was dying towards the end of alien 1979.

I’ll probably ruffle some feathers, but Romulus has a lot of problems. It’s not a terrible movie, but it does bog itself down. For one, yes it was kinda left unclear for a long time whether the original xenomorph died, but how they brought it back was very flawed. So, it survives being impaled, burned from a propulsion engine, and the vacuum of space, just to be killed by quite mundane means (as shown in a prequel comic)? Okay… The cocoon idea is interesting, but it was poorly utilized. A better idea would have been for the xenomorph to cocoon itself to heal and preserve itself. Once found and awakened, the movie would follow the Weyland-Yutani station and its crew now being the original xenomorph’s new victims. Yes, it would be a rehash of sorts, but it would bring back the alien and allow the implementation of a couple new ideas in a more fulfilling way. Very familiar but good. Secondly, the idea of genetic printing face-huggers. While it sounds plausible, it does undermine the movie Aliens a little in that it makes breeding xenomorphs rather “easy” as all you need is some xenomorph DNA versus the dangerous task of acquiring natural eggs/facehuggers. The idea works better if placed after Aliens as finding xenomorphs is made difficult with the devastation of LV-426. The idea of natural effectiveness versus availability. Finally, paying homage to your previous movies with a line or clue/idea here and there is fine. But if it is overdone, then it more so comes off as unoriginal and baiting for pure nostalgia.

This is so bs lol,sure the movie is not perfect and had plot holes but just little plot holes that most movie had if you complains about everything

The worse example of the copied lines and scenes was the recording at the end - she makes a audio log for no one in particular confessing to the crimes she was just involved in, just so they can copy a line that's now iconic for the original Alien. Both dumb and pointless.

Kroft you need to pipe down a little bit, a lot of things are missing cause movie duration is not 6 hours but around 1 hour and 45 minutes.