"What is that ring on a K31 Swiss bolt for?" Iraqveteran8888 K-31

Another great video.

my granddad and my father used the schmidt-rubin k-31, it is a very accurate carbine. but the recoil... hmm...

Ive been enamored by this rifle for years and just haven't gotten around to buying one. Beautiful, Beautiful, Beautiful.

Well I knew about the seafty feature, but the recooking, have to try it at grandpas old peice

I used to have one of these rifles, and occasionally the ammo would fail to go off. I did just this: pulled the ring back and tried again. It usually worked the second time. It's a lot better than aiming downrange for 30 seconds in case the round still goes off. I really like these rifles. The only thing I *didn't* like about it was that the recoil kicked like a horse!

Wie blöd muss man sein.... das man das so erklären muss? Oder anders gefragt: Warum erklärt ihr Sinnhaftigkeit die sich selbst erklärt ( in dem Wort für Legasteniker) in nem Video? Naja, lass die Frage mal offen...

Und... Veteran8888... 1. Man klatscht nicht auf das Schloß des Karabiners wie auf euer Bech M16 sondern schließt das ganze mit einer Bewegung! 2. Nein, die Größe des Ringes bezieht sicht NICHT auf das Tragen von Handschuhen SONDERN auf die Zweckmäßigkeitkeit eine Größe zu bestimmen die ALLEN Anforderungen gerecht wird!!!! So nun übersetzt mal, damit du es verstehen kannst... Gruß aus der Schweiz, Ami!

saw one of these in like orgasmic condition "spotless" for 269 is that like a good deal? also watched ur mosin videos i saw one m38 in eh con. but it was 90 also a mosin "dont remeber the model but it was the dragoon edition" for 117 the drag came with 840 round i mean are those like good deals because im thinking of picking all 3

@mmaTAPOUTfighter Only thing dry firing is really going to hurt is a rimfire. I still prefer not to, but it's not gonna damage anything with this rifle. With rimfire rifles though, it slams the firing pin into the edge of the barrel.

fantastic looking gun, good explaination i was wondering why that was there! But just one question.. it that your room? lol

a smart design.

yr fuckin out kenny powers

is ammo affordable for these guns..i am planning on getting one but i dont want another odd ball round to buy and its expensive...thank you

@tytan01 Rechambered for 308? Have a gunsmith be sure of that.

@TristanGoins Except you have to use a mule to pull that nob back and turn it.

@BATTLEDROID678 My grandfather has one. He's Swiss, and used one in World War Two. It's in wonderful condition. There's no such thing as Swiss, by the way; there's Swiss French, Swiss German, Swiss Italian, and Romansh (which is basically a variant of Latin.)

@tytan01 Might want to have that double checked. I know its been done in the past but the 7.5X55 is quite the .308 winchesters equal. I do not know of, nor have I ever seen any modified in this way. Ammo availability is the ONLY gain in doing so and since most people interested in the K31s seem to be reloaders it is money better spent to reload for it and buy a .308 if you want a .308. My point is, the rounds are very similar so dont destroy your weapon by trying to use the wrong ammo.

how much does a k31 cost im looking for one

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but the reason they went with the ring design is so you could operate it with gloves in cold weather.

@tovarishchS he may have owned one during world war two but the swiss didnt fight in world war two

This is a very good rifle.

@ScorpyEmp21 yeah I know, so why would he attack one of the strongest armies in the world? He was scared. He knew he couldnt defeat them. Same reason Hitler didnt attack the U.S. Second: umm SWITZERLAND, not switserland, Was surrounded by germany, italy, france, and Austria. Germany and Italy were allies and they sacked france and owned austria. So it was a very UNstrategic place not to own. Now you are correct, he knew he couldnt defeat them but owning that land right in the mntns is an advant

Thats clever!!

@Iraqveteran8888 Then Why do you suppose the operation manual of all firearms includes a section on not dry firing? The firing pin has a shoulder that contacts a machined surface inside the breech block to control protrusion length. Dry firing without a snap cap or primer for the firing pin to impact can and will stretch this section of the firing pin to the point of failure. Older firearms are more susceptible to this because of heating treatment variables. Dry firing is a bad habit on any gun.

@GunBroker100 That should have been Heat treatment variables. Sorry, don't want the typo police to have a cow.

Switzerland is awesome.

With the ring in the safety position, you can still engage a cartridge. Just press a little bit on the left of the ring and you can pull it. I'm sure you knew, just in case. I didn't watch all your videos about the k31 but I appreciate you work.

Really? Huh, then by all means dry fire away. And when the tip breaks off the firing pin, remember, "it's okay to dry fire". Playing with a gun, dry firing, is a bad habit to get into to. S&W and Colt revolvers with hammer mounted firing pins were notorious for breaking if played with, dry fired. Perhaps the makers have dropped this warning, after all, after a few hundred years, some things should be common knowledge. I've been repairing and building guns over forty years, I don't dry fire.

The only problem with statements saying "every one" or "all" is that they are almost always wrong. I'm not disagreeing with you the MOST firearms should not be dry fired. But I know for a fact that I have two that are absolutely safe to dry fire... And they are both rimfires. Both my 1827F biathlon rifle and 2007/2013 supermatch are absolutely safe to dry fire with no ill effects to the rifle at all (per the manual)

In more than forty years as a gun smith and custom fire arm builder I can say with confidence rim fire arms, unless this design is completely different than any other rim fire in the last 100 years, should never be dry fired. Think about the design The firing pin strikes the rim of the case, absent the case what does it strike? The very hard steel of the chamber mouth. Flattening of the pin profile occurs as it does so. occasional dry firing maybe, but I doubt they mean repeatedly.

That's the thing. They ARE designed to. The firing pin does not protrude far enough out to allow it to strike the breach face. They are designed to take repeated firing without anything in the chamber. That is how a lot of biathlon shooters train. We mimic the actions of firing (full cycle) over and over and over again. It has to be so practiced that it is instinctual.

During the height of my training, when concentrating on the shooting line. I would fire the first round, and not even think about cycling the action, it just happened. They design the rifles to handle it.

That doesn't mean that ALL rimfires (or even most) are designed to handle it. In fact, as you said. Almost all rimfires will be damaged. But the point is that that it is more of a general rule of thumb, not a firearm certainty

Okay, so it has a shouldered firing pin, coincidentally like that of center fire, to control protrusion. So you are relying on "muscle memory" to mount and fire your rifle? I suppose this would work in the short ranges of a .22. It doesn't however give any point of reference as to if you are on target. That requires live rounds. Ammo performance changes from lot to lot. So how does this compensate for that? Firing five, 5 shot groups from 5 different lots of ammo, will yield 5 different groups.

Yes, muscle memory is what the practice is for (not for lining up the target). The reason for the practice isn't for the aiming and firing. It is to train yourself to instinctual cycle the action after you fire. So after you fire your brain just does what it was trained to do. Then before you know it, you are right back on target. Most of the time i was already sighting in the next target without even thinking about cycling the action. That allowed me more time on lining up my next shot

nvm

What are these rifles going for now? I'm having trouble finding them online.

Any of you guys looking for somebody fluent in both English and German (including swiss german), just message me :)

Who gave you that impression? Sure, it's very difficult to get citizenship here, but there's lots of Americans and other foreigners who live around here. As to middle class hate, I've never seen anyone who looks down on the middle class, seeing as the majority of people here are around that income level. But, it's true. Our gun policies are pretty sweet lol

Been reading about it and you probably have the most gun friendly laws next to the US, and definitely the most in Europe. To clarify, handguns and semi auto rifles of any caliber and any magazine size are legal, right?

Well, @desertfox2020, if I am honest, I haven't informed myself very extensively on Swiss gun laws, but my impression is that you are right. Gun laws are very friendly here, and I have never heard of any ridiculous magazine bans over here. Plus, consider that you often see Swiss soldiers--ordinary Swiss men like me, walking around train stations with their full-auto SIG 550/551 series rifles. Later you are offered the chance to own that rifle after semi-auto conversion. Gun friendly much?

Looking at the bolt handle I remember seeing one in a shop a few years ago. I didn't know what it was though. lol.

Neat. I figured the recocking option (and also the Swiss Alps = gloves = nice big ring please), but the safety I didn't know. Clever design!

Always wondered about that..nice design, you should make it a pump so you don't have to remove any hands, much quicker.

Oh, almost exactly like a Lee-Enfield. But better.

Cock knob ?

Bad round!? We're talking about the Swiss here. Even their ammo is like a fine watch.

Just found this video. Very old.
I knew what it was for, generally. I'm looking for the name as part of a only slightly larger "rabbit hole" that I'm going down over some fresh coffee early on a Sunday morning. Maybe Numrich.

Hey bro stop fingering that hole ur making me bonerific

I just know it as a safety and I would only use it as a safety, why would you wanna cock your gun that was and why woulf you recock after a bad round that sounds dangerous