Margaret Gives Elizabeth A Taste of Her Own Medicine | The Crown (Claire Foy, Vanessa Kirby)

The tension between these two is riveting! My dears, who’s side are you on? The Queen or the heartbroken sister?

Are you all stupid? The Queen protected her younger sister from a older married man who groomed her from age 15!

Margaret could’ve left the royal family for Peter Townsend. But like Charles, she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. The truth is, she loved her position and the luxury she lived in more than she loved him. And he turned out to be a bit of a creeper. How old was he when he married a 19-year-old girl? He was well into his 30s when he was seducing 17-year-old Margaret. I don’t think she would’ve been as happy as she think she would’ve been. Mostly, Margaret was bitter that she wasn’t born first so she wasn’t queen. She really believed that she would have been a better queen than her sister.

I love that Margaret didn't care Elizabeth was her sister, she spoke the truth all the time.

Oh wow…. All your fault Liz.

WTF

Margaret overstayed her welcome. When the Queen put her fork and knife on the plate she was supposed to leave lol

Calling Alice of Battenberg a lunatic don’t fly with me-

Margaret was what is euphemistically referred to as a "free spirit". Slaves to nothing but their selfishness.

There are but five iconic and timeless Queens: four live in a deck of cards

Margaret could have married Townsend, but she would have had to give up her titles and everything that goes with it. She obviously didn't love him enough.

Next time the Queen finds herself free for lunch, I suspect she will eat alone! 😂😂😂

Margaret was so beautiful when she was young which makes her end even more sad.

Regardless the Queen loved Margaret. ❤

Ive never seen thr series because its so popular but these short clips, two by now, compels me to see more and you know what happens next youre hooked and must finish all.. 🙄

It’s incredibly frustrating when people repeat simplistic takes without any understanding of the nuance and complexity involved in these situations, let alone the context of the time period. It's NOT as straightforward as you're making it out to be. And even IF it were, do you really think it would be easy to walk away from your entire family? The idea that “all” she would lose were her “royal privileges” shows a real lack of understanding of what that actually entailed.

It wasn’t just about “being rich and treated like a princess.” For one, she had a trust fund that couldn’t be taken away from her even if she gave up her title, so the notion that she stayed only for the money is ridiculous—she would never have been poor. But “giving up her privileges” would mean essentially giving up her family. She would no longer be part of private dinners, parties, royal functions, and would lose direct access to her mother, sister, brother-in-law, niece, nephews, and any family members who were working royals. She’d become an outsider, treated as a loose associate or, more likely, a commoner with no connections. She’d have to go through layers of protocol just to speak with her family, if they even decided to respond at all.

This also meant that her children wouldn’t have been acknowledged as part of the royal family. The Queen and Queen Mother wouldn’t have been present for their births, and her children would have had no grandparents or extended family to rely on, especially since Peter’s parents were dead and he was an only child. She would have been cut off from everyone she loved. Despite any disagreements, Margaret and Elizabeth were incredibly close, as were Margaret and her mother. In fact, when Margaret died, her mother was so devastated that she quickly deteriorated and passed away just weeks later.

So, it’s dismissive and unfair to act like Margaret’s decision was simple, or that she was just selfish and didn’t love Peter. It’s clear she loved him deeply and still thought about him fondly in her later years. She even arranged a meeting decades later to find closure, and they were both reportedly very happy to see each other, expressing their sadness and regrets as if no time had passed. Peter himself recognized how much Margaret would lose if they married and told her it wouldn’t be fair to ask her to give up her entire family and life for him. She could have ended up unhappy even if they had been together.

The only real solution would have been for Elizabeth to allow them to marry without the ultimatum and welcome Peter into the family. Elizabeth seemed to understand this later, as evidenced by how she changed the rules following Charles and Diana’s disastrous marriage, acknowledging that allowing Charles to marry Camilla from the start would have avoided a lot of heartache.

This whole topic just highlights how poorly some people understand history and human complexity. Public figures and celebrities aren’t just one-dimensional; they are real people with emotions, flaws, and difficult choices to make. And for anyone to claim they know these figures based on a Wikipedia page or a dramatized portrayal is just naive. Life isn’t black and white, and people need to recognize that.

Claire Foy as the Queen made a faux pas with the table manners. The knife and fork would never have been placed on each side of the plate when resting from eating, they would have been crossed over each other in a closed X form ( tines of the fork over the knife) so that the knife handle at ca 4.5 on a clock and the fork at ca 7.5.

Truth is Elizabeth didn't deny Margaret from marrying Peter Townsend. But she was informed she would lose the HRH title and her line to the throne. She choose prestige over marriage to a commoner.

‘You denied me my perfect match.’ (gulp) lol

What a jealous annoying sister is Margaret. If I had a sister smirking at my marital troubles and actively trying to make me feel inferior all the time like in this season, I would simply never invite her to spend time with me like Elizabeth did. I suppose it’s all fiction. Even the title is annoying. “Her own medicine” what does that even mean?

Margaret CHOSE not to marry Peter Townsend because she would have had to give up her huge income and splendidly luxurious life. Scrimping and saving in a two bedroom semi for the 'man she loved' was not an option!

I have a new respect for Margaret. Elizabeth's jealously over Margaret being more popular led her to deny her sister her love match.
This is a common theme in that family. Charles and William are the same.

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Revenge of the Squealing Pink Tornado!

such a wastrel; thank god other royals have rejected this lifestyle

The young lady who portrays Margaret is beautiful

sisters out snarking each other funny

Did Margaret ash on her own coat? 😂

Abolish the monarchy. What a bunch of nonsense. We pick a group of people and bestow a bunch of mythical attributes on them, we tell them that we're going to practically worship them, we're going to give them lots of money, they can do practically anything they want, that they're above the law, and that they will get to pass on these wonderful gifts to their heirs. Nothing but a bunch of spoiled, sniveling, whining children who have had everything in life given to them on a silver platter and they still find something to complain about. If you're born into a royal family, ANY royal family, you have absolutely nothing to complain about. What's that, you say? Your sister said you couldn't marry who you wanted? Get back out there with a smile on your face and try again. THAT'S how it works in actual world of the lowly commoners. The Windsors are a mixed bag of arrogant twits who look down their noses at everyone else and poor little rich kids with nothing but free time on their hands. These people are supposed to be the symbol of Britain? This is the best that Britain can produce? Oh wait. Britain didn't produce them. Germany did! The Saxe-Coburgs. And as long as we're on THAT subject, one Windsor king would have surrendered Britain to Hitler if had been allowed to. If that had been any lowly commoner who had sold out his country like that, he would have been shot. Abolish the monarchy. Stop romanticizing these people. They take up space and consume taxes while thumbing their noses at you. Vacate Buckingham, Windsor, St. James, and Kensington Palaces and turn them over Historic Royal Palaces where they can be opened up to the public. These people aren't special, they're not better than you, and they don't deserve your adoration and respect. Make these people go out and get real jobs and pay taxes like everyone else.

I think the present generation of royals perfectly demonstrate the absurdity of royal status. These people aren't anything special nor do they deserve to be put on a pedestal. They are nothing more than the average wannabe, grifter or starlet and should be treated as such. The sooner this so-called institution is abolished the better

Very cleverly written and acted.

love it the queen is such a hypocrite...... do as I say not as I do cause i'm royalty...... not in this century..... I did not know that philip had so many skeletons in his closet.....knew he was a womanizer/adulterer and passed that on to his sons......

Margaret's my fav character 😂

Load of bullocks re writing.
Prince Philip & Princess Elizabeth conducted their courtship via writing long loving getting to know you letters.
The Royal Family are letter writers. ✍🏻👑👑.

Vanessa Kirby is a goddess.

Sometimes I wonder if Prince Philip and Margaret would have been better match. Perhaps it would have imploded!

Anyone else ever noticed that as soon as someone gives Elizabeth just a little bit of criticism (in the show) she immediately counters with "that's not fair".

My own sister.

Imagine living life like that.

This woman is confused about why her sister doesn't want to be dragged out of bed to amuse her

Has anyone else noticed that when people take a drag on a cigarette in The Crown you can hear the paper on the cigarette burning? I haven't heard that in any other series

Oh the little Australian... LOL.. MY GOD Meghan never stood a chance with these people..

Princess Margaret and king Edward are probably rolling in their graves knowing what they were denied yet now King Charles and Camilla can sit happily on the throne with all their wrong doings….

I know it's just a show but Margaret needs to stop moaning about Peter. She wasn't denied marriage, she was asked to choose between her title and Peter. She just couldn't bear living without her privileges and her title. Of course, it would have been better for her to be able to marry him and keep her title, but she knew it wasn't going to happen. Had she truly loved him, she would have chosen him. She could have had a perfect life, outside royal duties and with money. She wouldn't have become a lambda commoner.

Margaret was a petulant narcissist because SHE couldn't have the divorced man she wanted, she couldn't hog all the attention, and she wasn't the one who inherited the crown.

Perhaps my favorite scene in the entire series. thank you for posting, the two actresses (and screenwriter, costumes, props) captivated the younger Queen and Princess so perfectly. There's love but tension, and a distinct difference between the two. I love Claire AND Vanessa, absolutely masterful in their roles throughout the whole series, but especially in scenes like this.

I love their phones

What episode…season is this in? I, an expert in watching the crown, am shocked I can’t place this encounter scene.

That’s not true he wrote her when he was in the Navy when they were young.