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NIV reads very beautifully. It had its day, and the publisher made millions.
ОтветитьI grew up using the 1984 NIV, and agree it’s very readable. Once I got into deeper study, I found the NIV avoided some theological terms, so that got me looking at other translations, so I began using the NASB and now use the NKJV. Also, I understand the NIV is somewhat inconsistent, with some books being much better translated than others. However, I’m not expert enough to be sure. I still use it sometimes, and like it, but don’t use it for studying. I have been put off the NIV more recently by the marketing hype around it, and was shocked by the aggressive way the publisher tried to get rid of older editions after bringing out the 2011 edition. Commercialisation of the Bible is something I always find quite ugly and offensive.
ОтветитьIs the NIV 11 is a perversion of scripture it allows for women preachers get cast out on John chapter 8 and woman caught in adultery which is attested to outside of scripture my place in it in italics it creates a point of Doubt for the entirety of scripture. The passage of John chapter 8 is so well historically attested but you only have 21 ancient manuscripts all of the 700 save 21 manuscripts of John have this. The gender perversity then this one Stoops to is staggering . Any set of Scholars that will resort to this type of gender perversion. Clearly believe that God is a doting old fool you simply did not know when he by the Holy Spirit said man he shouldn't have done that because it was going to offend the feminazi perverts of our modern society . This is the case where you are completely wrong in your estimation of the value of the NIV it needs to be removed immediately from print and zondervan needs to apologize to the church for printing at all.
ОтветитьChanging to wash out gender is a problem for me. It’s slowly trying to force our mindset to accept the woke agenda.
ОтветитьBecause they don't want previous version online, as i memorized so much in it and can't access old. They imply this is much better than the old and so in a few years they may do the same
ОтветитьThe debate between Formal Equivalence (A supposed word-for-word translation) and Dynamic Equivalence (The authors original intent) can generate opinionated debates. Listening to Bible Translators Dynamic Translation seems to be the best approach to me. For instance with Formal Equivalence how do you translate idom's, for example the Greek idiom "To have it in the belly", would an English speaker know what this means?..... It means to be pregnant, a KJV translation (Early Modern English) idiom would be "to be with child". I would rather read the Authors original intent instead of a word for translation.
ОтветитьI have always had and loved the NIV!!
Great Bible!!
What translation IS NOT a good translation, and please, do better than the "message" or "Passion" versions
ОтветитьThe NIV is a strange bible it said the opposite what the KJV because if you go to Ezekiel chapter 13 20 in the NIV it's say that people fly away and on the KJV in the same book same chapter verses God is speaking and saying that he is against the NIV the people flying away so there are 7 trumpet 7 vials and 7 seals so the NIV is saying that Jesus Christ will make people fly 7 times that He will be coming and going make people fly so the NIV is written by someone who kills Jesus Christ
ОтветитьLove my brilliant NIV very strong on the deity of Christ and the Holy. The doctrine of salvation very clear. I do not take any notice of the KJV only cultist. They are nothing but liars and false teachers.
ОтветитьI miss the NIV84. I wish they still kept it in print. I'll take the CSB over the NIV2011 all day long.
ОтветитьBruh. The KJV is the only bible, bruh.
Everything else is made by the illuminati to cause everyone to sacrifice puppies to Molech, bruh.
Virginia Ramey Mollenkot was a consulter for the NIV84, and she was a Sodomite who was also a feminist as well.
ОтветитьBecause its absolute garbage. Its not only a critical text version but it also watered down sexual sin, particularly homosexuality.
ОтветитьIf you think the NIV is good, you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
ОтветитьThe NIV84 was the GOAT, easily one of the top three English translations of all time. Zondervan had a license to print money as long as they kept the NIV84. They released the TNIV and it landed with a thump; so some genius decided to re-release it as the NIV.
Immediately, thousands of conservative churches around the country switched to the ESV. The ESV would likely have still been popular in direct competition with the 84, but against the NIV2011, the choice is crystal clear.
Whoever made the decision to rebrand the TNIV as the NIV2011, and then go scorched earth on the NIV84 probably cost Zondervan hundreds of millions of dollars--which tells me it was likely ideological rather than a business decision. They killed the golden goose (the bible being used by 75% or more of all Evangelicals), and now the NIV trails half a dozen other translations for eyeballs.
9 years ago I road my bike 4 miles to a church I thought would give me a Bible, I was given the NIV, I read it and 2 years later I read the KJV, I know for a fact God was with me just the same each time.
God's known to say, "it is fine..." why? Because HE'S A PERSON!
Excellent, thanks for you explanation. I love the NIV!
ОтветитьThe NIV people who put that version out has become liberal in their views. In 2011 when they came out with their new edition they had all the Christian book stores send in all the 1984 editions that they had not sold yet. I guess they had them all destroyed. In 1978 I bought my first NIV and I loved the bible. The changes they made in 1984 version was very minor, but the 2011 update is basically watered down. If the original bible has the male form..... you cannot put in the female form and consider it as being true to the Word of God. When the church becomes woke..... it's sadly, game over! I think the "Person" who runs this channel is a product of his generation. That goes without saying....
ОтветитьI thought that most of the criticism directed at the NIV is also applicable to the RSV and pretty well all the versions other than the KJV.
ОтветитьI think using the word, they, in the context that we use it today to refer to a single person in a sentence, is fine to refer to a single person in the Bible, if applicable. I have never thought of that as being a gender neutral way of speaking myself. It just seems a natural way to talk, and I am a 52 year old woman. My very first, treasured, adult Bible that I bought myself was the NIV study Bible back in 1991 or 1992. I LOVED that Bible and there are highlights and notes all over it! I still have it. Most of my Bibles are the NIV translation. In fact, it has only been recently that I even knew there was criticism with the NIV translation. lol I think if a person is going to an in depth study so hard that it does matter about being as close to a word for word translation, then there are a few other translations that are better for that kind of study. However, for general reading, and study, and worship, I don't see an issue with the NIV Bible translation. I have not exhausted all the research on this issue of the NIV being criticized, but what I have learned, I think are people being nit picky. It is a great scholarly Bible translation for most things. If it isn't something that a certain person chooses to use, that is fine also. I don't see the need to criticize this translation so much. This is my opinion.
ОтветитьI don’t know if you know Greek or Hebrew do you? I ask cause no one that doesn’t know the original languages can say anything really about Bible translations.
ОтветитьNice video... My church uses the KJV as the main bible, but since English is not our language, I must admit that some passages in the KJV is a little hard for me to comprehend. And everytime the passage from the KJV becomes confusing to me, I always grab the NIV and it explains it very well. The only issue for me regarding the NIV, are the missing verses. But all in all, it's a beautiful translation.
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ОтветитьBeware, Satan knows God and Jesus more than we do. Having this advantage can use their power to his advantage.
ОтветитьThe NIV narrative Makes readers believe that Jesus is God. Kjv explains clearly that God manifested in Christ and Christ was not God but God was in christ. Where as the niv changes wording to Jesus is God. This is why these that read the niv version believe Jesus is God.
ОтветитьTranslation vs. Translation - Just Read THE WHOLE BIBLE PERIOD
One of the problems with people speaking bad about the KJV and versions of the Bible in general is this: Just read The Holy Bible. Read all of it. Read any translation. You just might find out that there is something peculiar: the Adam race is a fallen race. The enemy (fallen angels, including the devil) with their FREE WILL went against God. The fallen angels, including unclean spirits and devils are on the wrong side, and they want to influence the Adam race. Misery does desire company.
The devil in the garden at first tried to influence The Woman by misinterpreting or misunderstanding what God had said; then he accused God as being a liar. Today, there are many, many NEW versions and translations of the Holy Bible saying that their way is the better way, and they attack The Authorized Version of King James Version as to get their point across.
The KJV points out man as a sinner and he needs a savior, that SAVIOR is JESUS CHRIST. And God via the Prophet Isaiah foretold his coming SERVANT that will pay the price for all those that will be saved.
Isaiah 53) The Sacrificial Servant of The Lord
1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Philippians 2:5-11 The SAME SERVANT EXALTED
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Acts 13:38,39 The Apostle Paul shows way of SALVATION
38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
I use it, but since the 2011 translation of Mark 1:41, I am less than pleased with that rendering.
There is only 1 other version I am aware of that translates that passage that way.😢
I think we are coming to the place where newer updates will fall in line with cultural norms. Society is to be changed by the Bible, not the Bible changed by Society!
I love the NIV, it's not too literal or too dynamic for me. When I read the NIV I can visualise what's happening in the Bible because I can understand what it says. The gender inclusive language doesn't bother me, in fact I agree with it because it's only used when the Bible is referring to men and women, that's how English is spoken today so it makes the Bible clearer.
ОтветитьWhy do you keep repeating the King James version as if you're downgrading it as your downplaying it
ОтветитьThank you Tim for your explanation of the NIV. I had been a little bit skeptical of the NIV in the past because of other people's comments on it but I'm starting to feel more comfortable with it now. I was gifted an NIV in 2005, it was the Rainbow NIV and I have not really taken the time to really dig into it. But now after watching your video I feel that I need to give it a chance. Blessing to you.
ОтветитьKing James Bible vs New International Version, New American standard, English standard version, New living translation.
New versions change’s doctrine.
Luke 4:4 KJB 4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
( but by every word of God KJB ) has been omitted from Nlt, Niv, Esv, Nasb
Luke 4:4 NIV 4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.
The Holy name ( God Christ KJB ) has been changed to ( he him) NIV, NASB, ESV
1 Timothy 3:16 KJB And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 Timothy 3:16 NIV Also NASB, ESV Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.
Philippians 4:13 KJB I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Philippians 4:13 NIV, Also NASB, ESV
I can do all this through him who gives me strength.
GOD omitted changed to HIM
Revelation 21:4 KJB And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Revelation 21:4 NIV Also NASB, ESV, NLT ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
2 Corinthians 5:18 KJV And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation
JESUS OMITTED
2 Corinthians 5:18 Niv, Also Esv, Nlt, Nasb 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:
Ephesians 3:9 KJB 9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
( who created all things by Jesus Christ: KJB ) Has been omitted from Nlt, Esv, Nasb
Ephesians 3:9 Niv and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.
Revelation 1:11 KJB 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
( I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA KJB ) has also been omitted from Esv, Nasb, Nlt
Revelation 1:11 NIV which said: “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Exodus 6:3 KJB And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
changed JEHOVAH to LORD
Exodus 6:3 NIV Also, Esv, Nasb I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself fully known to them.
The Doctrine of the Godhead KJB VS NIV, ESV, NASB, NLT
1 John 5:7 KJB 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John 5:7 NIV, ESV, NASB For there are three that testify
Acts 17:29 KJB Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Acts 17:29 NIV, ESV “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill.
NASB Changes Godhead for Divine Nature
John 4:42 KJB And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
changed CHRIST to THIS MAN
John 4:42 NIV They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.”
Daniel 3:25 KJB He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
changed Son of God to son OF THE gods
Daniel 3:25 NIV Also Nasb, Esv 25 He said, “Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.”
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Success, envy, and jealousy would be my number 1 reason for why it is criticized.
I wish there was an easy way to distinguish the different versions of the NIV. I have a feeling the publisher of the 2011 NIV tried to keep that purposely ambiguous to keep the sales up.
I have a beautiful king james , new king james , ESV but I always come back to my NIV. This is the translation that impacted me the most on my walk with Christ.
ОтветитьI have a dozen or so study Bibles. Three are based on the NIV and they are produced by great scholars. My favorite is the Zondervan NIV Study Bible edited by D A Carson. This is a tremendous resource for any serious Bible student. Does anyone else like this Bible?
ОтветитьI have never liked the NIV, sooooo…..
ОтветитьI own a NIV Life Application Study Bible and I love it it is the bread of life.
ОтветитьGood translation? How do you know? Do you speak hebrew, greek and or aramaic?
ОтветитьNiV is criticized so much because it is the most popular bible translation.
ОтветитьI grew up with the NIV 84 but as an adult I have come to appreciate the NIV 2011. I use it in conjunction with the ESV, CSB, and NASB.
ОтветитьThey should’ve left the NIV84 alone. It’s still my go to today.
ОтветитьRecently put the NIV in my Bible reading rotation. I enjoy it. My rule of thumb on translations other than the KJV is if God is revealing biblical truth to the reader then it's good.😊
ОтветитьI actually was saved and transformed through studying a paperback NIV Bible that someone sent me in the mail.
ОтветитьI just saw your video and found your reasons accurate. I just switched from my NIV to the CSB. I was wanting something more literal but not as much as the ESV and the CSB hit that mark for me. I always felt a little uncomfortable with the 2011 NIV version revisions and the CSB hit that mark too. I'd probably have stayed with the NIV if the 1984 version was still around and available on my bible app.
ОтветитьHmmmm
2 proud Sodomites were on the translation group
God’s PURE words?????
Hardly
NIV layout l Ike a novel and reads like a novel easy read for easy believeism
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