Leeds United Fans Turn on Farke? | 3 Key Takeaways from the Controversial Draw

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result....At Stoke City....Rothwell at 10.....Ampadu in midfield.....Joseph up front........Alex Cairns instead of Meslier....start Ramaswami and Solomon..........

Thank you CONOR 👍👌

Unfortunately I've resorted to the fact that I can see us getting to the playoffs & then we all know what happens then 😢😥

Terrible, we should be blowing teams away home & away with the players we've got 😫😩

This season I've noticed we're missing the type of goals that SUMMERVILLE & GNONTO were scoring from the left & right, how many of those type of goals have we seen this season?

No one cutting in from the left or right & shooting at the far post across or curling in the top corner 😩😫

A staple of our goals were being scored like this home & away 😫😩🙏

To me it appears Farke goes for the win at home, away he sends the players out to keep the ball and hopefully not concede. If we get the draw that feeds into his 2 points a game plan, if we get the win it's a bonus. Yesterday Piroe was running the back line looking for space in the first 20 but we turned and went back to the centre backs instead of taking a chance and trying to feed him. That has to be the managers instructions.

Home teams stand their ground, and battle. It seems you don't like that smoke.
The Elland Road factor is a key in how you overrun teams at home, and how opposition set up too, but it doesn't translate on the road.
I don't like digging out individuals as its a team effort, but the keeper always has a mistake in him.
Thanks for joining the Ramble yesterday.

My thinking at the moment is that yes Farke absolutely has to adapt and improve in some areas of his game. His starting 11 wasn’t right, but his subs were earlier and they did work, saving us a point. He needs to work on faster build up plays in my opinion, we are far too static and the players don’t often keep moving so we become a bit stagnant.

Having said that - I think my biggest gripe so far has been the chances wasted, by players. Look, most of them have been brilliant for us most of the time. But there have been TOO many blunders already.

Aaronson has missed at least three sitters that come to mind, including last night. Bamford missed the easy tap in, DJ and Gnonto have both been wasteful in games, Joseph missed the first minute chance against Burnley and a couple of others, and then we have Meslier who has probably cost us about 5 points already.

Farke can only do so much - even against low block teams, even against teams that come to hack us down, we still create AMPLE opportunity to score, but our players seem to choke - I think we’ve also had 2 or 3 goals cancelled because of offside which is our lads not being aware of that last line.

I personally think for MOST games we have been set up really well and usually generate a really high XG. That for me is evidence that Farke’s tactics on the whole are working. But when we have almost 20 shots at goal, like last night, and only 4 are on target (if I remember rightly 3 of those went straight down the middle) it’s just not good enough from the players on the pitch.

So there’s things that need to improve across the board, and I do think it’s important to acknowledge that actually Leeds have had a fair share of bad luck compared to the top 4 or 5 teams so far - hopefully that will balance out - but we were robbed of a win at Pompey hitting the woodwork 4 times. The unlucky bounce at Sunderland took that fantastic potential win from us, and Burnley we conceded one chance because of a slip and then they scored (we absolutely battered them all game and their keeper was immense). And I don’t want there to be any excuses, but these are all pretty big instances of bad luck, and if we won both Pompey and Sunderland at least then we’d be ahead of Sheffield on 46 points, and our away form would be very close to Sheff U if we won at Sunderland.

So yes. Away form not great and lots to work on, but I think when you consider all the factors, it’s not a disaster and we have lots to be excited about with this team. MOT

3 things: 1) If we don’t replace Meslier in Jan we won’t finish top 2. 2) Bamford should not even be a bench option. 3) After yet another copycat ineffective away performance Farke must change his thinking on how we set up and play

Main reason we are not top of league is we have missed too many chances ..that other teams are converting. We are all frustrated that we don’t win every game because in general we are by far the best attacking side in the division.which to be fair is mostly down to Farke. Nobody wins every match … but boy it’s frustrating

get rid of Meslier he is a liability, he has one good game and six bad ones.

Why do i get kiko vibes with meslier?

2nd in the league dont panic

my three take aways were :
1 : Farke is tactically inept
2 : Farke prefers Bamford over Joseph
3 : Aaronsen and Piroe cant keep starting in away games

It's always the same week in week out, it's always the same team and substitutions too late. We need to mix it up in away games to bring the winning mentality back. You cannot play the same team all the time there are too many games.

I've had enough of Farke and Meslier want both gone. Time for Darlow in goal in until January and then sort out a keeper.

I blame both the manager and the players for our away performances. Simply not good enough.

It’s time for Bamford to play Sunday league . 80k a week . He is a donkey

Stick with Farke and it is the play offs. We are definitely due a win in the play offs so it could still be OK but this squad should be winning the league

Home or away, High tempo from the start and we're good...Slow tempo from the start and we're bad.. why not play every game high tempo until we're in front and maintain it with the quality on the bench !

Too many weaknesses throughout the squad from goalie to attack. Under real pressure not good enough.

Preston played a version of a Low Block. They played to absorb our attacks, falsely giving the impression they were playing a Low Block where their plan was to make us commit players forward and hit us on a counter attack, They kept Osmajic up top for an outlet, where other teams would be 11 behind the ball. They counter really quickly and it seems our offensive players were slow to react to the counter, expecting Struik or Rodon to mop up, but they didnt.

Once they scored though, they pretty much implemented a low block mentality, it was difficult to break down especially with Piroe up top, but once Bamford came on and later Joseph, Prestons defense had to defend better. We committed our attacking players to taking their defenders on, Ramazani tried, Solomon had success where Brendan and Willy kept everything in front of them. This tells me Brendan and Willy are not the creative players when up against Low Blocks, but they're limited by the number 9 being a nuisance to the defense.... no nuisance no effect.... Its clear, Piroe needs to be dropped against Low Block likely teams and put Solomon and Ramazani on, players who will attack the defence, forcing them to make challenges, make tackles and often they get them wrong, and we get set pieces around their box, which we can put them under more pressure.

If I can see this, I don't understand why Farke cannot.

We will not go up when our goalkeeper keeps mucking up

Oxford have just sacked their manager so that’s turned that game into an unknown.

Home form excellent, away form atrocious. Not the way to get automatic promotion

Are away form will be are downfall like last season

said before, our success is due to the recruitment team. Farke has added very little, some might say he has detracted from it. Could my old auntie manage this team better? probably.

Conor, what has happened to Meslier, he was good 2 years ago, do we have a different goalkeeper coach??

The season is similar from our point of view , whats different is we dont have 2 teams above us 10 points clear.

Our away form will definitely cost us promotion. Burnley have just beaten Norwich. We can't rely on our home form to go up. It will dip at some time and if we can't improve our away form we are toast.

We could not beat Preston away and Burnley beat Norwich away. We need a 9 urgently so that we do not have to bring on Bamford.

If only everyone had the amazing gift of hindsight you have.

It's all about 27 Jan to 1st March results that make or break us

Never happy
Still second
Grow up

For heaven’s sake….Meslier is a great goalie…he kept us in it v Middlesbrough. Stop winging….it’s football not science. Just enjoy the games….it’ll be great to be promoted but shit to play in the premier league being battered every week. Our lads are great …..you get out there and do better eh?

I think the goalkeeper should have done better for the goal

3 key takeaways, Farke, Piroe and Aaronson.

3 things learned: 1 farke needs to go 2 piroe needs to sit on the bench for an extended time 3 meslier and bamford need to be sold in jan

We have 3 goal keepers and only 1 abysmal one plays. What are we charity goalie fc?

We have 3 goal keepers and only 1 abysmal one plays. What are we charity goalie fc?

Farke dilly dallies over striker position, left back no settled player. Bogle no competition, goalie no competition. Shocking

The three things we learned Leeds need a striker a goalkeeper and a manager with tactical awareness

Whoever thinks going back to Ampadu and Joseph is answer are by crazy. Statistically, Leeds is better without them. The current attacking style is lacking. Too many focused on meaningless possession. I expect to see Tanaka and Rothwell taking on players. That frees up Gnonto, Aaronson, James to get into more one on ones and draw other defenders to them and leaving others open for quality scoring chances.

Do they travel to away games on the day ? if so change it ?

The times I see Leeds make 3 or 4 passes when one obvious pass would have got the ball forward much quicker and turned the opposition round. were far to easy to play against we play fancy football all in front of the opponent so easy to defend

Are those bells in the background announcing Bielsa is back in the UK?

Nothing wrong with the manager at all. Faults are 1.. Goalkeeper not good enough 2.. players that should score are not 3.. Bamford needs to go 4.. We need a striker like Chapman

We need a frickkin GOALKEEPER!!!!!!!!

What are you on about? It was an absolutely awful point, all the other teams around us won, and they've all caught up with us. We're in real trouble, our position is meaningless, we don't look threatening or clinical up front, and in the end it's going to catch up with us. 3 away wins is absolutely appalling.

We have to go away to our top 2 rivals, if away form doesn't improve we will be giving them both 3 points head start. The tone is wrong at the start of away games, we don't get on the front foot from the off, instead we faff around on the half way line and lose any early momentum. We need to attack from the off and let the shackles off . Our tactics always give the opposition a chance and as we know, they only need one with Mes in goal.

You're really not good enough for premier league. I'm Boro and we are garbage we wouldn't last if we got promoted. I'd rather stay in championship. UTB

The key these days is not so much about getting promoted but staying promoted.

What you thinking people?