PoE+ NVMe beats Raspberry Pi to the punch

Great video about POE . I am working on RPI5 with waveshare with bottom M2 NVMe board including passive cooling of the M2 drive. Cooler on the top board I find to be very good solution. My own encloser will be using this setup and run my one application a as a server. I can keep you informed if interested.

The coil whine is what made me return the Waveshare POE hat, removing one of the selling points of RPi 5 vs. mini PCs for my intended purpose. My ThinkCentre Tiny cluster uses active cooling and has a certain amount of coil whine, but still manages to be quiet in comparison to this particular POE hat that I ordered. Unfortunately, this new hat comes a bit to late for my RPi 5 which now runs on the original power supply and with a NVMe base. I still feel like the RPIs got way too expensive (after considering the "required" mods like a heatsink/fan, the power supply and a NVMe hat/base) coming in very close to what I have paid for my ThinkCentres. Even the power consumption of the RPi 5 isn't all that great anymore. Something that I'd really like to see improved to make it more competitive again - smart phones can do it, why not RPi's*. Idle vs idle (with powertop on the ThinkCentres) they are surprisingly close, actually. Under (partial) load the PI5 wins cleary, but is also slower and is less flexible for server tasks. That being said, I still enjoy content about RPis a lot!
* Yeah, more modern chips/nodes are even more expensive to produce that's true, but still.

Finally other folx are using USBC PD to power the pis!

I must know if surfshark paid extra for the shark costume.

Orange Pi 5 watching this is like:
"All that to replicate fraction of my power..."

How would a UPS fair if POE was being used 🤔 and stack a rad a penta hat for SSD’s ?… 🧐

PoE should have just been part of the Pi5 without a hat.

Why not just make the Raspberry Pi itself natively support PoE+?

I love the waveshare HAT. Have used it on 2 clusters of 4 Pis and it’s been great. I went back to a POE splitter for a recent project and the HAT is so much better. Should’ve just bought one for that Pi.

It's a small detail, but every time a hat has extra leds, I want to know if they are addressable through /sys/class/led/. Having an off-switch for leds during normal operation is just a good feature to me.

I personally would not recommend 52Pi. I received a PCIe 1x converter board which arrived damaged and could not get a response from any of the email addresses I tried. Unfortunately they’re the only vendor I can find which makes that specific kind of board.

i've been rocking the black one for my main RP5 for months now and its very nice and reliable. I might have to look into that Aruba device, because I haven't had luck with anyting but the beefiest PoE++ switches getting these dual purpose hats to boot off LAN alone, consistently... idk whats wrong. You are correct about the height being an issue for me, attempting to pack 4 of these into a purpose built RP5 cluster rack.... but you can't win them all. I'm considering getting a legit rack now, like the GeekPi one you had, and finally go legit with a "real" rack now. the second hat you talked about looks like it might be just what the doctor ordered to complete my setup

When PoE hat prohibits the 5v power, it might be nice if manufacturer throw a port plug into the package and installation instruction. Would serve as a reminder to prevent misuse

Will the official POE hat even come?

I wish that all of them came will indication diodes for PoE power and which PoE mode.

Where did you get those beautiful and thin network cables?!

i want them badly in germany!

What do you use the SDR for? I did a search on your channel and it doesn't look like you have ever covered it.

I use a PoE to USB-C splitter which is a great cheap way to get PoE to a Pi but it seems to cause some under-voltage errors so something like this is a great fix for the hacky solution :)

but can it do USB and PoE at the same time?

I don't understand anyone using SurfShark. The best speed I got from them was under 300Mbps. That was down from 1250Mbps. PIA is faster than that with over 400Mbps. All of them stink compared to WARP which is free! Why are people paying for VPN masking?

shark costume means qawr gura

I've successfully been using PoE splitters for some time now. PoE in -> USB-C Power Delivery jack and gigabit RJ45 (ethernet) jack out. It's not pretty, but it works! No obstruction, heat generation or whine created by a hat, and the splitter is not Raspi specific, so it could also be used for other devices or Raspi models.

I'm just too cheap to buy one of these. Too many compromises and the added expense of a poe switch really runs up the cost. I'd rather juat use a cheap sd card and wifi as I'll just use my Epyc based server if I need more network speed or iops.

the 'bug' sounds like an intentional watchdog sort of thing. gnerally if its poe you would want it on? or control from switch

Nice review of the options. My Pipe-Dream is for the Pi 6 to have PoE and NVMe natively on the board - no hats required.

Pi should have put the magnetics on their board years ago.

I've got 3 of the waveshare PoE + m.2 HATs and they're working great so far

I printed the 1U 6 pi rackmount project you had on your website and if you just don't print the sleds, the pi + waveshare hat slots in pretty much perfectly

The shark costume!!!

All hat, no cattle.

Where do you get short nvme drives?

Can any of these work with BOOTP/TFTP or similar, so you can eliminate the onboard storage?

One cable to rule them all!!!

Nice video. Are you going to get the uctronics raspberry pi 5 1u case?

Funny, you can use Orange Pi 5 and run nvme drive without and an additional card and you do not need a fan too, the OPi 5 runs cool about 50C. Anyway, the video is an educating.

Is the pi module 5 coming out soon anyone?

why can i not get the phrase "hat on a hat" out of my mind now
it's hats all the way down kid

The big problem with the hats is they block airflow, or add a tiny fan that's annoying and a maintenance issue. Get a PoE splitter instead.

🤣 that shark suit, I'm dead 😂

instantly want like 20 of these

Hey, Jeff unrelated question to the video here. Since It's almost a year after the PI5 release now, I wonder would you could share what type of workloads you put on your PI5 at your homelab. I've been consider getting the PI5 for quite a while now, but I just don't really now what kind of usecase would it excel at. I've had my PI3 since I was in high school and have been doing countless prototypes on it, but putting it on my rack is a different matter.
Thank you in advance, Love your videos.

Why do you need a transformer for a DC to DC POE solution?

Great vid as always. Couple things you missed; The cable off-center isn't so. The entire board is mounted off kilter. Clear in your close-up photo, where the IDC headers are "bent". 🙂You probably also noticed in editing. ;-)

I thought this was something more serious like nvme over fabric...

Kylie Pass

I was fine watching this video for a while, but then I think I had a brain episode and believed that I saw a man dressed in a shark costume assembling a computer. I'm wondering if I've been working too hard recently.

Good guy Jeff tests weird stuff you might need. Thanks👏👍💯