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This was brilliant! How you explain a very complex condition is simply stunning. I’m so very glad I stumbled upon this video. Thank you.
ОтветитьGute Analyse
ОтветитьI have two adult sons with schizophrenia - and this is by far the most useful ( and, actually calming) explanation I have come across. Both are very reluctant to speak about their experiences - but during one conversation where I questioned various names of characters that he mentioned whilst he was in psychosis, we both agreed these characters seemed to represent different archetypes.
Thank you for doing this video. I would certainly be interested in the follow-up video you mentioned. (I would also be interested if you have any info on the paranoid aspect of schizophrenia - which seems to start to manifest prior to a full blown episode).
This video makes so much sense a great video
Ответить👍👍👍👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏
Ответитьbruv aint gonna lie you look some sick/tired.
ОтветитьI remember 'snapping out of it' at one point, and suddenly seeing the 'actual' room I was in around me and thinking 'hoooolllly fuck I am tripping sooooo hard'. I had totally forgotten I was just in my bedroom, but instead thought I was basically taking a tour of this consciousness factory.
I quickly fell back into Salvialand and this is when Carl Jung took a shit on the floor. 💩😂
What ordinary humans consider to be "hallucinations" not really hallucinations (since everything is a hallucination), they are just God's imagination — Infinite Imagination — at work in non-ordinary states of consciousness.
ОтветитьSchizophrenia is like an extreme form of openmindedness. Your mind/consciousness is so abnormally open that reality itself becomes less material and more fluid — similar to being on mushrooms. This kind of openness correlates with high creativity because a lot more novel ideas are floating into your field of consciousness. But your mind is so open that these ideas literally start to morph your material world. A coffee table could start talking to you and giving you novel ideas. The trade-off is that your mind is less buttoned-up, so it literally starts to feel like you're going insane. How would you react if all the sudden your coffee table started to talk to you? Would you be open to listening, or would you freak out and run to the doctor to put yourself on meds to suppress it? Most people would freak out because they don't have a proper context for it. Under the materialist paradigm the only context is that you're going insane. But if you understand how consciousness works then there's really nothing wrong about it, you just have an extra-open mind.
ОтветитьThe painting on the right is genius. The angle of the glasses wrt the eyes shows that the head orientation is not the same as in the left image. The shape of the chin/jaw are completely different. The mustache seems a bit large, but it fits if you see the face as being another person entirely, someone who doesn’t have a mustache.
Thus there is gestalt in the composition, subtly implying a “split identity” but because we are shown the photos side by side, the denotative identity is the one that remains salient. This is in contrast to the extreme use of high contrast color in the expressionist style … which if you think about the order in which the brush strokes are laid down isn’t actually a mess at all. Thus the accentuation of style resonates with the theme and composition.
Also there is radiant effect in the contrast of colors coming from the upper right. If the rest of the painting were inaccurate, then it’s likely this lighting/color effect wouldn’t show the way it does.
“Being unconscious to the unconscious is the definition of insanity” it really beats the Einstein quote.
Also, the process of splitting off the person’s ego is not necessarily something happening “in the individual’s psyche.” A person’s identity is mediated by a dialectical process where one’s sense of self needs to be balanced by interpreting others’ perceptions of one’s self/identity.
This dialectic can become stagnant or disrupted, especially when the person is not capable of receiving/eliciting information about themselves or their social environment.
Catalysts for disrupting a healthy process of integration: rejection, false memories, gaslighting, defamation, protracted trauma, recalcitrant neuroses, depersonalization, alienation, avoidance, maladaptive schemas, poverty, learned helplessness, pathological lying, etc.
Simply calling the response to these things “symptoms” or labeling the person with a “disease” is pretty terrible. No offense to you: your discussion is accurate and insightful. I just think it’s ridiculous for people to conceive of these labels as corresponding to some biological/chemical process in someone’s head. It’s not clear how often the above factors are more so responsible for processing the person into refractory psychological regression, but I don’t think the medical establishment attributes much causation to the types of lived experiences people who are labeled. Whether someone could recover from the damage is another question. But unintentionally explaining away terrible shit through material reductionism is not going to improve the accumulated karmic debt.
Society can easily treat people like garbage and throw them away when information about their abuse is inconvenient. The misunderstood causes of many kinds of “mental illness” are hardly the only factors that will lead to a pandemic of psychological issues:
social media supplants real relationships leaving people with fragile support networks. Some of us are cursed with a permanent digital identity that strongly outweighs any control we have over our own lives.
the American media gaslights and lies 24/7, crippling freedom of association and cultivating fear/paranoia.
tech algorithms have better insight into what’s left of our fragile egos than we do. This strongly biases the range of things people experience and inhibits introspection. This disrupts people’s ability to learn how to adapt, since there are few qualitative/quantitative features you can track as causative/associated with success/failure. The chain of cause/effect from data influencing the real world is completely invisible to people, but it’s increasingly dominant/determinative.
I could go on… but it’s not a good look to be pessimistic. if the economy collapses then we will see the bottom fall out of our culture, psychologically and sociologically.
Excellent summary, thank-you!
ОтветитьIve been wondering for a long time why different people had similar delusions.
ОтветитьI am a woman… if ego can’t rationalize that… then am I schizophrenic????
ОтветитьWow this was amazing. I had two brothers with schizophrenia that have passed on. It’s so hard to see someone you love is lost and you don’t know how to help. This brings a whole new understanding. Thank you 🙏
ОтветитьThe ego is thrown more into persona or public figure to define one's identity more than the self. We are one sided. Causing to become self conscious more concerned with appearances.
ОтветитьHow do I connect this explanation with patients who only have the negative symptoms of schizoogrenia where in the auditory and visual hallucinations are absent??
ОтветитьFascinating 💯👌
ОтветитьI’m struggling to recover from schizophrenia due to lack of support… Sorry to say chemicals n hormones do Not cause schizophrenia… psyche is an over-simplistic way of explaining the many aspects when considering the many considerations that attribute to a lower mental level or capacity, and the many aspects that lead to a weakness of the will.
ОтветитьI agree with - “thoughts are having you”,,, though I’m not sure how I would word it differently… However I understand your explanation.
ОтветитьI had to fight the urge to listen too, n respond too, or answer my subconscious hallucinations,,, very easy to give in to your ulterior will while the majority refuse to acknowledge your reality like Jung described it, what I would suggest I was n still am desperate for is to be talked too like I have Alzheimer’s, or otherwise how we’re taught to meet a medical patient where they are…
In Alzheimer’s someone typically lives in an alternate time frame, however someone in psychosis typically lives in an alternate reality.
Peace prize recipient Dr.Daniel Kahneman talks about certain words do trigger our subconscious…
ОтветитьI agree with the definition of the “Complexes” source, and actions of the separation between the conscious n subconscious… that said I think I now understand while I could stop myself from letting my “ego” control me, I now see I had a very limited ability, mostly disability to control my “complexes.”
That said, I am tempted to find a different word to explain both “complexes” and “ego.”
Damn, thisthis video is so damn intelectually stimulating
ОтветитьYou have a phenomenal grasp of this subject.
ОтветитьOne of the voices is forever complaining about how the majority of people who have stable highly functioning egos and show no signs of consciously being familiar with unconscious and are highly stable and pleasant for the most part as being…and to the entity the greatest insult…boring.
ОтветитьCan you explain where humor fits into all this being someone who has traveled extensively in both realms of the neurotic (the personal) and the schizophrenic (the impersonal) but loves nothing as much making people laugh or getting off a good zinger (neurotic voice says oh you just have an insecure need for attention, acceptance and validation but fuck it…number one thing about the neurotic zone is it has no sense of humor…all crushing wet blanket…where as the entities from the schizophrenic zone I don’t know if you could call it humor but definitely a bizarre twisted set of insinuations and buckets of sarcastic paints and tars that they want to decorate your life with…Throw out the owner and just start renovating the home…which may have been perfectly fine…if the owner manages to peek into the window is astonished at seeing what they are doing….The Marx Brothers at their best are the unconscious unleashed on the everyday ego in dominance world….To the consensus rational utilitarian realm the unconscious is for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY good for a few laughs but to be pitied if falls outside of mere entertainment.
ОтветитьSo does it boil down to contest between the ego and the unconscious for which has the most influence and powerful sense of entitlement?
Which begs the question…entitled to what? Dominant over what?
Very insightful
ОтветитьIs Jung a schizoid?
ОтветитьPls make the continuation is this topic, its very helpful
ОтветитьExcellent presentation!
Ответитьvery informative. thank you
ОтветитьKomplimeent sie sind ein echter kenner c g jungs konzepte ja so ist es 👍😉
ОтветитьAbsolutely brilliant video!! Useful for everyone
ОтветитьExcellent
ОтветитьWhich book are the quotes from? Great video.
ОтветитьGreat video, first time something Jung related blew my mind in an easy to understand way.
ОтветитьWhat a good video. Congrats
ОтветитьSo if the ego has lost its control how can the individual restore the balance of power back to there ego. If a change can occur to make one unusual by societys standards . What can that person do. It has to be the individual who does this... But there must be a way... Right... Soneone I love dearly is suffering and there has to be a way.
ОтветитьWhen the break up so bad you start hallucinating :(
Ответитьthis video is awesome thanks
ОтветитьThank u for this very important video. Hopefully mainstream psychiatry & psychology will view this. Treatment is the goal. Yipee!😊❤
ОтветитьVocabulary and early years reading....books.😊❤
ОтветитьThis is incredibly well-done. You took a very complex topic and made it easy to understand. Thank you!
ОтветитьI’ve been into spirituality and the capabilities of the mind for a while now, and id like to throw in my own personal theory :) Phenomena like astra projection and OBEs show us that our physical body is not all that exists, and that there exists an energetic field at higher vibration and maybe on a different axis from the 3 we have in our physical reality. Using either meditation of psychedelic drugs we can get a glimpse into different aspects of existence that exist all around us all the time but we can’t perceive. DMT especially pushes you fully out of body and you may meet some entities on the astral plane. This all works by the suppression of the ego, rather through meditative work since astral projection occurs right before the blink of sleep once your ego and physical body and asleep or with psychedelics with suppress the ego while their active. So much like you said they exist in a half asleep half awake existence, their mind is actively more attuned to the astral realm more then the average person, they may be seeing entities or taking in information from outside our understanding. But it’s nothing to be afraid of cause it already exists around us all the time
ОтветитьRandy Newmans music for Star Wars is much better.
ОтветитьIf you are lying in bed sound asleep, you can dream up a hallucinated alien chasing your hallucinated body while you fight it off with a hallucinated machine gun which can puncture its hallucinated skin resulting it a hallucinated victory and even a hallucinated feeling of joy. So in a dream — precisely BECAUSE everything is a hallucination — a hallucinated weapon is very useful. Without it, you might get eaten alive!
Now, what if what you call “reality” works just like that?
If you’re like the typical person, you hold hallucination as a category of experience which is separate from ordinary “real” experience. To you, hallucinations are clearly unreal and inferior to real perceptions. But now I want you to consider the radical possibility that everything is a hallucination! Consider that there are not two categories of experience, one “real” and one “hallucinatory”, but only one category: hallucination. You might wonder, Why call this one category hallucination instead of perception?” Because hallucination is closer to the fact. Hallucination is defined as perception without an object. Which is EXACTLY what we’ve got!
Perception = hallucination! There is nothing else behind it! There is no physical, external world behind your everyday perceptions. Which literally means that what you think of as solid, tangible, physical, material reality is just a hallucination, albeit a rather persistent one — one which is shared by most of the people in your tribe. That is, until you start to play around with altered states of consciousness or psychedelics. Then you quickly realize how intangible, unreal, and hallucinatory your everyday experience was all along. This is exactly why psychedelics are so effective. And also exactly why they are so demonized by mainstream culture.
I'm a rare breed of schizo... Been dealing with angels and demons since 7 years old. (Both visual and auditory harassment). By 12 years old I no longer was scared. By 15 began to fight back. When 27 I got into a car accident and was in a coma for 3weeks. My schizo.... Was unleashed ten fold. I spent 2 years being homeless, 3 years in the psyche ward under state conservatorship. The first year I was tied to a bed 24/7. My grandmother signed me out. She died. I been on a path of recovery since the psychward. I've learned a lot. I take my medicine and somehow have a life worth living. I still get harassed here and there. But I don't put any energy into it anymore. Simply use coping mechanism and always keep an extra pill on me when venturing out in public. When I get into psychosis I scare people my eyes turn black and I gain the strength of 5 men, then I begin to speak in tongues. I'm ashamed of myself but I realize it wasn't the real me.
ОтветитьBravo!
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