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>"Most DIYers Do Not Know This | Loctite Red Threadlocker Curing"
Click bait titles, more dishonest and disingenuous then ever.
Sometimes you need red sometimes you need blue other times you need copper grease...
The decision is yours...
Better off with a nordlock washer
ОтветитьThis falls into the "for what it's worth" category.
Most bolts and nuts loosen up because of the sloppy thread fit. That was why lock washers came to be. Years ago I had a piece of equipment that had some one inch studs that kept coming loose. I'd hammer then tight with an impact gun, then further tighten with a breaker bar and a long pipe. It was tight! Over the course of weeks and up to a couple of months, these studs would loosen up. Finally I took them apart, cleaned the threads, then applied a light coat of RTV silicone and re-torque the same as before. After that nothing loosened up, ever. And the silicone kept out moisture so disassembly was a non-event. It has been my go-to method on anything that lives in a world of vibration and I've had great results. Your results my vary.
overated product. craft glue would work just as good and cleans easier too
ОтветитьI find the lock tite gel works better in my experience
ОтветитьKnowing how to properly use tools might make a difference. You never use an extender or “cheater bar” with a torque wrench if you expect a reliable reading. Torque wrench values are based on specific leverage to base logarithms to produce the accurate reading unless you determine the variable of the additional leverage quotient.
ОтветитьI'd be suspicious of data that shows an unexpected drop in torque value when it should be at least as high.
ОтветитьSo, no bar was necessary on the ratchet handle.
ОтветитьUse a bit of brake clean to take the oil off the fasteners before loctite, every shop has some.
ОтветитьSuperglue works pretty good too in a pinch.
ОтветитьThanks. Interesting. :)
ОтветитьIf you tighten it up with the red, it’s not coming loose. You don’t need to do all that prep work. Who’s got time for that nobody
ОтветитьI did not know all that you demonstrated. Interesting. Maybe you used far too much activator? Catalysts and epoxy are both fussy solutions. This has been in my mind recently. So also there needs to be pressure to suitably activate the Loctite achieved by torque applied to the mechanical bond. Which I consider a vital part of the bond. One scientists knew would be present but you eliminated by not using the fasteners to do any clamping. Significant?
ОтветитьWould like to see the same tests using stainless steel nuts & bolts..
ОтветитьI would do the activated again.. the first 2 were higher than the last 3 as ifvthey were losing strength
.. does not make sense
You call it activated but it seems to be just a pre cleaning. ?
Ответитьok i understood 24hrs...
ОтветитьTry Nm as the Real World works on Bolts in Situe not free standing nuts & bolts
ОтветитьI don't and never will use loctite. You just don't need it. Ive never had a bolt/nut come loose. Maybe im just lucky. 👍
ОтветитьYooo soooond like yooooore from Minesoooootah
ОтветитьI wonder what less time does?
Ответитьlock tight I'd awesome
ОтветитьThose nuts were not under tension , this makes the experiment invalid , try again with nuts clamping something or a jam nut .
ОтветитьSave your money.
ОтветитьNow with regular unclean bolts, that would be interesting
ОтветитьThis is the one you want:
Locktite makes the 263 red threadlocker it is primerless and can be used on all metal and CAN BE used on as received fasteners that have not been cleaned.
Not sure you can use that torque wrench with an extension handle as shown in your video and still get an accurate result. You can’t with a traditional mechanical torque wrench… It sounds counterintuitive but there’s a good reason.
ОтветитьVery good. Thanks.
ОтветитьInteresting experiment, some nice method here. If done with 50 samples (5 unprimed, 5 primed per time interval), it might show if the primed torque smaller than unprimed at 72h is accidental or consistent.
ОтветитьI've used threadlocker on bolts by just cleaning them with carb cleaner, and it's worked very well. Never had any issues. Most of us don't have day's or extra time to paint every fastener every time, seems there would be a better alternative.
ОтветитьCool test, be interesting to see a comparison also with not cleaning the fasteners beforehand since you know almost nobody is going to do that in practice.
ОтветитьThis is great but I wish you had did a set NOT cleaned for comparison.
Like 99% of people do.
It would be good to see statistical control graphs.
time for x-axis, torque for y-axis.
Isopropyl alcohol leaves an oily film on things. Most folks don't know this, you might be surprised by this. Just put a few drops into your kitchen sink, let it evaporate and run water over it, notice it beading up. My wife was a nail tech and taught me this. Always something to learn as an old mechanical engineer!!
ОтветитьLesson learned....if you want to remove the nut later don't use activator. I've seen freaking red locktite need a torch to get the nuts removed sometimes....
ОтветитьI learned the other day that the red loctite has a much shorter working time than I thought. 10 minutes or much less. LOL
ОтветитьTightness of threads to begin with matters more than type of metal in my experience.
ОтветитьWhen you say that " not many people knoe about that" You really think that when people buy new product like Loctite they just us it without reading how to use it? I bet you talk form your BAD experiance...
ОтветитьI'd have thought zinc would be active due to its reactivity.
What people don't realize is that zinc platings are sacrificial anodic protection.
I thought it was the friction from the tightening torque that " sets " the Loctite . Not just air dry .
ОтветитьWhoever invented red loctite thought they were the knight in shinning armor but they were just a retard in tinfoil this shit is the absolute curse and stain upon my very being and somebody over as Suzuki needs there 45 gallon drum of loctite they dip the bolts in taken away
ОтветитьGreat video!
ОтветитьThat's nice. What are the comparative ratings for nuts and bolts without thread locker. I mean, if we're going to compare two methods, let's have a neutral substrate to compare them to.
ОтветитьListen, if you want to PERMANENTLY secure the nut with ZERO chance of it getting loose, just tighten the nut as much as you can, then take a Flat Head Screwdriver and damage the threads of the bolt where the nut is, and it will NEVER come loose, but remember, this will be permanent, but if you ever need to undo it, you can always cut it off.
ОтветитьI LOVE this! Well done.....I wonder what the torques would be with threading all bolts thru a hole and tightening to a specific force and then throw in a CONTROL sample (NO LOCKTITE) too?
ОтветитьYou’re totally wrong!
Inactive metals are platinum, gold, aluminum, stainless steel and some plated metals like chrome.
Zinc, zinc plating and zinc bolts are all ACTIVE.
Activator is NOT required. It just speeds up the curing process.
Thread locker is an anaerobic adhesive. It will not cure in an aerobic environment.
Just use thread locker like you always have.
Why would prevailing torque standard be shown as higher than breakaway on your table?
Just backwards from what you had