The Life of a Fenian On The Run

The Scottish are Irish who couldn’t swim. Me Da told me that wee funny line

That was excellent.

I beg to differ that 'it would have been worse to have never done anything at all '. The whole IRB/Fenian fiasco was a waste of money and a disgrace. The ensuing partial rebellion in Ireland was disastrous. Like 1798 the might of the British Empire would have resulted in the death of countless Irish people and the destruction of whatever scraps of civil life there was in Ireland.
By the time of Irelands War of Independence British and international sympathy for a self-governing Ireland had changed, which brought about the present situation, however unsatisfactory it may seem to some.

For what died the sons of rosin I’m sure if our leaders seen Eire today.
They probably would’ve stayed in bed 🙏🏻🇮🇪🙏🏻.

Canada that’s a mad one bud.

Davy Holden the history man, your videos and very interesting and full of the best information that can be understood very well, excellent and very well done

'Only $500'? A century and a half ago, how much was $500 worth in today's money?!

Class video man.

Your presentation style is very good keep it up 🎤 📹 😊👍

Davy, I know this sounds crazy but given Stephens' actions over the years, do you think there's any possibility he was a plant all along?

Heading up a rebel group in 1858 after the failure of the 1848 one, that outs those in the population who would want to join who have just watched over a million of their own people starve to death and at least another 2 million flee for survival. The British always had to keep an eye out for Irish rebellions and after The Great Hunger, they must have been well aware of the heightened danger against them that was triggered on a large scale amongst the Irish population and possibly, preemptively, come up with ways to thwart a future rebellion. Either by creating an organization themselves, or infiltrating a real one, IRB, from the start, so they can control it?

Given Stephens always managed to escape capture, except the one time he spent two weeks in jail before being broken out, and his actions in the U.S., promising year after year a rebellion that never happens, under his watch anyway, to eventually just go home? Why lie about going back to Ireland then stay in New York. Was he there to control the movement and string it along with the end result that the timing for a rising just was never the right time?

I don't know. So much of it doesn't make any sense and the British had spies in Ireland and America to watch the Irish in both countries and infiltrate the Fenians in America to thwart the movement after the famine.

My g-g-grandfather was IRB, my grandmother's grandfather. She talked about him. He was involved in the 1867 Fenian Rising in Limerick, was arrested, charged with treason-felony, and deported to America, not allowed to return. He settled in Chicago. I found the record of his arrest in Irish records, I have a photocopy of the written log book of his arrest. Under the column that says "Specific crime charged with", it is written, "Levying war against the Queen and attacking Ardagh Barracks".

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Really good video and I liked your adjustment of the historical info on the plaque and your quest for accuracy.

Yet IDIOTS of Fenian Scotland have somehow outlawed the use of it, the mind boggles ? Many call this CRAZY !

Brilliant video, very informative. Thanks for this

I refuse to Apologise for my Gaelic Heritage even if it means my death

I love your fast paced presentation. I'll want to see the video again to absorb more, but I find that a brisk telling of a story actually makes it easier to get the overview right away. Then I can rewatch the video, taking in more of the details. Also, I like that you walk us through the setting of the story. The other visuals that you provide I also appreciate. You deserve a growing following. ☘️

Great story David

Great video Mo Chara 👏🇮🇪. You’ve earned a new subscriber here

Long live the Fenians

No surrender

Brilliant story ..loved it

Ireland is in a shit state because the people are believers they'll believe in any shite, they believed the roman army version of creation of religion where you have to turn the other cheek and forgive the elites or powerful and confess to their police station churches, you believed the English and Scottish lords n laird that their governance was for the benefit of the Irish and not a hundred years later you invited every despot dictatorial European narcissist to eat from your fridge, I know youll hate hearing the truth from an Englishman but someone got to tell you to wake up and believe in yourselves because any man who looks outside his own heart for leadership is a fool, lots of love from the English Munster man ❤❤

This is great stuff davy!! id love you to do one about after the signing of the treaty more so about what happend in the north of Ireland (if you havent done it already and ive missed it)

The best of the best 😊

Love from the north of Dublin

Tis an awful shame our current leader(s) are giving away what a lot of Irish died for, freedom from outside rulers. Shame on them all in the dail.

You're a wealth of knowledge young man. Absolutely fantastic..

Great video Davy. I don’t remember them covering this in History class when I was at Kieran’s 😂, god forbid they might have in-stilled national pride in the students that attended there…. Then again, I might have been mitching the day they were teaching about him.

Like most Irish people I’ve learned and continue to learn more about our history reading books outside the national school curriculum and watching videos such as the this.

Keep up the good work 👍.

Why fenian though ?

An excellent presentation delivered with impeccable research. You are to be congratulated.

Great channel

Excellent, thank you.

Interesting. As a Glaswegian born to second generation Irish I was never taught anything about this in my Catholic school education.

Good content well presented.

Have you done anything on O’Donovan Rossa yet?

Davy you're some man for the history lessons, i studied some of this for the leaving cert but I must say you've done an even better job than most, keep up the good work! Excited for the upcoming video :)

James Stephens did not found or even co founded THE FENIAN BROTHERHOOD IT WAS FOUNDED BY MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER COLONEL JOHN FRANCIS O'MAHONY IN NEW YORK 1858

Maybe it reads feinan brotherhood, cuz irish republic brotherhood was too much a sensitive topic. Like who had it commissioned?

Thank you for making this video. I appreciate learning the lessons of the past. I am an interested " historian" of sorts, who's been working on never before read, stash of Fenian Brotherhood letters for the past 3 years. I have Just finished transcribing all 144 of them. I would like to go back through and see if I can not find anything that matches the dates you mentioned. I have letters from him, and I have an according of him in America. Are you familiar with the great Irish fair? It was one of the most successes of it's time, and raised over 50,000.00 dollars. James Stephens worked along side the Deputy Chief (Henry O'Clarence McCarthy) of the FB in America. I look forward to anymore history you have to share from this era.

Many thanks from the great great grandson of John O’Mahony here in the U.S. from what I know, John was a colonel in the civil war, ran a Gaelic newspaper in NY and published a translation of the history of Ireland. Interesting person. I might be wrong but as I understand he gave the Fenians their name.

Thanks

Oh! William smith Obrien….. I have seen the name on records called the William smith Obrien appeal? The names are supporters I believe and contributing $$. Is it same to assume that someone who contributed would be a supporter of the IRB? Thanks. Asking because I have family members mentioned

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Excellent work my friend. This has been thoroughly researched and well presented.

Keep up the good work!

How about John Devoy?

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Excellent video very informative keep up yer good work

Thankyou

Davy: Are you an engineer? You seem to be wearing an Engineer's ring we wear in Canada. Great videos, too, so thank you

My great great grandfather was part of The Fenian Brotherhood. John James Clancey. He raised 13 children, along with my grandfather, who lost his parents at a young age. He worked into his 90’s.