Everything Wrong with Vehicle Balance in Battlefield 2042

This is why I play breakthrough, sometimes the vehicle balance is off completely but a lot of times it feels nice the the attacking team doesn’t get a Attack vehicle but only a hind and a tank so 32 people can body it or the attackers can use their resources appropriately

I think the biggest part of the vehicle imbalance is the map design. In the heli, you can see everything from above but on the ground the is no cover or place to run to. So vehicle are able to have a field-day attacking running across open terrain. Not only this but the soldiers are very easily visible even through smoke.

And it’s still nearly impossible to take down helis… this game was not played at all before they released it.

I have not idea what kinda players play on servers outside of the US. But here in the US good luck if you dont have a squad that knows what their doing to play with! Also all this crying about vehicles sorry but you need to go play COD at this point! Fix the specialist class to certain classes and then we are talkin. Until then dont me cryin about vehicles when you have 64 players that can possibly lock on to your vehicle! Also I play on foot a lot because the weapons work! Yet the cry babies really do come out! GTFO if its too much for you!

Vehicles are still way overpowered even a well placed infantry Vehicle can get dozens of kills before anyone takes them out.

I think you missed the part of the unlimited flares for the helicopters and if you somehow hit any vehicles with a rocket it doesn't matter they just drive/fly off to regen their full health when in any battlefield game has a vehicle been able to repair itself without making its self vulnerable because you have to not move and can't use your weapons or someone else repairing it? Battlefield 5 had weak points on tanks if I shoot a bazooka and hit the tank tread it was noticeable that the tank driver was having a hard time to move or if I hit the turret mow the turret is slowed down and now the tank has to retreat and repair also in bf5 there was an animation the players in the tank had to do to get out of it to defend the tank in this game they just appear out of it and start spraying bring that animation back it doesn't have to be ridiculously long just something so they actually have to time it right but meh I'm just an infantry player in all the battlefield games

Rockets are useless in 2042 they need to add weak points to vehicles like hitting a tank in the back does more damage or hitting the tail of a heli etc etc

Of course they are happy with the balance! They always favor flying vehicles. Remember in BF5 when games were impossible to enjoy due to overpowered bombers and dive bombers (Pacific side)? And what they did? They nerfed the fliegerfaust. The best weapon to make pilots bitter and make them think twice when and where to attack.

Yeah. They are happy with the balance. They want air vehicles to dominate.

Playing against a skilled Super-Hind or Condor Pilot is like giving a Tank wings and hoverjets. Just nuts and extremely frustrating to take down. I personally change to Angel and spam guided rockets til the sun goes down for the rest of the match if a player is abusing the helo's

Get into a game , Get shafted by vehicles & quit.

They should at least have something for you to have an ability for you to test out all vehicles in private servers made by players

The choppers are a huge pain in the ass especially when your the only one with a AA launcher

The count down timer per vehicle in BF Hardline is amazing. The 2042 count down timer is just lame, once the timer noted, say above the chopper, counts down to zero, the hovercraft becomes available... wtf? you then have to wait an unspecified amount of time for the choppers to spawn, with no count down timers mind you. And this is when none of your teams choppers are in the air. Fn ridiculous.

The only thing I disagree with is that infantry lock on rockets aren't good enough. Maybe something changed in the two months since this video, but it definitely only takes two rockets to take out air vehicles (not counting transports). A single infantry rocket does 60% damage now. Pair that with the fact every person on the ground can have a rocket, with the increased player count it makes flying useless. You'll spawn, get locked by two or more people, pop flares, and immediately get locked by 5 more. Otherwise you absolutely nailed all the problems this game has. Only extra point I have is jets are absolutely useless, they're supposed to be good anti-vehicle and sure against other air they can do it, but since they nerfed air to ground missiles on jets they can't do anything to help on the ground. It's literally impossible to kill infantry in jets, in the past it was hard but possible, a good pilot could strafe the ground and get a couple kills, now you can't do that in any form. So if there's no vehicles on the enemy team currently as a jet pilot you just have to fly around with your thumb up your arse.

People should start exploring new ways to take down vehicles. Infantry is much more now because of the numbers, so they have more options & more launchers to lock you on and make you double think before having your vehicle exposed. Specialists is not unbalancing this section. Only that people think always negative about it. This is why people should be more aware of what the scenario / situation they are engaging in that particular lobby.

How about the aircraft blow up if they run into trees and buildings. Repairing and Unlimited ammo is ridiculous. Give the AA launcher a timer to respawn and a faster reload. The flares seem to work even when they are hacked. Not fired because they see the hack but hack switch to launcher and he fires flares wtf. Then they fly out of the map to an area I can get to. They need to have someone repair the vehicle and return to a location to rearm or have rearm being a choice between repair and rearm. I spend the entire time trying to counter the vehicles and it is way to difficult. Im ok with tanky vehicles but they cant tank, heal and have unlimited ammo and access to areas that are safe from reach by infantry. The infantry weapons are way to weak outside of the launcher being about right. The minigun specialist can atleast do some damage to the stealth's as you cant lock on

Liz needs some more power with her rocket. that thing had a tiny hit point with the rocket passing thru helo's mostly

So disappointing that they were this lazy and treated the game this bad what a massive massive massive L I really wanted them to keep all the vehicles. They should’ve just nerfed them not get rid of them or at least bare minimum not have removed the attack vehicle slot. I’d be fine if they removed so many little bird it was a problem but they should put the stealth and little bird in its own category. I hope the best for this game but it really is disappointing to see such a waste of potential and development time.

So I'm like the opposite type of player as you. I am basically 100% infantry, but I never hesitate to take an antivehicle loadout out if a vehicle is causing issues.

I think you really explained the issues of vehicle balancing well. It really does seem to be the worst situation for infantry and vehicle players. Just yesterday I spent an entire match trying to take down an attack heli in a Caspian border rush match. Randoms are just very rarely willing to change things up to go after a vehicle that is an issue, and the vehicle and pilot become super annoying when they became damn near impossible to take down alone.

Vehicles IMO are just annoyingly suppressive in 2042 and the tankiness of them translates horribly to 64 player or 32 player game modes where inevitably you'll have even less people willing to put on an anti vehicle loadout.

What was the point in making larger maps with double the amount of players and reduce the important vehicles and balance them so badly.. and now they are making the maps smaller and smaller player teams, just puts in some useless bf3 weapons. Also, I do not understand why they made the portal mode.. we bought the new bf to play the new interesting bf, not to play some old stuff.. why not use everything on making new interesting weapons with customization and add more vehicles. They really went backwards with the updates from what bf2042 was interesting for but at the same time making the game more better in regards to better registration of hits and putting in more cover for infantry. btw, update 2.2 makes most PC players freeze or crash 90% of the time, so you can not even play if you would want to. There is still no map search filter and they seem to release smaller play modes and smaller maps with each update. Seems they are going more in the direction of CoD than Battlefield unfortunately, I thought they were going to balance out the already existing CoD theme with some more battlefield. Too bad.

True I think jet and helis should have their own spawn count

Jets suck major ass, helicopters are op, tanks suck but could be good if you could make a squad, wildcat is balanced, every other ground vehicle sucks. In a game where maps are so big you have to drive minutes to reach combat just get instantly deleted because no squad i don't see the point of using tanks

It's just crazy that it's not like they were discovering things and improving the model at each game making it better and better each time. They actually had something that perfectly worked before and managed to go backwards.

The statement on getting noticed for good air vehicle play in BF4 is soo true. After two games of 30+ kills, I got so many friend request for people wanting to fly with me as pilot.

But leave the nightbird alone lol, the HP is so low and you can get shot out of it too lol

when they killed the NTW and made it better vs infantry even tho its a anti material rifle was when it all happened

Incompetent jet pilot here
A little bird with laser painter and guided missles is a top dog in the air
Air vs air
Air vs ground vehicle
Air vs infantry

Inter-play computer versus Console
Multichoice user interfaces are much easier to navigate on mouse and keyboard than controller
Losing microseconds In console is frustrating and unneeded

I just want infantry only maps...

While some changes have taken place, I feel your video is spot on. Personally I am not a fan of BF2 Bad company, BF3 or BF4, but those games did do somethings much better than BF1, FB5 or BF2042. Maybe the new team has been given more freedom from EA oversight, only time will tell.

The vehicles never where really overpowered.
Battlefield just lost the whole teamplay and community aspect!
Some vehicles where even stronger in the older titles, but everyone played to together and did something against them.

and now we have the railgun tank. Throwing all standarts of power and balance away, being the definition of overpowered in good hands, and still an absolute monster in a noob's hands

Thanks for addressing the mentality of players not taking out vehicles by switching loadouts.

every vechile should have a SWEET SPOT 1 hit and done to have to hit a copter or a tank 4 times when your only givin 3 recoiless is just dumb

Great points!! 2042 is proof that lowering the skill gap is a terrible idea.

If you don’t like vehicles in games, then maybe play some games without vehicles? Maybe Call of Duty or Overwatch or something? What makes Battlefield special is the vehicles. The whole reason vehicles are in battles these days is because they are pretty effective at what they do. The vehicles also give players an opportunity to work together, a fully crewed vehicle coordinating with each other should be extremely effective. In a game where everyone runs off by themselves and tries to be a one man army I really appreciate how vehicles reward you for teamwork.

It‘s legit the worst fps Shooter I‘ve ever Played. Even bf5 is better than this crap

It was fine in the last games 😂 you could spawn in and pick a vehicle in the spawn without having to wait in “lobby” while spamming…. Stupid system that didn’t need changing. Put back the spawning area for vehicles so we can just hop right in. Spawn every few seconds. It’s honestly annoying having to wait.

You can counter anything if you play as a team. Period. You can have 20 people with AA launchers and nobody will fly...but yeah players need to focus. Is not a bad game compared with the shitfest we had since BF4. I am not a fan of those classes/characters I would love to have my four basic classes and the option to customise my character gender etc.

The one thing I want for vehicles is a fucking testing ground. I can’t get used to them if I am constantly getting shot at.

Battlefield 4 I jumped in a tank got blown up it’s okay coming with a next tank in battlefield 2042 have to wait two days for a tank or any other vehicle

There's not enough vehicles. One tank per map ? Seriously ? Wack 👎

The problem is they tried to be more like COD and make it so literally anyone can get a kill. Battlefield used to be for more skilled players. My brother hated battlefield and sucked at it, but loved COD. Aim in the general direction of someone and it snaps on to them and literally follows them, aiming for you (on console). He couldn't get a kill in battlefield 3 or 4. Especially on console it takes skill to kill in battlefield 3 and 4 because aim assist doesn't do much for you, you have to be good on the sticks

As a very old battlefield player, Yes, ure right in every point, and im so sad about it, how they can ruin a game that was already successful..

I hate the physics based movement of vehicles, everything feels so sloppy and unresponsive to control inputs, tanks feel like they all have that input acceleration and it’s so hard to get a accurate shot on anything

I'm a battlefield player since 2142.
I just unistalled this one because vehicules are over powered, first time I did somehting like this. My feelings is like : impossible to play infantery, take a vehicule, or die.
They simply decided to give too many freedom for players, I'll not extend my argument but... battlefield licence is officialy dead.
I stop.
Bye.

A 4x4 truck shouldn't take as slow as a rank to go forward. Whoever thought that shouod be a thing should be fired

I played recently and it’s definitely gotten better but infantry are starting to become more powerful than vehicles. They’re moving up on the food chain and with the nerfing of vehicle weapons along with spamming powerful gadgets/ launchers vehicles are becoming obsolete.

for me, the balance between infantary and vehicles in 2042 is better compared to bf3 and bf4. In bf3 or bf4, if you encounter a very good jet or helicopter pilot, it will be almost impossible to kill him. In battlefield 2042 instead, you have LIS’s TGM to kill enemy jets and the Rorsch MK-4 to snipe the enemy pilot out of his helicopter. You can be basically a human anti-air. I play as lis using rorsch to kill enemy choppers and her tgm to kill enemies jets.

impossible to get a tank