Lelit Elizabeth LCC user functions and overview

which one do you recomand?

Can you get boiling water close to 100 degrees Celsius out of that hot water spout to make tea or cup noodles quickly from the Elizabeth? Your videos and sway articles have really helped me. I have my eyes now set on Lelit Elizabeth v3 when local retailer starts selling it in New Zealand. I was initially looking at Profitec 500, 300 then Lelit Bianca then Mara X but the Elizabeth does everything we want with less mucking around with 2 button presets. Which grinder would you recommend that is under USD $800

Very informativ and easy to understand. As an Italian it is an honor, that you use and appreciate italian made espresso machines. I'm goingo to buy either the Elizabeth or the Mara X, I know the main differences in terms of E61 Brew groupe and that of Elizabeth. Space is importmant in my 3,5 meters long but only 1,80 mt bright kitchen. Can you tell me more details about results and warming time and taste and consistence of the espresso out of the 2 machines? as you have both, if you have to chose, which one would you keep? Thanks in advance. cheers

Great video. Can i ask one thing. I see you have 2 buttons where you can set the timer for each one. What is the purpose of having 2 buttons that offer the same function but with different settings if you wish? Is this so you button 1 pulls shots, then when you have run out of water, button 2 pulls more shots? Or is so that husband sets up his settings on button 1 while wife sets up settings on button 2? And would you say the elizabeth is more for a shop vs two people living at home? Seems like its a lot of machine. I'm trying to decide between ANNA 2, VICTORIA and ELizabeth

Hi Dave,

First of, just want to say thank you for all the work behind the videos, very helpful insights into these machines.

I am in a dilemma between the Mara X and the Eliabeth.
I have 3 quick questions i would like to ask you regarding them.

1. Based on the components used in the machine, which is more durable?
2. Which machine is easier to keep clean, i.e. in the grouphead (E61 vs saturated), backflushing, descaling etc.
3. Which machine would you personally get/keep

From all the information i have gathered so far, Elizabeth is technologically advanced, not only in terms of dual boiler, but in the LLC controls as well. I am expecting great shots with 99% of beans, compared to maybe 95% of the time on the Mara, notably weaker with light roast.
Both machines are priced the same at the moment where i am at, with a usage scenario of 2 lattes twice a day.

Thanks once again

Hi Dave! I programed the LCC with the recommendation you made in your review. It's always your "best" settings or do you update them since this time?

Hi Dave! Thanks for sharing these videos. Super helpful. I'm looking into getting my first dual boiler machine, and I'm seriously eyeing the Elizabeth, but I have a question. Does the use of steam preinfusion limit the milk-steaming capability in some way? I'm just thinking that if I were to steam milk while I pull my shot (and given the relatively small boiler size), the steam used for preinfusion might "steal" from the steam for milk frothing. Again, not sure exactly how this works or if the preinfusion uses all that much steam anyway, so any insight would be great. Thanks!

Had tough time hearing you clearly.

Dave - truly enjoy your research and video content…thanks to your detailed review I bought the Niche grinder last Nov…I’m ready to upgrade from Breville Infuser ( using and learning since 8/20)…I am conflicted between Mara X and Elizabeth…the price difference is so close…I like the classic looks of Mara X and your recap of its innovative features in the world of HX…you seem equally bullish about Elizabeth with all of it LCC magic….my utilization is 2-4 shots/day with 50% involving foam….if I go Mara X I will buy the wood knob kit and a wood handle bottomless for that special “Bianca” look! Is the Mara X stainless boiler a deciding factor in its favor? Is the 3 yer warranty on Elizabeth vs 1 year on Mara X a compelling differentiator? I noted on home- barista a comment from you wherein you preferred the Elizabeth citing a quieter pump. Since most of your reviews are a year old can you share any insights that will help me past my gridlock? I expect to buy this Monday 6/28… Thanks in advance.

Hi Dave! There are a lot of opinions about right balance of quantity of ground coffee, final (terminal ;) weight of espresso and optimal time to prepare a nice shot of espresso. For example, many experts advise to start with ratio of 1:2 of ground coffee to weight of espresso and aim for range of 20 to 30 seconds. Looking at this approach and making without pre-infusion or blooming phase. My question is : does the time have to be counted from the moment of pressing button number 1 /number 2 - that instant when the pump initiates an espresso cycle, Lelit pl92t does spectacular job recording this time, OR does the time have to be counted from the instant of the first drops of espresso in the cup? The latter time can be recorded by scale with a built-in automatic timer. Thank you for awesome, valuable works you do for coffee lovers.

"Coffee slide close enough to do a single." Thank you for this! I like doing single shots but hate the extra step of having to pull the shot into one vessel (double shot capacity) only to have to pour it into another (single). I currently use the Sage Barista Pro. Although it's a great machine, I find the more I research, the more quickly I want to upgrade. When the time comes, the Lelit Elizabeth is going to be a strong contender.

Like the Elisabet but as well Profitec Pro 300 both are similar in size and have two Boilers . Agree Elisabeth has more options but the Pro 300 looks more sturdy and has a better build

Helpful video, thank you

Hi Dave. Thanks for the info. I was thinking of getting the Lelit Mara X until I read it had a 25mm warm up time. I’m used to a barista express but I’ve an itch for a good quality machine to change it too. I was toying with a few others such as the Ascaso Duo PID and Profitec Go (or the ECM Casa V but no PID) but I came across the Lelit Elizabeth and I’m now tempted by it based on its size and it looks good enough too. Any thoughts? Particularly in comparing to the Mara x. Cheers

Hi , is also a description of the advanced settings for Lelit Victoria somewhere available? Is see more people aski g for that, but nowhere to find. Tnx in advance for any info.

Hey Dave, thanks for all your work you are doing for the community! Just a quick questions: Are all the Lelit Elizabeth Advanced LCC Settings tested on a Elizabeth V3? Because the standard values on my V3 deviate quite a lot from your recommended values.
My deviating values: KPc 2.0, KIc 0.04, KDc 1.0, KDs 20.0, Bs 30

Is it enough to just change the lcc on my elizabeth v2 machine to use the lcc features in lelit elizabeth v3?

Hi Dave, thanks for your great contribution to the community. I got my Lelit Elizabeth V3 with firmware 5.07 last week and after changing the PID to show the actual temperature, I noticed that it heats up very quickly after both hot water and coffee brewing, but the PID overdrives so much (99 instead of 91 degrees) that it takes over three minutes to get back to my desired temperature of 91 degrees.

I have therefore changed my PID settings to your recommended settings. The overshoot is gone, but the reheating is now a little too slow for me.

Hence my question: Which parameter regulates how aggressively/quickly the PID reheats? I would like to adjust this value just a tiny bit, then the setting would be perfect.

Thanks in advance!