Author Eiren Caffall joins Chris Hedges to discuss her novel and memoir, and the consequences of a society unable to accept its own mortality.
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(0:00) Intro
(2:31) Disease denial
(6:14) Climate denial
(10:56) Eiren’s frenetic existence
(13:06) Eiren’s child and eugenicism
(15:54) The importance of culture and memory
(20:53) The museum logbook
(25:13) Telling the story through a child’s POV
(27:16) Hyper-masculinity in literature
(28:00) Violence in disintegrating societies
(33:53) Race
(35:15) Moby Dick
(40:52) Shielding the Flame
(41:37) Greed
(46:10) Outro