Huge Open Source Drama

I'm not a systemadmin ... but I am a systemadmin, see I just setup like 3 servers and run them. Used to be on CentOS 7 and 8.. and then well.. I don't remember what Redhat did to CentOS exactly, but all I knew was that I didn't want the whole uncertainty, see as the only systemadmin in my small company, I don't want that.

Switched to another linux distribution, and am happy ever since.

Open Source is the literal example of communism

... --> Open Office --> Libra Office
The market will fix itself

Not a lawyer, but
I don't think it would be too hard for the linux foundation to shut this nonsense down immediately. A simple change to the linux kernel licensing agreement could probably fix this mess up

Dumped Redhat long ago. Use mainly Debian distros now. They seem to be more stable anyway.

It’s time to give up fedora now I am moving to arch for now and forever

Oh another big company devoting themselves to the stock market… how am I not surprised

DOOM is a game that is paid but open source

Thank you for all of your hard work: perfect Ansible roles, interesting videos, all that stuff and more. And thank you for standing for the community of users.

Who'll benefit? In the short term, some Idiots that Became Managers. In the long term, nobody.

There was a fun fiction in the past (I can try to find link, but it is in Russian anyway, so of little use for many of you). The core idea was that IBM who openly declares itself as the best Linux and FOSS friend, is at the same time executing the famous "embrace, extend, extinguish" formula against Linux and FOSS. I worried when they bought Red Hat, that this fiction may be true. Guess what? No, this move was not predicted in the fiction, but lies so in line with it, so I fear that it's really true. And it's not fun anymore.

Debian and Ubuntu all the way.

If anyone is a FreeLoader it's RedHat they do very little compared to the users that contribute.

Bro think he pryocnical

Huge drama

Excuse me? Reading that and insisting it allows holding Linux source for ransom is some next level gaslighting, that is absolutely not permitted

As someone on the outside looking in, why would you want to alienate in anyway such an already small and niche part of the computing community. Big business just keeps shitting it's pants lately completely missing the forest for the trees

Debian is there. Seems like it has always been there. No BS, getting better with every version. Stable, not getting in the way, supporting old architectures for the longest time. If you value having an OS that you don't need to be concerned with, choose Debian.

Reminds me of my time on the DevRant app.

All that is so sad, and scary... well, what about... (I know it might sound crazy), ...what about Ansible? (made by Red Hat), should we actually be worried about future Red Hat steps impact on Ansible??? Is it a time to look around or plan switching to other automation platform?

As always, greed. Some authors of popular open source libraries available on Github, complain that their library is used by large companies, that do not even give a penny in return. Especially banks, apparently. Yes, it's open source, it's free, but it wouldn't hurt for large companies that hold all the money, to give a few thousand bucks. Developing the same libraries internally would cost companies tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

i dont even use linux but this is fucked up in general for any type of open source code projects

Welp, IBM gonna IBM, making themselves obsolete once again.

I have used Linux since Ubuntu 12.04, and have used it full time on all my machines since 2017 on Manjaro. I am not a sysadmin, I've never run a server, I am not even that confident in the Terminal, so I've never really understood Red Hat ecosystem. I remember trying a few Red Hat Adjacent distros like CentOS and OpenSUSE in Virtual Machines just because I wanted to understand what was so special about it and I really didn't get it. They just sorta felt antiquated and old fashioned, certainly compared to stuff in the Debian based and Arch based worlds.

But of course, I think from the perspective of a desktop user, not a server user, so maybe theres some nuance I don't understand, but from my perspective I always felt like the Red Hat world was just a relic from a bygone era that was mostly being left in the dust by the Debian/Ubuntu based stuff, that was only really still around for old time's sake, and because IBM keeps it around I guess.

But this is the beauty of open source software, if one piece of software isn't working for you, abandon it for something that does and support that instead. Red Hat isn't the only game in town, thats the entire point of Linux. Abandon it and let it rot.

I think the only one who has seen this coming is Richard Stallman :)

Thank you for being a voice of the many who believe in open source as freedom of knowlegde. Your point of view is perfect.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? I'm Jeff Geerling."

Red hat effectively shot itself in the face from the moment IBM purchased it.

I want so badly a new Canonical. Someone who takes Debian and adds fixed, predictable releases with long support cycles.

Could you do a part 2 do this video about what you think about OpenSUSE forking RHEL??

Thank you for your time;
Monte

Thanks for the news!
Well... that unfortunate!

Simply don't use redhat?

Totally agree, and i know they're losing business because of all this, huge support contracts have dropped and migration to other OS's have begun. Sad state to be in RedHat..

if you nerds actually came together under one standard, one desktop, one package manager then redhat wouldnt do anything like this. so much man power but wasted by not being united.

I am surprised it took this long

I left 2 decades ago. I am actually surprised it took this long to get to this point.

Red Hat is gone. IBM swallowed it whole. I'm team Debian now.

Why isn't Fedora affected by Red Hat's choices? I've been running Fedora Server for as long as I can remember and as far as I'm concerned, I can take all the knowledge I use to admin fedora and directly use it on Rocky and RHEL (Other than the subscription package manager stuff.)

calling me a freeloader is enough for me to shitcan them..end of story

When I started using linux in 1997 there was 3 players: Slackware, Debian, Redhat ... I went with Debian and always thought it was wrong that Redhat CHARGED for open source... oh sorry your paying for the support not the OS.

Redhat is a pimple on the butt of open source and linux

Let's open source everything and consider proprietary software and institutions to be nefarious and untrustworthy

IBM is in the business to make money. Period. My career on computers, mainframes, started in the mid-1970’s. IBM has done this sort of thing many times during my career. When RH announced they were partnering with IBM, I knew this day would come. Many of us in the RH community and Linux community raised many warnings. Shame on you RH. It always boils down to money. I use to use Centos, loved it. Now it’s gone. ☹

IBM lost me 25 years ago when they hired a tobacco salesman as CEO.

Debian! 🤗

The sad thing is at one point Red Hat could have been THE company to make Linux mainstream, but they chose the path of the capitalist and focused only on big businesses. If they had just chosen a different path and focused on the general public, we could have had a proper competitor to Microsoft and Apple.

best competitor to your engineering when it comes to software or hardware... is not another corporation, it is open source... because why have 1 competitor... when you can have them all?

Damn. And here I was about to get all involved with learning how to install and use Red Hat on an old HP Integrity Itanium Server.

I've been a linux admin for around 30 years (yes, pre-1.0 kernel) and even got my RHSCA at the request of an employer along the way. However I've always been very distrustful of red hat because of their love of pay/data walls (you've had to sign up to even download ISOs for as long as I can remember). I standardized all my personal IT stuff on Ubuntu around 12.04 and never looked back.

bur rpm developed by red hat

GO ORACLE. . . !

BIRDS IN SPACE. . OH YEA BABY. . !

Red Hat posted an official response. In it, they wrote:

"Simply rebuilding code, without adding value or changing it in any way, represents a real threat to open source companies everywhere."

Paraphrasing: those who use open source code and don't contribute back are "a real threat to open source companies everywhere"

I call these people: users.

I fight for the users.