Every Persona 5 Royal Palace Ranked

I agree with you on no.1. As a Maruki simp I prefer Sae’s palace

I'd personally say that Okumara's palace has good idea's. The execution was just terrible. I think that the palace itself should lay more focus on baton-passes since the boss requires you to use them and the first half should be about Morgana's arc and second half about Haru's arc

“I hate Morgana” 💀

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Bro I’m just gonna say it okumura is not that hard. It’s really not. You have literally been preparing for this since the beginning of the game by this point you should know how to work these mechanics and how to strategize to deal with multiple enemies at the same time I mean, for God sake, they literally teach you the baton mechanic and how to increase your damage you should also have strong personas by this point and no how to exploit weaknesses and effects to get technical damage Killing every enemy at the same time is not a difficult challenge, especially if you’re using baton Pass and applying buffs this entire boss fight is just a knowledge check

Fucking Morgana

My issue with the whole "Depths of Momentos" is that its supposed to be hard. Its not supposed to be a pretty palace its not supposed to be a beautiful area you want to look at, its cold and dark, just like the reality of what the PTs discover

I dont engage with the community a bunch so i didnt realise futaba was a disliked character which is so wild to me, i relate to her the most, im autistic myself so her hyper fixations and way of talking were endearing parts of her character to me, i giggle at a ton of her lines and imo she has the funniest line in the game when you get turned into rats and fox makes his rat puns and futaba's just like "ugh go to hell inari" that makes me die laughing everytime

Persona 4 spoilers in a persona 5 video 😞

Personally I think the Airlocks in Okumura's Palace weren't bad, quite the opposite in fact.

You kinda missed the truth about Shido. He says he was chosen by God and that why he’s the way he is and does what he does. Turns out he’s not wrong as Yaldo gave him the power to do what he did. Plus without that final chapter you don’t understand Akechi being able to use 2 different personas and why he and Joker parallel each other. Oh and we get real Igor so that’s a major dub

My main complaints about Labratory of sorrow are,

1. There's a lot of backtracking (ik there's quite a bit of backtracking in Casino of envy too but it isn't nearly as bad)
2. The boss was disappointingly easy. Don't get me wrong, it's (along with Shido and Sae) a top contender for the best bossfight but I found him to be easier than Yaldaboth and I used I.N.O.P (aka the most broken persona in the entire series) whilst fighting Yaldie on both my playthroughs. Considering how insanely powerful maruki is, I expected him to be harder and I was playing on mercyless. Tldr, I like when the difficulty of the final boss reflects how powerful the boss is in the lore which sadly isn't the case with maruki. It could also be that I only used ultimate personas for that section. If u wonder, those were Satanael (still not sure if he's the true ultimate fool persona or Arsene's 2nd awakening), Satan, Lucifer, Maria, Chi-you, Cybele, Alice and the ultimate Councilor persona which I forgot the bame of.

I honestly find it very funny that you played maruki's palace on easy.
Like is this your first RPG?

I couldn't find any data on how much screen time Kamoshida and Shido get exactly but the starter villain having more of a presence than the big bad is jarring. What's also jarring is the fact that it doesn't even feel like Shido is phased out of the plot too well before his long break and eventual return.

During Madarame's Palace, or rather what happens outside it I always get a kick out of the part where Ann and Yusuke are cornered by Madarame and Ann grabs Yusuke from behind and drags him into the back store room like "yoink!"

Question, would changing the order of the palaces dampen or strengthen their impact? For example, in a world where this creators version of the nude model scene exists, would Madarame’s palace make sense as the second one? Or could it be the third one for a more enhanced effect. Ann’s feeling down lately, if you do her social status which is truly beneficial to have early game, you’ll see she is slowly building her confidence in herself through workouts and finally taking modeling seriously. Then comes Madarame’s storyline and she offers to pose nude, she could still be uncomfortable because while she is a model…she’s not That kind of model…and the scene plays out normally. This makes that scene both comedic as well as empowering because Ann’s journey comes full circle where she takes back what Kamoshida stole…her self esteem and confidence

You can absolutely extort the hell out of mementos.... You can get so much money

RT did it and you know he is the gambling Man pffft 🤣🤣

Also, i know I’m really late to the party but; the group was also worried because the principal died and people were suspended it was the phantom thieve’s doing. So, Morgana getting pissy at them for not agreeing to go after Okumura just makes him look like an arrogant asshole.
Plus, the way his arc is framed; it just looks like he’s mad about Futaba taking his role as the Navigator, Especially when he didn’t make a big stink about Makoto joining the group.

I'm confused, at what point was morgana gonna join okumara?

Marukis palace is so good to me for the fact it makes you face a dilemma. What Maruki is doing may be extreme but is similar to what the phantom thieves do. Changing people forcibly for the greater good. The whole story behind it too is just sad and everything about the palace is peak. I’m so glad that it was as good as it was and not just a sloppy addition that atlus did to get more money.

He isn’t fat he’s just husky

I couldn't agree MORE

Every single one is dogshit and by far the worst part of the entire game!!!! Its like they took the worst part of 4 and made it way worse

P5R is such an amazing game!

Actually if Okumura makes one of the robots charge the self destruct it's actually helpful to you, because you don't need to destroy that one to end the wave so you can just focus on destroying the other three.

God, did I disagree, but it’s also kinda nuts how we shared exact specific points. Well made vid regardless <<<333

Yaldabaoth is so disappointing as a deity. Even ignoring some like Lucifer but even when comparing him to Persona deities he is lackluster. Nyarlathotep is a really solid main antagonist, Nyx Avatar's boss is iconic and both Izanami and Demiurge EMMA are interesting considering their forms and somewhat benevolent natures. There is a reason why was he replaced with Maruki as the final boss

Honestly, I like how Kamoshida wasn't connected to shido at all unlike the other rulers

Hot Take: I really love Okumura's Palace. Maybe it's just my love of puzzles like the Airlock puzzle, but it is one of my absolute favorite Palaces. The music slaps, the boss fight honestly isn't that bad if you remember which robots are weak to which, and requires remembering the many mini boss fights across the Palace, and I never found myself running out of time.

Fun fact: That's Makoto Naegi's VA voicing Human Morgana

And Ironically, it's not the first time he voiced a character associated with a cat

Chat Noir from Miraculous Ladybug yup..... That's him

Fun fact: Royal is the only version that has the After battle Reload for your guns

In the original version if you use up your bullets in a Palace run, guess what you gotta leave the Palace completely and come back the next day

They definitely characterized Kamoshida the best way

They made him such a Slimy prick I couldn't wait to kick his ass


And I love Akechi in this game so much, his back story and the whole thing of wanting to take down Shido

I always thought "Don't worry, I'll go kick your Bastard father for you.......... Partner."

I hated Okumura's Arc the most because of Morgana

Dude, screw that stupid cat for being that way

Fun Fact: Cognitive Haru in Okumura's Spaceport is only in the Royal version

So is the other Cognitive versions that are in boss fights


Mishima and Shiho in That sicko Kamoshida's Palace for instance

me o i got spoild

I'm sorry but if you don't see why fighting the representation of the public's sloth to always chose strong charismatic leaders to blindly follow instead of the lazy "mean politician is beaten so we're done, there's no underlying issue to adress"
You didn't really understand Persona 5's message.

No offense man but like, you ranked one of the best palaces very low because you suck at the game like, womp womp💀

The notebook pages can be read in the key items tab, I had to look it up

maruki’s palace is honestly PEAK FICTIONNNN. i have so so much to say abt it and philosophical shit but ill spare yall

sae’s palace is a real close 2nd place, i just wish it was longer and had an alt theme (its the only palace with 1 theme, and i mean it fucking SLAAAPS but i get tired of hearing it for like 1-2 hours on most playthroughs)

Ima be real with you this is one of the worst tier lists I've seen.

I feel like you underrated the symbolism in the Depths of Mementos. Also, the burnout you were seemingly feeling in the Quilipoth world part of the dungeon was likely due to spending about an hour on story cutscenes, however long it took you to get to the bottom of Mementos, and the whole mementos depths dungeon. Basically, on a sitting of its own, the quilipoth world is a perfectly fine addition. Also the symbolism in the dungeon is excellent, as it is with most others in the game.

- I used to feel bad for Morgana and Ryuji during the Okumura arc, but the biggest reason for the Morgana hate, as you stated in your video is that it robs Haru of much needed character development, something the game despperately needed from the original, hell Royal gave Kasumi more character development than poor Haru.
The fight with Okumura is designed around the baton pass for Royal (which got buffed?) to get around the various things helping you out (ex. Maruki's Detox ability from his confidant, the Harisen Recovery confidant ability that ALL the Phantom Thieves get besides Joker and even Ann's blasted Dekaja skill [put the AI on act freely and you will see my hatred for it and Morgana's Pulinpa]).

- Honestly, Kaneshiro's Palace is better than is made out to be in this video, it has fantastic music (which gets dropped partway through), the security cameras make sense since it is a bank, overall, I would say this Palace is better than Kamoshida's. Also the raising the security level doesn't really do anything besides increase the chance of encountering treasure demons, in the original Persona 5, it kicked you out of the Palace at 100% but they got rid of that, literally making Ohya's confidant completely useless.

- I love Futaba's Palace, it is easily in my top 5, while it's boss fight can be entirely chessed by gimmicks, the story and aesthetics more than make up for it. You want to complete the palace as soon as it is available because you want to save Futaba, not to make a bad person repent their sins.

- Kamoshida is a well written villain, it makes you want to take him down because 3/4 of the Phantom Thieves have a personal vendetta against him, especially Ann who damn near lost a friend to one man's selfish ambitions.

- Madarame's boss fight changed from being one of the easiest in P5 vanilla to arguably one of the hardest, especially on Hard or Merciless.

- Honestly, Maruki's boss fight is one of the easier ones in the game, since by that point, you are nearing or at max level, have high level Personas and your team's 3rd awakenings (shout out here to Ann and her whole party Concentrate skill and Makoto with her aoe Debilitate). Even if you do not use the busted DLC Personas, you can wipe the floor with Maruki pretty easily, it just takes time because of the gimmicky nature. Maruki's Palace theme is too soothing to me, it is one of those things you put on to help you sleep. The aesthetics of the palace are neat and the story is well written, but the boss fight and the music hold it back a little.

Just a little dumb thing you can do with Okumura’s boss fight is to use a gun amp (50% gun power) on Haru and Joker (if you’re able to have a persona with triple down), and go wild. It’s not perfect, and I still absolutely hate the fight, but hey it’s something