PHP isn't dead feat. the Laravel Origins cast

If i was to go back and teach web development, I'd definitely use PHP for my illustrations

The reason I despise php is the resource handling of php-fpm, no matter how much you configure it, it can't handle as much as say a compiled language with a static frontend using js, or if you prefer ssr as php is, next as it renders everything in rust and again serves it staticly. To me it just doesn't scratch that spot, especially when scaling a project. It's only advantage to me is you don't need to pack as much stuff to get it up and going.

Any resources to learn php in a modern way ?

PHP devs are still the lowest paid in the industry. It is also associated with Indian devs who have bad image. You can keep hyping up PHP but no one wants to work for peanuts when node and Python pay for much much higher

The benefit of PHP is that there are a lot of great offers; a great ecosystem. That said, PHP is a chore to do functional style programming in. The JS ecosystem allows a single language to be written for both BE and FE and also has a great ecosystem. It is also much friendly to a FP style of programming. Frameworks like Svelte, Remix, etc. are creating very compelling solutions going beyond full stack, all the way to edge compute and more complex distributed systems.

PHP is NOT dead but it's slowly dying.

No, I haven't come here to watch this video. I'm here to unveil the biggest truth
The dead never come back

I've been using php for almost a decade and laravel since it was 4.2x, from zend to symfony to laravel until 8.x, in the past I worked as a frontend; I've been using nodejs for socket/express or even nestjs, used to work with angular/react and vue but it felt more easier to use sveltekit as it is closee to vanilla

But in terms of speed and concurrency and thread safety, I am literally enjoying Go "golang". It is much easier to learn and lesser syntax, anyone from node/php can easily jump into it.

Learning multiple languages/frameworks isnt as bad as you think, you can solve a company's problem by using different languages, they have their own purpose.

Nice try. I've been refusing to use PHP as it was crap in 2002, so I was still using Perl. I've moved to PHP later in about 2010 when front/back code separation became standard (and now you are trying to Mix it again), used few frameworks and I'm using Laravel for last year - Holly Shit how bad it is!!! Holly shit, what are you doing in it?! Magic can not be good. Everything can be done in multiple ways - how that makes it easier? Entire point of framework is to have some standard. It's faster to build some things from scratch in PHP than to track down documentation. Building bad framework on bad language can not be good. Backward compatibility sucks. It is practical for some use, but that makes it worse as beginners are pushing out crappy packages. There are a lot of bad tutorials and false information out there. Some are version dependable, but there is no information for which version it is related to. Symphony was better. Moving to GO.
The only thing why PHP is still popular is WP, which is even worse.

ive been using php from 3.0 and till now :D

Used to love it, but in the last 10 years has become mostly useless with the releases of PHP 7 and 8. I am retiring this year so can finally just say goodbye to it.

I developed my first application with PHP.

PHP is the king of the web 80% of the web is powered by PHP

People thinking PHP is dead equates to job security and a straight forward entry for many of us who don't have the industry connections or proximity to hiring opportunities other people may have. Every new Javascript tool reminds me of things PHP does natively. And, All Hail WordPress!!!

how is the most used backend language "dead" ?

Trongate PHP check it out

its not dead, but its dying slowly. I don't like Php way to inconsistent with how it does things and counter intuitive, Not to mention dealing with .htaccess files and setting up environment is a pain the ass. I get it some people will say "Its easy to set up environment" yeah if your doing super basic shit it is.

I am happy that some people think it is dead. That way, we can keep the competition level low while they run around like chickens hopping from new framework to new framework outside of PHP!

PHP All the way for me.

PHP is simply the best.

the power of Laravel is the team is very collectif and is very creative and very friendly

Php isn’t dead, but the php foundation is certainly trying to kill it. Why is php 2005 a bad thing? I have apps that still run commercially (in fact whole businesses are running off it) in stuff I built almost 20 years ago. All I ever had to change was mysqli to pdo, and then extend my methods so there is an api with json instead of xml…. But I don’t need any features of php8 for this.

I have never used composer apart from when I was forced to using laravel in a crap job. I don’t make much money from the apps I wrote 10 to 15 years ago because they either outlive the companies, or they don’t need anything else done to them.

Coming from Django at first coding in Php (Laravel) was a bit weird but I realized there are more job openings for PHP devs in my area.

$php $makes $money $$$$

dead language

Was this sponsored by Apple?

finally someones says truths. god thanks

PHP проживет дольше, чем мы с вами 😂

Php ain't dying, ruby is lmao

Pemrograman web di Indonesia mayoritas masih pakai PHP

PHP got severely improved with PHP7 and now with PHP8 and its upcoming releases while still maintaining backwards compatibility. There are definetely some quirks and inconsistencies in PHP but that is probably true for every programming language. Just think of JavaScript and its weird comparisons ( wtfjs github repo 😆 ). But JavaScript as well is a mature language. I think what came up short is that it is not about caring about anyones opinion about a language, respectively PHP but about that if one gets a better, more experienced and professional developer, he/she will learn that JavaScript, PHP, GoLang, Java or even C++ or Assembler all have their purpose and are just tools with different advantages and use-cases. Otherwise those would not have persisted until today. Additionally, most of the most commonly used languages are pretty old. More complex modern web applications often come in microservice architectures. Writing a backend , maybe with more cpu-heavy tasks, is so awesome nowadays. However that should not discourage one to maybe use a JavaScript reactive frontend framework if it suits their needs. In other situations one may choose Laravel with Blade or Symfony with Twig to display a frontend. A JSON API without a frontend could be written with Laravel or Symfony in a very organized and well structured manner and with joy.

PHP just made me $500 bucks a month so i dont think so

i am very sorry this is now the third video that states php is dead, that's the only reason I'm here, cause NO ONE SAYS THAT; LITERALLY! So what is this joke of a statement?!

So lovely to see the big leagues coming together so as to correct the heresy being spread by rookie devs

Leaved php coding 5 years ago (around php 7). Yeah there was a ton of improvment and such, but imho i still think is dead.

sadly isn't dead, is just the programming language for brain dead people, that is the difference. and don't come to me with this nonsense of "...🤤🤡PHP of today and Laravel🤡🤤..."

I used PHP back in 2003 then 2007 then 2018, then 2022, I have used different versions of PHP, different software written in PHP, different frameworks, code igniter, cake, laravel, october, drupal, wordpress, joomly, typo3, woocommerce, and still to this day it hasn't changed my opinion. PHP is the worst programming language in human history, and I have known some obscure proprietary shit that is abhorrent like sqlbase from a company called gupta software.

I mostly work in Ruby on Rails but I also have a negative opinion about Rails, Rails sucks and by no means is great, but is still heaven compared with anything that PHP has to offer. Even the creator of PHP recognizes is trash and has apologized for creating it.

Laravel = big slowly monstrum

Jeffrey has done to much for the PHP community. He's one of the best coding teachers in the industry. Laracasts is huge.

Since php is 70% of the web and 70% of the people speak English I am going to use that one as a reply 😂

I've been experimenting with different programming languages for many years now. But when I do client side scripting I still use JavaScript as appose to JQuery, but for server side scripting my go to language is PHP all the way. However some of you guys may hate what I'm about to say, I still use PHP5 as I'm not certain about backward compatibility with PHP7 or 8. If anyone says to me that PHP is a dead language, I would say then how do you explain that most of the popular CMS programs use PHP as it's base.

I did so some coding with PERL and I hated it, web development with PYTHON I wouldn't touch with a ten foot barge pole.

they hate things they don't understand

I love that Jeffrey kept mentioning Wordpress and Laravel. 64% of the web is wordpress. the end.

I never seen interoperablity and package management couple in any language like PHP. Let me know if you have anything like PSR PHP-FIG and Composer

ok ok ok after more than 15 years, i'm gonna take a look at what's new

PHP: The bill payer

php is not only for web development it iis also for building good backend for others apps and more . i love php

Php was a language that came earlier than its time. If php came after ruby or node it would have been revolutionary because of its ease of use. Look at JavaScript with all the complexity and complications people love it because they feel that complicated means sophistication.

If shared hosting started to support node, I think that websites with PHP would start to disappear over time. Today, every hosting supports PHP whether it is a shared hosting or not. Node only has the disadvantage that the client is forced to buy a VPS or AWS to deploy the application...

That's why Wordpress is so well-known because hostings allow you to install those spaghetti codes from wordpress cms with one click, if hosting companies would do this on node where some cms is installed that can be done the same way as wordpress with node, it would be interesting for the PHP community.