PROS and CONS of the Wing-T Offense

Leave it to a spread guy to make a list about wing-t 😒. I disagree with everything he said but 2 things. I don’t get why coaches can’t see that the wing-t is in the new era of the system like Gun-t,pistol wing-t. I am a die hard wing-t guy and I have had all state QB’s and we have came back from behind and won games and championships. We do throw the ball in the wing-t. There is no cons to the wing-t

lol the state of IL runs on Wing-t

wing t is one of the worst offenses ever

I got a pro for u that u didn't cover. The best team(most successful) around my area of alabama is the fyffe red devils. They run wing t. They run in from c team pee wee all the way to varsity. The head coach has it planned out how much of the offense they learn at each lvl so by the time they hit freshman year they know the entire playbook by heart. It would be hard to have a c b and a peewee team run your air raid offense

Can’t tell if he’s being serious

Pros:
Its fun to watch , its not as popular anymore in some areas, which makes it tough to prepare for in a week, tough to defend to begin with, very deceptive, PLENTY of resources out there on it , (but theres also plenty of resources on defending it as well) easy to teach, built on solid core philosophy, economy of plays, for ex off buck sweep you get 3-4 other plays as well, gets multiple ball carriers involved, the base scheme is adapatable to multiple personnel sets, and formations (I, Split backs, gun etc..)

Cons:
Needs 2 good pulling guards, 2 backs = extra hat, you'll see a 8th or 9th hat down a lot VS the run, mostly limited to PA in the pass game , some guys will run 3-5 step of it , but its a run based offense (Minus Chuck Klausing) , just as many resources available on defending it as running it , Mickey Matthews at JMU defended the Wing T better than anyone, some say he was the reason Tubby dropped it his last few years, if anyone has those DVD's youre going to have a really tough go of it,

Also one very real thing to consider is how kids and parents are today,.....if they dont like the scheme a school runs, theyll go elsewhere , it wasnt like that years ago, but now kids/parents are fickle as hell, so it may limit your ability to recruit, but again, its kinda built for that


IMO still an excellent choice, you could do much worse

The guards take u everywhere ngl

Our local high school here in Ohio has ran wing t forever and the coach here since 07 has done truly outstanding things running the scheme the last 10yrs at a small D6 school. 9 years playoffs, 2 final fours, all while running wing t. We run some shotgun spread out of it, but 90% are running, had some great pulling guards over the years.

Yea I play quarterback and starting my sophomore year and I can throw it really good but I was at a school that coached wing T, and i had to leave because I wanted to throw I wanted a opportunity to get offers

Wing T for life, Hash to Hash ! Big splits ! Trap, sweep, belly, boot, power and counter!

If you got the talent. You sell sell sell. The Wing T effective if executed properly. And even come from behind even in 4th qt. But most team use it. Dont have the talent. So the coach needs to be sure his players have 3 or 4 plays they run well. With limited play calling like that. You can still be effective. As a coach your job is to put your players in the best position, to win. Big complex playbook might be two much info 2 pass plays 3 runs. You got variables in routes field location. Inside, outside, delays and draws oh my. If u got a guy that can break a few big runs. You in there.

Do u think option is similar to Wing T

what if we combine Flexbone wing T and wishbone offense? Has it been done?

My high school ran this offensive and won 2 state championships but it did help we had dudes who could take it the house 🏠

People like the Wing-T but in todays game, it just doesn't work, especially at the higher levels. At least in Texas at the top levels. Too many athletes around to be one dimensional. If you get behind in the wing-t, it's hard to get back into it, due to it being very limiting in the offense. A lot of kids don't want to be blockers these days, they want to catch the ball and run routes, etc. We're in a day and age where the spread offenses are more popular and seem to work better.

Older style offenses like the wing-t and triple option, etc, can feel out dated and not work as good.

Was on a staff that ran the Wing-T and our starting QB got hurt in week 2. The backup was not as good as the starter. Led us all the way to a state championship.

I believe the first con is not completely accurate. If you are successful with the Wing T, then that’s all that should matter. If the kids are selfless then they’ll want to win no matter what. Those kids that hate it are usually selfish and entitled. They need to go anyways. Also, there are ways to utilize every position in the wing T.

The only con that I’m concerned about running the Wing T is if you trail you lose.

Kids don’t like it? As an OL coach my kids have loved playing in this offense much more than compared to when I have had to coach in a spread tempo or RPO scheme. Very big guy friendly. Also kids would enjoy winning with this rather than losing in spread because it doesn’t fit our talent.

I also disagree with being down, and not being able to come back. Done that several times. Contrary to popular belief, you can still pass out of the wing t. You can even have a gun quick game package.

Agree with you on the administrators passing up great coaches. Some idiot administrators and fans/ parents would rather lose in the spread than win with the wing t.

Wing t is good but I hate it

Besides the hiring practices, not a very well informed video.

My team ran the wing T in high school. It’s a terrible offense imo. It’s great if you the personnel to run it I guess, but you better have some horses that can grind on that O-line because your skill guys HAVE to clear that first level to get any open grass or make somebody miss. There’s a reason almost no college or pro teams would even consider it. It’s terrible for big plays, and there’s no room for improv. If it’s not done how it’s drawn up forget it. It’s predicable, and like he said it’s painfully boring.

Nothing kills participation like getting your brains beat in game after game. Wanna kill participation? Run an air raid offense, turn the ball over 5 times a game and lose by 40.

I have NO idea where you get these CON facts from other than pulling them from out of your! Not 1 of them is accurate Your Pros aren't even accurate. This entire segment is TRASH I From someone who simply does not like Wing T football The fact that your a coach is a disgrace

You don't have to have great athletes to run it!

As a high school player our team has ran a spread pistol offense and went 1-19 in 2 years. The kids were just done with it. So if your losing it doesn’t matter what your scheme is. We hired a new coach and have just switched to the i form. Hopefully we’ll see if we can have a winning season. It’s been awhile.

I love the wing t game it's a great offense and always has been fun to play

Respectfully, I disagree. I ran the Wing-T for more than 10 years and was very successful. It is the perfect HS offense.

Your first con I disagree! You talk to any kid that has played for Oakdale California. All they talk about is thier " system "! They start Wing-t in peewee. By high school the know they know the " system " 2 x 1,000 yard rushers every year. one year 3x 1,000. rushers. I trust the " system "!

I’m sorry but to start off saying if you run wing t kids won’t like it? No way, if you run this correctly I have never had a kid say they don’t like it. People who don’t like wing t 9/10 times, they really don’t understand football plain and simple.

Who I's this guy ???

Helped a HS team a few years back against a team that ran this, and ran it well. For every play we stopped, we'd get gashed the next for 5 yards, simply because we couldn't adjust to the shifts and movement, leaving us flat footed, confused as to who was going where, who was getting the ball. They were also fairly quick to get to the line of scrimmage, and get the ball snapped when they were ready, on their schedule, not ours. This team also threw some, maybe 1 out of 10 plays but almost all were good for short completions, as we were again caught off guard, and the QB didn't have to go through progressions. Maybe 2 guys, that's it. If not open, he took off and ran for 2+ yards. Even when behind, they still ran this offense, no change. I can't remember if we beat them or not, I think so. But I also seem to remember them finishing the season something like 7-3. I came away impressed.

I think a key is how tight can you execute it? Can your OL trap block with consistency, with smarts? Can they open holes leveraging against DL overloads? You ideally want a really good center also. Do you have at least two good runners? A RB and a flanker who can run fast and cut? Can your QB run and get you 3-5 yards if need be? Is your QB at least accurate enough of a passer to complete the occasional short timed pass? This sounds like a lot to coach, but its still a lot easier than coaching and running a spread, air-raid, run and shoot, etc. unless your QB has a big arm and looks like a NCAA prospect at 15 and your recieves catch almost anything.

Earlier in the 2022 NFL season a team ran a short yardage play off a T formation. It confused the D, and they got the first down. You never see it in the NFL, or really NCAA, because guys are too athletic, too seasoned. But in HS it can be effective, even fun to watch.

Couple things. The sweep trap and counter game is outstanding in the Wing T and can pickup big chunk yards. I find it interesting you stated in another video you hate the guys that run Wing T. There are quite of few pass plays you can run out of the Wing T. Screens floods etc. coming from behind is tough in any offense if you do not have the players. If a kid is not playing because its not a cool offense its not a kid you want IMO. You have run the offense that fits your talent. Its sad that coaches are put in a position to cater to the whims of kids

Coach I don't know what version of the wing-t you use or have seen but some of them have very elaborate passing attacks. Way back when the great Eddie Robinson coached Grambling he had a pro style passing attack with it and many other have done the same.

Wing Ts is for YOUTH Players only , High School TEAMS should NOT run this

I run Wing T, Gun, Power I and a bunch of plays I stole from the teams I watch. I have never had a losing record.

As to the cons, they may be true of those with 16YO players. But where most football is played is 8-14YO. In that case, con #1 is not applicable. The kids are just glad to be with a football club, they don't even notice the style of offense. Nor is con #3, because we're not looking for paying jobs.

Coach this was awesome, was listening to Bomani Jones podcast and he brought up the Wing-T and I honestly didn't know what it was (basketball coach problems), and this was super helpful. Cheers!

Kids want like it?? Not going to win with it?? Have you ever heard of Duplin county football in NC?? East Duplin won a State title season before last. Then there’s Wallace Rose Hill with 6 or 7 state titles. Javonte Williams of the Broncos won state titles with them. Some exciting football to watch!

I was a Wing-T coach (Conventional) for 30 years. I developed and incorporated a significate passing game WITHIN the Wing-T system. I was able to add a simple but effective four/five wide out package within this system, while maintaining the integrity OF the system, and gave defenses the "blues". Since being away for nearly 12 years now, I see where the SIMPLE incorporation of "veer" concepts within this system, makes its EVEN MORE UNSTOPABLE. Wing-T coaches, don't waist your time going to the annual mundane, state coach's clinic. Spend your money wisely. Seek out and attend ONLY coaching clinics that speak to what YOU are and want to accomplish. Do your research.. . .today's, modern offense is nothing more or less than the marriage of the conventional Wing-T offense and the contemporary Spread-Offense. Too bad that my time has past. I may not have been there for the wedding, but I am surely enjoying the reception!!!.

My high school team ran the wing t offense. I played offensive line. It's a boring offense. Especially with today's kids.

Not the best con to start with and dont really agree with that take on it but also not the most experienced coach so maybe Im wrong.
If you dont have a good QB it seems like you would try to teach a kid to be a QB and throw better...I feel like if you gave me 20 random kids I cld get atleast 2 or 3 of them spinning it in under a week.

Can you get the Cleveland Browns to run the shotgun wing t? We need all the help we can get!

Add the Delware Wing T. Passing plays.

Kids won’t have fun in a wing T? What kids are we talking about here. Southern Columbia in Pa, where he has 20 players max winning 10-12 state titles. THAT’S FUN! I was sitting at home listening to their State championship on radio because our coach went back and forth from I form to spread because he thought he was Bobby Bowden.

If you want to see effective passing from the wing T you should watch some film of The Murphy Bulldogs in Murphy,NC. From the Coach Gentry era 1984-2020, he holds the all time win record in North Carolina

Not sure who this guy is but I doubt he won many games. The wing T is a great offense for high schools. You also can absolutely have a passing game in it. The stuff you can do with the Wing T is limitless. Its best attribute is that it helps teams with weak or small O lines. It is predicated off of deception and misdirection. You might run 7 plays and gain 3 yards but that 8th play will go 70 yards for a TD.

The kids that quit to avoid power football, are not competitors anyway, good riddance.

Despite the big numbers, the spread n tempo destroyed good football. O line, front 7 defense, penalty/ turnover free efficient ball control, all dead and gone.