xTool S1 vs Wecreat Vision Head to Head - One Big Issue!

Very helpful, thanks so much.

Interesting review. A camera is never going to be as accurate as multi position marking. Thanks for the review. Pretty much settles it for me.

Really appreciate your honest, preciseness and upmost candored analysis... wish other bloggers followed your style 😊
Great job & thx! 👍👊

No. Not a module you "just click in". The WeCreate is a pain (annoyance) to swap out the IR module. The Xtool is extremely plug and play in comparison.

thanks for info. Was thinking about these machines as my first. that's a big issue that you mentioned and not really mentioned by other reviewers

It’s a no brained xtool is way better machine. And camera is a silly thing. Did you ever seen CNC machines using cameras? I don’t think so.

Of all the laser models you have, which do you use the most and why? I’m looking for a good all around option, don’t want to own 5, just one.

Any chance you could make your spreadsheet of the comparison available?

Why pay $7k for a little benchtop xTool when you can get a Thunder Laser 24 60watt for $7400 or 35 100watt for $10k?

I'm newly in the market for a machine; I'm setting up a shop and (a) always wanted one, and (b) need to organize storage and the laser cut boxes for nuts and bolts. (It's amazing how (b) tends to justify (a)!)

If you need an idea for another video, could you please consider something on handling of fumes? I'm in the position of not being able to vent outside for a while.

FYI, the Share Sale link does not appear to be active yet.

I bought a wecreat vision in febuary and within 3 weeks started having issues. There was a firmware update that completely over night ruined the auto focus feature. Customer service was albiet helpful, was a nightmare to work with because it was no phone number. one email response every 24 hrs and usually between 2-6am as they are china based. After 11 days of no fix and no solution i requestwd a refund. Finally in May, i have been reimbursed and am making the purchase for the Xtools S1 via your link and recommendation. Thank you for your genuine authenticity with your review

Hi Justin, do you want to work with Vevor again, this is Haidee:)

Let me fix one of your gripes... when u mention that it autofocuses every time for like batch engravings. If you know the width of your material why dont you simply turn off the autofocus? It allows you to input your thickness and that way it knows already and wont ask u to autofocus. Idk just a thought.

Yes the camera is not 100% accurate at the moment, hopefully they can fix the camera accuracy issue.

The best way to get very accurate laser engravings is the following.

Use the rectangle, square or circles shapes in Wecreat software and input your exact dimensions, and line it up with your material you are engraving, from what it shows on camera.

After you line up material shapes and they match the exact dimensions, you need to put the logo or design of what you are going to engrave in that drawn shaped box and use the align tool, which shows if it's centred.

After you have centred, you can auto focus and click start, and click on the frame button, which will draw outline of the box that you added in the software.

If the framing and laser is accurate around your material, everything should be good, as your content or image that you are engraving is centered within that box.

If you see the laser red dot is off, when it goes around the perimeter of the material, you can adjust the material, or adjust the shaped box in the software and move accordingly, and re frame, to see everything is aligned.

If you want to do accurate batch processing, just follow the same process above, and build a jig, to place all your material or product's in and once you have done framing on top of the jig you made and is accurate with framing, save the project file and you are good.

The framing button makes a significant difference, in being able to get accurate engravings.

With regards to auto focus, you can turn that off in settings, but I do agree, there should be an option to turn it off on the main screen, instead of having to go to settings, where it says "keep same height"

Wecreat does a great job with feedback and suggestions. If you email them this issue or any issues and suggestions, on how to improve it, they most likely will look to resolve any issues people are emailing them about, in future software updates.

Wecreat fixed a few software issues, I emailed them about, when I first bought the laser engraver.

The software has improved a lot in the new updated version, as long people keep providing new suggestions through email, the software will continue to get better.

For what it is the Wecreat has been a good machine for me and many others. We help each other through the hiccups.
Have made many cool products and have been learning new software outside of Makeit space. Makeit is getting better at doing basic to meduim difficulty projects.
Inkscape is where i play around for more advanced stuff.
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So price point. You cant beat the price on a Wecreat. Accessories and all. Thought being said ease of swaping out some of those accessories. I'd take the S1 over the Wecreat for that. The xtra safety stuff on the Xtool. YES.

Id like to get into the Xtool market some day but Ill happily make stuff to sell and donate on my Wecreat.

You don't have to autofocus at all, you can turn auto focus off and plug in the hight of material.

Is there really a big difference between 40W and 20W when it comes to engraving? From the website, it seems that 40W should only be used when cutting thick material.Would you Review Acmer P3, it's dual lasers seem to engrave better.

Actually WeCreat should have a “Repeat Last Job” button which would skip the Auto Focus and literally rerun the prior job. That would really help speed up batching with a jig.

Not sure if you’re still reading comments here. Would you please do a comparison between the xTool P2 and S1? What’s the benefits of each? Time to cut same material between the machines. Many thanks!

The vision seems to be off, likely due to the camera positioning.
It's more or less guessing where it is from The angle.

Seen this on a few videos and everyone fixed it running the calibration. Was that tried?

Very nice comparison and seemingly fair

This was a great review and focused on some seriously important aspects; ie the matchstick test. The cam on the WeCreat gave a false sense of security. I did end up going with the S1, and their camera feature is off a good 1/16" for me in one axis and 1/64" in the other. Either way, I need to run a test like you did so I can at least figure out how to compensate. Thanks and well done!

very nice information, thank you so much, I just have one question, what is the noise level when working with them? seems they are powerful noisy

Any chance you'll review the Lasermatic MK2 in the future?

Thank you, so much for your HONEST review.

I have watched many reviews lately so I might be confused but doesn't the S1 have the auto focus camera? Like maybe they added it after this review was done?

New Subscriber, Up Button Clicked and my comment: XTool Support Issues? -I realize that tech support across a lot of companies can be lacking. I have seen some really bad reviews of xTools support. Its the one outstanding item for me before I push the buy button. Can I depend on xTools to be there with good customer support?

great video, we just purchased a 40w. good to know the issues we'll face. Thanks!

I'm curious. What is the replacement cost of the CO2 cartridges for the fire suppression system on the X-tool laser? • And, is this suppression system a one-shot and replace the cartridges set-up?

Also: Have you by chance done a comparison video between the "PS2" and the "S1" lasers? I've really been debating which way to go.

One last question: What type of digital files are required for these lasers?

Thank you for doing this video. I am trying to make this decision right now.

I bought the XTOOL S1 with 40W and IR heads with all the accessories. Multiple packages should arrive in a few days.

Thanks for confirming I bought the right one :) just waiting on delivery now :)

the ps2 has a camera . hopefully that makes the x tool more efficient

Thank you for the test, it si very honest 👍