ArcheAge: The Shift Away From Pay to Win - Improvements Have Been Made!

Not up for this P2W shit. Either make it pure cosmetic or charge a set amount mounthly and give every1 the same aceess.

I shared your critique video in almost every social media where an official Archeage page existed, I hope this new change had something to do with that :)

Trion going to kill what could be a fun game.

Yeah this game is only going to be good in subscription, just my prediction.

woooo good changes i might play archage now

This P2W game isn't even worth the download...

ZiggyD, just the fact they tried to make the game as pay to win as possible and then retracted because of the community being so upset shows this company's true intent. Nothing stops them from making the gam pay to win again once many people are playing. I can't trust a company like this one. Such a sad sad company.

So something that speeds up time is pay to win.  Does that make every head start game pay to win?

Anyone who can confirm the release of a playable Dwarf race on the 16th when the game goes full release?.

Still completely garbage game

Thanks for the update Ziggy!

Love this update. Thank god

So it's STILL pay to progress with no effort from the player if you have the money... I suppose this is an "improvement" but not one that will get me playing at launch. I just don't see the point in putting effort in to be the best If it can just be bypassed by real money... Still looking like I'll be going to play WoW for this winter unless there's suggestions on other decent MMO's around?

Hey ziggy. Game looks interesting but I keep hearing that it is slow/boring. Do you see that or are they off their rocker? Thanks keep up with the vids. Ps. Need a good wander build for poe! :)

It may be less Pay to Win, but it is STILL Pay to Win.

Ziggy, when is the game going to launch?

Thanks for the video! But I'm still going to avoid this game. Even if it's not "Pay to Win", it is "Pay to gain a significant advantage" and I can't stand games like that. Subscriptions are also bullcrap... why would I pay $15 each month when I only have time to play on weekends and sometimes I'll be away from computer for weeks. Why can't gaming companies copy the Guild Wars 2 payment model where you buy the game once and then you have unlimited access to the game's content, no subscription bullshit and no cash shop crap.

g'day biggy'd hier

Anyone know how much farm will it take to buy an APEX  ( or whatever they call them ) ?

I got a question!
When I first heard of Archeage I heard about how it was from Korea and couldn't help but think it'd be like every other Korean, heavy grinding game. After watching a couple of your videos, though, I feel like Archeage has a lot of content to make sure you don't spend all your time grinding. With every MMO I've played, it seems like they are programmed with not only a cash shop but a humongous feeling of insignificance too. Do you think Archeage is the same or does the game do a good job at making you feel like you're making a difference in the virtual world? 

sigh I'm still a bit sad that the subscription exists. I'd much rather just pay 80€ for the whole game than pay 10€ a month or something... And maybe spend some cash for in-game stuff, but it's adifferent story since it's not mandatory every single month.

Still is pay to win. It's better, but still is pay to win. 

dirty move to release archeum packs that are not even guaranteed to drop archeum and what??? so i gotta pay 10 dollars to get 5 crappy archeum dusts???? really??? when you were almost guaranteed to get archeum crystals off of waterlogged chests?? this whole archeum deal has destroyed crafting and don't even ask about the crappy early launch where a bunch of founders spent hours on the queue 
 

That makes me hopeful that they listen. I'm willing to continue playing longer now. Yes. What server do you play on?

Hey man, new sub XD 
Can't wait to play in a couple of days! 
I dont blame them for the cash shop but the patron pass i thought was a little bit shit lol.
Quick question if i may, Im aussie too and wondering what the best server would be for us, people are saying ollo?

Hey Ziggy something totally off topic but : any opinion on Animist(Shadowplay/Vitalism/Sorcery)? Not as a full support but self healing and small scale healing.
I'm totally clueless as to what to play to be useful to my friends but not play a daggerspell like all do nor a full healer.

I enjoyed Alpha/Omega very much, and so far Headstart is alright (though still plagued with connectivity issues, over-rewarded founder chest bugs, etc).  From an economic standpoint, Archeum is certainly one of the lynch pins, but it's not the only one.  They really should have instituted a limit on how much property each account can own.  There are people with 12-20 properties, including various sized farms and houses already, before the f2p folks even get access.  Instead of blocking off Auroria to limit the advantage experienced players could get, they should have put limits on the land grab.
As for the "pay to win" aspects of the game ... I think people are naive to think any moderately to highly popular game with an economy isn't pay to win in this day and age.  Some games do things better than others, but even in PoE, which theoretically has zero p2w within the game, can be abused through 3rd party websites.

Thanks Ziggy!

Well ofc it is a bit p2w, they need money to pay the servers and staff. But its not even close to alot of other "f2p" games

Hey bro thanks for this Vid. Lots of guys will make a negative video but not a positive change. I been following the game since it launched over seas waiting for it to come to US. I think I might pick it up before release now! Has anyone seen that the archeum drop rate increase that has been playing?

I do understand that getting things from a cash shop can for an advantage is can negative. BUT it can also be positive for those without a lot of time to play, it they choose they can "pay" to keep up with players that have more time. Of course I understand it can boost those who play a lot and pay way ahead. It can keep other players in the game.

Lol, increased drop chance "significantly / Greatly" what the fuck do those mean lol, just feels like they are hiding something, they prolly increased it about 1% each lol

Thanks a lot for the info ziggy! I'm not a person who really browses forums much so its sometimes hard to get this sort of information. Glad there are people like you out there ^^

so ziggyD what exactly made you think that trion never had great F2P models? Both Rift and ArchAge have so far both turned out to be fantastic F2P models. i am just wondering because i have played rift for yrs now and still love it constant changes that you don't need to pay for at all is so very nice, Not like destiny that was just released for a heavy price of 60 and then on top of that in DLC you need to buy just to play the game to the fullest.

So wait, did they change natural labor regeneration back to it's previous level or is it still halved?
If it's still 2880 per day and then it's back to 8000 per day from potions, then the natural labor point generation is 26.5% of max labor per day or 73.5% from potions, 73.5% pay to win.

Archeum has been greatly increased. I have more than what I need and sell most of it.

Playing the game is fun for a while but, now I don't have labor points :( Can't do shit now I have over 500+ coin purses that are unopened. Looks like I got to be AFK most of the time when online. IMO its F2P for a while then its like they want u to use real money to get any further into the game.

can't pay archeage bc the hack shield b.s. game crashes

I tend to agree with some of your thoughts on the P2W aspect of this game. However, the way I see it is its more a pay to get a lead, or there for the lazy people. These people will put their hands in their pockets regardless of how they obtain ingame currency. With the majority of games being released these days they have an F2P model and due to this the devs have to somehow pull in money. If you don't have things that people can turn into in game currency they will take their money to some RMT site and we all know that this isn't any good for any game. While the model they have wont stop RMT sales it will definitely help reduce it IMO.

Mt personal opinion on this is that if people want to buy things for this game, its fine. I know I can make my game fully F2P by working at it a few hours and have enough gold to buy APEX. The APEX system itself is pretty much exactly like the PLEX system in Eve Online and that has stood the test of time. It makes my game free and gives me full access. Ok I have to work a bit harder, but then I feel I get more reward. To top it all off once people have the end game gear and skills, all your going to see is a river of tears from the credit card warriors getting roflstomped in the open sees by the rest. CANT WAIT! Tears taste gooood :P

is the game still pay to win? is it still a big problem?

Labor system, farm areas make you slave of cash , i'm play righ now, but thats is true, cash , u can buy on Action house APEX from another players to gain credits, but this credits are used to buy cash itens !

We can help each other out. I have tons of info on archeage and would love to help boost your gold in game and you can help me by watching and commenting on some of my videos!!! THANKS

tl;dr

I loved vanilla Ultima Online which is what this game emulates, but it's not worth it. Housing location meant something in UO since there wasn't an Auction House. With the way the internet is now... botting and exploits why play a grinding MMO? Multiboxing on modern computers and the free to play model making bans pointless. This could be stifled a bit if it was a boxed purchase game like Guild Wars 2 or Diablo. Then this pay2win free2play bandwagon wouldn't be so rampant.

Why don't they just make it pay to play.
Uninstalling...

People are now buying gold from MMOGA, fuck this I'm not playing.

hi

I would have liked them to have dropped the price of the auction house price for free to play players to 20 gold instead of 100 gold as it takes forever to get 100 gold my main is lvl 42 now and i have amassed 60 gold so far.
Also i would have liked to be able to use 1 8x8 scarecrow as every time  i want to plant something that i cannot plant on the free farms it gets stolen. or they could make the free farms for any plants/tree's/animals.
have fun all.
P.S. I was planning to be free to play till lvl 50, then but premium, as by then i would have tried the game and been ready to use farms, but as things stand now, im glad i never got to lvl 50, as most fo the farm spaces were got by players only wanting to sell them for gold rather than farming them, and now it is no use farming trees for a chance to get a thunder struck tree for a huge profit with the new cash shop trees that give a 20% chance of one.

You can sell apex and get in game currency for real money, mention this?

This video is both hilarious and a slap in the face to current AA players that aren't whales. 

I cant even play because the problem where you change the graphics and it doesnt save