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This is a good video.
ОтветитьBad wheel! Bad! Kennel!
ОтветитьHeck yeah dude I’m glad that you’ve basically eliminated wheel bite. Going forward it’s gonna be important for you to skate flat rocker. It’s actually significantly easier on your body. If I wear the exact same boots but I skate anti-/freestyle it kills my back.
I discovered this wheel profile phenomenon by accident... when I bought the box of face wheels they had a bullet profile. I would’ve skated any wheels at that point that I bought 288 for $70 but luckily they had that profile. I thought I was just getting better at grinding and skating flat but after a few years of skating those face wheels exclusively I think I bought a pair of skates complete because it was a good deal. Those skates came with normal flat profile wheels and I was eating crap because of wheel bite instantly. That’s when it really hit me. This was like 10 years ago and at the time everyone was oblivious to wheel profile.
Its harder to turn because they are new wheels, there isnt the slight rocker that will have worn in vs your old setup, rocker > wheel profile
ОтветитьBoot down brother you can't hit with your frames first. You can't be boning over. Won't matter the wheel shape or even durometer.
ОтветитьA shallow groove is always better than a deep groove too.
Ответить🙌🙌🙌
Ответитьmaybe you could use a same size square wheel on the outside and it might be easier to turn while the bullet wheels can be ur grind wheels
ОтветитьShout-out Crown Royal bags. My mom was a bartender, all my smaller toys were kept in Crown bags as a kid.
ОтветитьI'm running the Famus 60mm, round profile 88a on the green Lomax. Same thing you found, wheel bite basically disappeared with the profile change even though it's a sticker compound. To be fair on that last bail, rip your hip by the way, you landed right square on top of that curb. Anything short of a freestyle setup would have stuck in that situation I think.
ОтветитьNice! I know the round profile are better for turning, maybe bullet isn’t because of small contact patch?
ОтветитьYa ... I just put in anti rockers on Aeons. Life's too short to be worrying all the time about eating it on wheelbite.
ОтветитьOnly thing is those bullets wear down super fast and after a few rotations theyare flat profile.
ОтветитьBeen considering giving flat setup a go. Been rolling anti rocker, for 20 years, but after going for a solo session, yesterday, i couldn't get past the noise my skates were making. Also, 10 points, for repping the Blade Club hat!
ОтветитьSometimes I skate flat to improve my technique and when I switch back to anti or Oysi I get the same feeling as you in this video
ОтветитьI think you will get more maneuverability as your wheels break in. You'll eventually get that natural banana rocker. I'm definitely going to try this out on my Aeons. I'm a beginner at grinding and I know skating anti-rocker would make it easier to learn grinds but I hate that train track feeling especially since I am coming from a hockey background. I need to have a more hockey skate feel. But when you are not experienced at grinding like me, wheel bite is a huge problem. Thanks for the great video!
ОтветитьThe only set up I’ve used for years on my aeons, I hope they keep these wheels in production. This video will help I’m sure! Thanks and I fully support this.
ОтветитьI think you'll like the face profile better on 50/50, chroma, mushroom blading wheels 58mm turn alot nicer than bullet
ОтветитьGreat channel,
ОтветитьWhen i skate, i tend to worn my 1st and last wheels the most, so my flat profile always gets a bit rockered, hence it is easy to turn. Every time i put some new wheels it is a bit harder to turn, but in time it gets easy again. Maybe that is happening here, bullet wheels are still not rockered a bit.
ОтветитьYes dude, I knew you would like how they grind. Surprised about your thoughts on the turning though...I find them really "wiggly"...love how they ride.
ОтветитьI skated a bullet profile for one session for the same wheel bite concerns and fell over SO MANY TIMES just randomly, mostly while turning. I can’t even say it was down to the hardness rating as they are 88A, but I’d be skating along, make a slight direction change and just wipe out. My last straw was doing a back farv on a quarter, dropped in fakie and must have been a couple of degrees off the direction I was going (literally minimal). I wiped out so hard and so fast. Took them straight out and never had an issue since.
ОтветитьWheel bite is what screwed my wrist up. It's still bothers me almost a year later. I wear wrist guards now, but more to my point, wheel bite is the easiest way to hurt yourself on simple grinds/obstacles. I'm too old to be hacked forward unexpectedly and eat it, lol. I have a few set ups that I use, but all of then use a high-low frame and wheel combination(primarily Oysi and Kizer Slimline frames). I understand that's much harder to do on a non-ufs system( doable but with how much skates cost, I'm not comfortable cutting off frames to make a skate ufs compatible). Keep up the great work, Bro.
ОтветитьBrah that sound hurts so much like a kick to the balls o.O never seen so much wheelbites, seriosly! personally i roll on round profile wheels almost without wheelbite
ОтветитьI broke my elbow from wheel bite and will NEVER go back to flat. You yourself could have majorly injured yourself on one of those falls, esp the last one. You gotta weigh that additional risk when you go flat. The counter that “oh you should learn to lock on properly” is weak af, cause clearly even tricks you have on lock will be compromised, and forget trying to learn any new grinds/switch ups with flat.
Ответитьman was absolutely cheek'd up on that last fall
Ответитьi've just been skating aeons whitout the middle wheels and never got wheelbite lol
Ответитьi'm only interested in grinds and therefore i skate anti but i liked your video. I had some bullet profile wheels and i didn't like the way the skate wobble with those on landings...thanks for your videos👍
ОтветитьI've just realised I've messed up I thorght the loony zooms were 60mm so I now have 60mm revolver wheels on the front and back and 59mm loony zooms in the centre. Whoops
Ответитьgreat video; I'll try to get some bullet wheels on 2 and 3 and then we'll see, right? grts
ОтветитьThanks for doing this review. I’ve been very interested in these wheels and their maneuverability.
ОтветитьI’m glad they worked for you. So after we skated last week in Bandera swapped from the Danny beer wheels to the muzzle wheels which are more of a flat profile and did not have fun at all with them. Skated twice with the muzzle and so much wheel bite. Now I’m back on the Danny beers with the more rounded wheels and no issue. Dropping down that mm probably helped a lot too with wheel bite issues. On my Aeons went from 61mm stock wheels to 58mm Joey Chase Konjures and totally eliminated wheel bite.
ОтветитьAwesome to see the difference! I'm sure it sucked, but that last fall was gold lol. I've been looking into getting rounded wheels for mine but a lot of shops are sold out of what I want. You know what they say....it's hard out here for a pimp!
ОтветитьMan I hope that wasn't your bad hip. Really glad you got that sorted out, ledge game is back in business! Awesome how a profile change made that drastic of a difference. Great stuff Ben
ОтветитьMade the same/similar switch, they wear quick but rebought them 3x(Sic Urethane Broom2) . Helped me learn how to manage flat rocker in aeons. Than Switched to 60/92 UC round profile and wow, definitely helped me embrace the bite and use it to my advantage if that makes sense. I recommend the bullet profile for anyone trying to learn how to ride flat !
ОтветитьOne of my setups: medium oysi frame, 90a 59mm bullet profile on axle 2 and 3, 65mm flat profile 88a on 1 and 4. it‘s a fast turning, ledge king setup. It skates as close to „no bite“ as it gets. For street skating this is a dream. The minimal rocker turns fast and looks very stylish. I the bullets plus the Oysi bite protection won’t catch wheels even if the grind was not performed that well.
For people that get ledge wheel bite even On oysi frames, configured like I described before
: Try 58mm 95a (only from Dead wheels or antique from the 00s) on axle 2 and 3 and configure the outside wheelsize flat or for a light rocker with flat profile 92a… to get a antirocker oldschool grinds without much technique adjusting. This means: With this setup your inside wheels are somewhat allowed to touch. Just wax like you would need for a (unmodded) Aeon Soulgrind anyway. If a Aeon can soulgrind it fast, you waxed enough to allow touching with 95a wheels. Just get the curb/ledge „Aeon ready“. 😅 If changing the technique wasn’t paying off, always go for adjusting the gear to match your style.
Btw: 🙊 No offense - I own, use and love Aeons,
too.
Trust me, the only thing against the Oysi medium is the struggle the get them spacers into the frame. 😅 Everybody hates the initial setup - and everybody says „it paid off“ afterwards.
✌️ from Europe. I hope my english was kinda readable. 😇
Damn thats a huge difference
ОтветитьNice I remember skating Tom hyser face wheels w that more rounded profile and they were awesome for ledges / benches
When I switched to mindgame wheels I ended up going anti rocker , now I realize why there’s quite a difference from these wheel profiles
There are some UFS frames that are fantastic in preventing wheel bite on flat. I tried the Oysi regular and Axyzs frames. Oysi regular was an improvement over even my ani-rocker Blank frames and Axyzs was EVEN BETTER. With Axyzs, I’m constantly surprised with what I can get away with.
ОтветитьNew wheels every 3-4 weeks..
Ответитьonly true solution... Make wheels out of wax :)
ОтветитьI assumed you were gonna do a 50/50 setup....
ОтветитьIt's no wonder everyone rode anti so long considering how square the profile of aggressive wheels were until more recent years.
ОтветитьThe relationship of soul/boot width to frame height (or groove depth (distance down from soul to the groove)) is the biggest factor of wheel bite probably (this is why adapt frames and probably Fluid 5's, Thems, etc. get so little bite - they force you to boot over more)... Bullet profile wheels were not near as necessary until souls started getting crazy wide. I've been skating flat for 20+ years and only recently have started having some issues and having to narrow the souls down some, and/or deepen the boot groove, to keep wheel bite from happening. With the frames I've been riding (custom blocks in them I make, relatively shallow groove), on most boots wheel bite never ever happens even with a typical aggressive profile (like say Eulogy) 57mm wheel. But I have worn out 55s that are biting a lot right now because my new souls are a good 1/4" wider or more than anything previous.... This is also why some of the new frames are taller. Have to balance soul width with either/or/possibly all of the following - frame height, groove depth, frame wall thickness and how low the frame hangs below the axles. For flat to work right, you basically want to be on boot and frame wall only (like a cess slide on the ledge, with no wheels touching whatsoever once booted - and yeah, typically it works best to hop on grinds with the foot booted over before landing, you can't (if you don't want sticking) do royales that sorta start as frontside, for example, you hop on as if it's a cess slide).
ОтветитьGreat content brother ! Your finger on face when exiting a grind was hilarious! Overall I’ve fell back in love with Inline recently but your channel has helped me have confidence to get back into it! Keep up the great work
ОтветитьThe way I eliminated wheel bite, coming from anti rocker, I put two 95a wheels in the middle, I am shocked at how well it works as long as you wax properly
ОтветитьEnough! I'm buying!
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