VED on Electric Vehicles | Jeremy Hunt VED on EV's

VED on Electric Vehicles | Jeremy Hunt VED on EV's

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@shedworks3196
@shedworks3196 - 20.11.2022 14:13

It had to come, can't have the treasury giving money back.🏦

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@trevorphillips3055
@trevorphillips3055 - 20.11.2022 14:16

Do we really think the ICE new sales ban will happen in 2030? We won't have infrastructure good enough even by then to encourage new buyers to switch. I think it'll be extended as we get closer, this government are unlikely to win the next election so it could well change.

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@stever656
@stever656 - 20.11.2022 14:23

I think as the next few years go by they will increase VED on diesel and petrol cars good excuse and will increase the revenue

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@markahomer
@markahomer - 20.11.2022 14:26

The Great Reset indicates GPS mileage tracking will become the tax collector as ICE cars disappear. Restrict Movement Save the Planet.

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@h.google
@h.google - 20.11.2022 14:30

The motorist is easy fodder for the tax man, petrol and diesel vehicles are already hit with higher fuel prices and will be targeted for higher taxes in the near future too. Sorry it's doom and gloom, at least public transport is there for us.....LoL 😷

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@KingSadim
@KingSadim - 20.11.2022 14:35

In most cases people who buy electric or plug in hybrids are wealthier as they usually have a house with a drive. Therefore it did seem strange that they should pay less than the cleaner who can only afford an ICE. In my view, car tax should be a combination of what tax band you're in and how polluting your car is. It's wrong that a billionaire can pay less road tax than a cleaner who has no choice but to buy an older more polluting car.

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@philvxr78
@philvxr78 - 20.11.2022 14:50

I have a good solution to the EV nonpollution plan !!! buy a horse!! you can get a cart for when you go away. Only need oats and plenty of shlt for the garden or throw it at your local MP!! WINNER WINNER HORSE FOR YOUR DINNER ! cheers mate.

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@jumpferjoy1st
@jumpferjoy1st - 20.11.2022 14:58

There does need to be an incentive to move over to EV, but there should also be some form of road tax for EVs as they are actually more damaging for roads as they are heavier. But the real charges should be in the "fuel". At present they get preferential rates, especially at home with reduced VAT. If everything is done through fuel, we do not need expensive pay by mile systems. Those who use more efficient vehicles get the advantage and those that choose big and heavy pay more per mile. And if you spend extra on the latest highly efficient vehicle, you win in reduced fuel tax. It isn't rocket science.

There are additional problems with pay per mile, early government papers were talking about charging more during the rusk hour, but as government have removed school buses, families have to take their kids to school, during the rusk hour. So this just becomes a tax on parents.

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@timcollins7063
@timcollins7063 - 20.11.2022 15:03

Breaking news: Hunt won't be in his job by 2025. From recent experience I feel the Car Market is fixed & makes no sense. Would love to see an exposé on market fixing. Great work still Jim

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@FlintstoneR1
@FlintstoneR1 - 20.11.2022 15:08

The fairest way to tax road vehicles would be by kg of unladen weight. Would be easy to set this up as DVLA already have the kg figure for every car or van marketed. Just needs a re-jig of the VED bands to be based on kg, rather than tailpipe CO2. Would catch the “expensive vehicle tax” automatically. So a much simpler system. About time BEVs we’re taxed more fairly. When will they be required to pay the inner London Congestion Charge too?

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@Sleepywhispers79
@Sleepywhispers79 - 20.11.2022 15:19

I think road tax should be paid on every car

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@laurencemoore5737
@laurencemoore5737 - 20.11.2022 15:31

Personally I think the government should have applied VED from day one for EV’s. For example, low standard rate and additional rate due to value, perhaps raising the start point for EV’s to £50 or £60k.

There were various incentives in the early days and also lower BIK rates so there have been financial reasons to move to ev.

I don’t drive an ev. I know at some point I will and I expect my motoring costs to be on par with ice

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@worldofcars_ldn
@worldofcars_ldn - 20.11.2022 15:47

So Jim, buy a pre April 17 EV to continue getting the benefit of 0 VED or buy a new EV over £40k before April 25 to miss the luxury tax? It only applies to vehicles registered after then right?

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@samcartlidge8667
@samcartlidge8667 - 20.11.2022 15:59

Please don't refer to road tax. This hasn't existed for nearly 100 years. Motor/Ev's will pay VED on emissions. The emissions from Ev's tend to be tyre ware and thus carbon deposits

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@66cranes
@66cranes - 20.11.2022 16:09

I tend to agree with your comments, get us all in the EV car and then rinse us to the hilt. I am just about to get a new car having my old freelander for the 16 years. Now not sure which way to proceed, monthly leases will go up in 2025 to take into account the Additional road tax. Cars are far to expensive now anyway, tend to agree the weight of EV cars will wear the road surface a bit faster. It will be interesting to see how they are going to charge per mile, more false number plates on top of the thousands already being used. The chancellor has stated that fuel duty will rise next year, the £2 a gallon for petrol will soon be the norm next year. On another note what’s your take on the mobility car scheme, is it abused or is it fair.

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@66cranes
@66cranes - 20.11.2022 16:14

Apologies a typo should have stated £2.00 per litre from next year, always check in MPG, old school motorist

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@th723
@th723 - 20.11.2022 16:48

Why wait until 2025 makes no sense.

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@redjohn20001
@redjohn20001 - 20.11.2022 17:55

The government expect 50 percent of new cars sold by 2025 to be electric. I think that the decisions made may cause this not to be the case. I am older now and it might be time to find a great condition and reliable 2016 petrol car to give me my cheap motoring over the next decade or perhaps a sub £40k petrol car before 2030.

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@johndoyle4723
@johndoyle4723 - 20.11.2022 18:51

Thanks, not bothered about the VED change, I have had 10 years now of zero VED, it had to come.
You are right the premium charge is bad news, but not retrospective, and so many new EVs are over the £40k limit, or will be in 2025, expect some serious lobbying on this latter point, but I suspect it will fail to reverse the change.
We may have the anomaly that my other car a 1.0litre Fiesta petrol is VED exempt, could end up with some ICE cars being zero and all EVs taxable.
I drive an EV6 which is superb and worth it to me just for the way superior driving experience.

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@brianpalmer2015
@brianpalmer2015 - 20.11.2022 19:12

Another honest review. The government will get to eventually.

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@troyboy4345
@troyboy4345 - 20.11.2022 19:15

We just have to wait for the grid to catch up, which it is slowly, to enable total green, UK based energy production and home builders and PV/Solar ownership to get cheaper then the price of power for EVs will drop, until then, those that can afford an EV .... will continue to rise, as it still is, regardless of the tax point .... I am a happy EV user, Model Y and Mini, long may it continue, for a cleaner, more silent road network for our kids future, it's a mind set change, some can't do it, some can and want to.

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@maff257
@maff257 - 20.11.2022 19:19

I think they need to increase the luxury car tax start point in line with inflation. Car prices have increased significantly since 2019, yet the 'luxury' car tax start point remains at £40k. How many family cars, particularly SUV's are now breaching the £40k mark, particularly hybrids and PHEVs.

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@michaeledwards8079
@michaeledwards8079 - 20.11.2022 19:51

I'm just about to take delivery of my new ICE car, but it is bifuel, petrol and LPG, still £165 for VED but petrol is £1.68 per litre and LPG 70 pence, it's a no brainer as the refuel cost is the same as an EV that costs more than twice as much

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@tiguanman1170
@tiguanman1170 - 20.11.2022 20:21

VED for VE cars is entirely reasonable: less emissions but more road damage because they weigh the same as a loaded Transit van. I'm interested to see what my ICE VED is from April next year. It could go up by the rate of inflation(?) so that will cost a few extra £s. At the moment, EVs are primarily for the wealthy, there's obviously a plan to stop anyone driving any car in dense urban areas as time goes by but for those that need to, car prices need to drop below £200 per month PCP for the average family hatchback.

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@rogerevans425
@rogerevans425 - 20.11.2022 20:46

It is strange that my current Kia Ceed, which is regarded as polluting so not exempt from the London ULEZ will continue to be VED'd (?) at £30pa but the electric car I have on order will be VED'd at £165. This sits well with the green credentials that Richi Sunak tried to give when he attended the Climate Conference last week.

However I have no quarrel with BEVs being charged something.

I do have qualms about the "Luxury Car Tax" though. I have on order a Kia Niro EV 4 which, if the tax changes were introduced immediately would attractthe £355 supplement, but the PHEV version, which is just as luxurious, is £10k cheaper and wouldn't attrract the Tax, although would be a lot more polluting. However when the lease is up on that I can see myself getting a PHEV to save that £355, or, more likely a cheaper Chinese made BEV, which will obviously help with the UKs trade balance :)

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@ProbablyNotGoodEnough
@ProbablyNotGoodEnough - 20.11.2022 21:19

As I said before, I would rather wait to get an EV until I will not have any other choice. Nothing wrong taxing EV but I would rather avoid the ‘flat fee’ and pay for kw or horsepower, like we all already do with combustion engine cars. Make more sense to me. So someone with a Tesla plaid with 1k hp should be paying more than someone with a fiat 500e. But that’s just me!

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@edwardedwards5402
@edwardedwards5402 - 20.11.2022 22:08

VED is the right thing to do for EV's. It was always going to come it was just a matter of when .

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@royhogg9198
@royhogg9198 - 20.11.2022 23:29

I think that pay per mile is the best way forward as someone with a small car paying £20 a year tax and doing 30000 miles a year for work will do a lot more damage to the planet and wear and tare to the roads than someone with a larger car doing 1500 miles going to the shop and back,

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@Pete.Ty1
@Pete.Ty1 - 21.11.2022 01:04

👍👍👍

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@rodpeacock4078
@rodpeacock4078 - 21.11.2022 01:14

There is another point - Hunt is increasing tax on petrol and diesel, so making sure, electric will be cheaper to fill, than today, where EV’s are far more expensive.

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@RicoShae1983
@RicoShae1983 - 21.11.2022 06:36

This all feels like the “…buy a diesel car…” situation again. Go on. Tell me I’m wrong. I’ll wait…

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@freeserve1942
@freeserve1942 - 21.11.2022 12:06

They should as due to their vast increased weight they do more damage to roads.
As to the current VED system for vehicles I would say this:-

I have no problems with paying my Taxes but demand that they should be FAIR.
The current system is both 'unfair' and 'counter- productive' !
UNFAIR, as being based on the 'pollution class' of the vehicle, it should be based on the USE of that vehicle !
COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE, as a fixed fee is charged, there is no incentive to 'LIMIT THE USE' of high-polluting vehicles !
A fairer and more effective system would be as follows:-
All vehicle yearly mileages are recorded on the MOT data bases.
At MOT's, vehicles should be charged depending on their Class and mileage. The cost paid directly to the garage or when an invoice is sent by the DVLA ( this including additional cost for administration).
This would result in a fairer and more effective anti-pollution system.
Any vehicle without an MOT should be classed as 'un-ROADWORTHY' and impounded.
All measures such a SORNS would not be necessary to administer and all vehicles would pay their fair share of vehicle tax !

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@georgejoneseuout8101
@georgejoneseuout8101 - 21.11.2022 13:21

Not before time , why should one car be different from another, the gover needs to get money in, alcohol taxes down, cigarettes taxes down, car tax because of EV taxes down all big revenue avenues, no wonder we have no money.

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@davidgillham6847
@davidgillham6847 - 21.11.2022 13:32

Weight and the number of miles you drive is probably the best way to tax a vehicle I believe, but road tax should be lower in general all around. It's not fair that weekend sports cars which only get driven a few thousand miles per year are taxed more than daily drivers, which are probably heavier and do more damage to the roads overall. Like everything in this country, it's all a bit upside-down right now...

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@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh - 21.11.2022 16:59

The issue with imposing some sort of tax based on the weight of the EV Jim, is that you may find some people might own a heavier one, but cover a very low mileage each year. And some owners of small, much lighter EV's may cover 15k plus miles per year. That's where the pay per mile system wins.

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@KFORDYCE73
@KFORDYCE73 - 21.11.2022 17:03

Make sense what you’re saying. 👍

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@garden-Railway
@garden-Railway - 21.11.2022 17:09

How will this effect an ev lease, that moves in to tax during the 36-48 month lease, can the agreed lease price rise

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@Team-fabulous
@Team-fabulous - 21.11.2022 18:46

This was always going to happen....

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@Richard482
@Richard482 - 21.11.2022 19:46

A £40k EV is not a "luxury" car.

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@philf5043
@philf5043 - 21.11.2022 19:57

It's all part of the bigger plan to effectively take car ownership away from the working man . With creeping low emissions zones that are forcing 1000s to buy an EV or if you can afford it or if you cant charge it being forced to go without. How will the millions forced to get rid of their car get to work ? Plans by the rich to lower the working man's standard of living . We are sleepwalking into this scenario . It's started !

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@EarnshawUK
@EarnshawUK - 21.11.2022 21:57

I have not read any justification for the pollution levels remaining high as some people will still keep with an ICE vehicle for as long as they can. Why not leave the VED at a lower rate until ICE cars are "banned"?

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@linedancer111
@linedancer111 - 22.11.2022 17:03

I completely agree with you! We get screwed what ever

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@AEC139
@AEC139 - 22.11.2022 20:42

Road tax was abolished in 1937, vehicle tax in theory an emission tax will include electric vehicles, but sadly this taxation and fuel duty is not used for the roads as many think, car tax also was abloished in 1992 - if all vehicles were super efficient, goverment would find a tax. HGV was reduced for a while due to tri axle semi trailers and tandem axle trctor untits. I think vehicle tax could be fair to all, maybe van users should pay vat?

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@bobabout256
@bobabout256 - 23.11.2022 22:49

Unfortunately our country has a massive debt due to over borrowing to cover things like Furlough and incompetence. No one I know who was on furlough said what a bad idea how are the country going to pay for it. Any government is going to claw this back and more. Money isn’t free and the tax gap from fuel and excise, was alway going to be recovered at some point in time. Those who can afford Luxury priced EV are making hay while the sun is shining, excuse the pun. I’m not anti EV, far from it, but this is just the facts of life. You pay tax when you earn, pay when you spend and pay when you die. That’s how it is in a “developed” country. Those of you who have the means, Enjoy the low levels whilst you can.

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@adrianwalsh896
@adrianwalsh896 - 25.11.2022 17:47

Hello Jim, just to let you and your viewers know, that the EV road tax in the Republic of Ireland is approximately £100 per year. It has been like this for a period of time, and if you drive a diesel, and the road tax starts £150 approx. However, if you drive an older vehicle without stop start I do not ulez compliant, that becomes considerably more expensive very quickly.

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@AV-hx1bm
@AV-hx1bm - 30.11.2022 21:37

Don't trust government a single word!!!!

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@seanbotha3194
@seanbotha3194 - 25.03.2023 13:04

You've also made the error of saying VED goes to road maintenance. VED just goes into government coffers and will continue to do so. Nothing to do with the roads or maintenance thereof. Look at your council tax bill next time. That's where road maintenance is taken from. Road tax hasn't been around since 1936.What ICE vehicles pay is based on emissions. I had a 1.9 TDI and a 1.6 Petrol Vehicle. The diesel was £108 pa while the Petrol was £256. The diesel was far heavier on the road so more "damage" yet cheaper VED. Why? Emissions.

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@ianparker1456
@ianparker1456 - 12.06.2024 12:48

VED should be based on weight and power, how much you wear the road

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