Dry Sand or Wet Sponge? - Drywall Finishing Insights

Dry Sand or Wet Sponge? - Drywall Finishing Insights

Herrick Kimball

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@phillyfathead
@phillyfathead - 05.01.2024 17:55

Great info especially for us that are weekend DIY’s

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@k.d.8924
@k.d.8924 - 05.01.2024 19:06

I agree with your assessment, I have tried wet sponging, and it has its place, but I have never been able to get results that could compare to dry sanding. I used to use the sanding screen, but have gone more to the paper, because even a 220 screen will leave tracks in the finish, not really an issue with texture, but problematic for a smooth finish.

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@hilbert551
@hilbert551 - 05.01.2024 19:10

Most of the drywall jobs I did had mud texture spray shot on the walls, like a monterrey knock down finish. Thus the joint taping was not extremely critical. However on a wall with a smooth finish, with no texture sprayed on with your hopper, it is very critical to have near perfect joints. Thanks for another good tip.

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@mikeizzano172
@mikeizzano172 - 05.01.2024 20:00

Nice job , my life long friend is a house builder ,he’s slowing down some now ,but when he was busy he had a slew of hangers and tapers …I knew 2 that very seldom needed sanding for paint prep ,( I painted on my winter layoff ). I was always amazed at their ability and speed .it was always a joy to watch them work ,and stilts like it an extension of their legs and all the tricks they had to work a room non stop .all the trades have their methods that make them the best in what they do . Thanks for the video…..

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@kenwilding5931
@kenwilding5931 - 05.01.2024 21:17

When I first started out back in the 70’s we used electric sanders. It actually does a good job but the dust it creates is unbelievable. I have wet sanded when the job is small or dust is unacceptable but maintaining the exact moisture level in the sponge or cloth to get a good job is very difficult and I agree that the finish is generally not as good as sanding. Thanks for all the good advice you give from your experience. Nothing is more valuable that experience.

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@N.R.S.412
@N.R.S.412 - 05.01.2024 22:36

Agreed 100% with everything you said here. By hand is the only way to get a primo job. I use the regular pole sander for ceilings and foam sander on the edges. The pad sander also works good on edges. Try the gator sandpaper and foam sander from lowes I've been happy with it.

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@rickleffel256
@rickleffel256 - 06.01.2024 02:28

thanks for the info it is always valuable

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@carlmclelland7624
@carlmclelland7624 - 06.01.2024 03:00

"It's not that critical." Yes, that'll pass for a lot of people in the trades, but I'm like you, Herrick. The job isn't finished until I'm satisfied with my work. I learned another old saying in the Army... Lord, I'm almost out of fingers to count the decades back, but I've never forgotten it. "There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over." (Enter stage left... Mike Holmes).... "If you're gonna do it, do it right... the first time." WHY, why are people who consider themselves "Craftsmen," satisfied with a half-assed job? Thanks for another great one................

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@cheetoman23
@cheetoman23 - 06.01.2024 06:02

Here's the radical (and USG approved!) method to ensuring butt seams are never an issue:
1. Cut enough 48"x12" pieces of 1/2" OSB or similar to be a backer to ALL your butt joints.
2. Hang your drywall so that all butt joints land exactly IN BETWEEN STUDS.
3. On your backer board, put cardboard shims or precut 1/8+" thick wood on the furthest edges of the left and right sides of backer board, so that the butts of each drywall piece have a shim, roughly 6" from its edge.
4. Screw the drywall to the backer board nearest the middle.

If this is done properly, the butt joints will actually bend inwards, creating a taper that can be perfectly flattened by mud, no more humps. Additionally, this joint is less likely to crack than even a butt joint on a stud, and it's much easier to get the screws in straight.

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@elizabethjohnson475
@elizabethjohnson475 - 06.01.2024 08:00

I love sanding screen, when cleaning a tough mineral ring inside a toilet, or maybe on the outside of a stainless steel skillet, when the grease is cooked on. It must, however, be used carefully, the etch is so permanent. A sanding screen has saved the day many times as I cleaned homes. Regards, Herrick, from far north California

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@harrytinker2328
@harrytinker2328 - 06.01.2024 16:46

I totally agree that dry sanding gives the flattest results. The joint compound manufacturers suggest wet sanding for legal reasons on account of the respiratory hazards of dust. I don't sand between coats, but just use my 4 inch taping knife to knock off any friable ridges. I like the sanding screen like you use. I have a vacuum sander handle that I use for some jobs in finished homes. It works great at catching maybe 95% of the dust. The key element in that setup is a "dust deputy" cyclonic trap between the sander and the shop vac. Otherwise the filter will clog too quickly. Anyhow, I have been doing drywall repairs a long time and with good results but still have not achieved the mythical-level skill that eliminates sanding.

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@BlueEffigy
@BlueEffigy - 07.01.2024 02:16

If you know how to float then no sanding is needed, taping knife for scraping and a damp rag is all you need.

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@5678blob
@5678blob - 07.01.2024 09:32

I’ve always been both. Learned drywall in the early seventies and got very good at it. Always sanded with 150 on a pad before switching to a screen after they came out but then always finished with a wet sponge. It cleaned everything up nicely and often would expose areas that needed a bit of touching up before painting.

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@billmarino4360
@billmarino4360 - 10.01.2024 05:47

I enjoy watching your videos, very informative. Can you tell me what’s the 10” Hyde knife part number that you use as a hawk? I’m an electrician and I often do small patches using fast setting joint compound. That’s a very handy tool and I’d like to get one.
Thanks Bill

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@Trashpanda_404
@Trashpanda_404 - 19.02.2024 00:08

You said you don’t know if you can find “x” a couple of times, but a quick search each one is readily available. Purchased the hand sander from Hyde Tools. (Hyde Tools 09165) It’s the same sander you like. You connect it to a shop vac and you’re able to adjust air flow. It works AMAZING! Set at the most powerful flow, put it against a FLAT wall and it holds itself. Little to no dust. Found outside corners you may get a little, but just sand inward instead of out.

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@billimbriani316
@billimbriani316 - 09.03.2024 10:21

Festool festool festool the only way to go no dust best tool in the world if you can afford it

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@deantoth7802
@deantoth7802 - 18.03.2024 02:07

You sold me dry sand for a better product. Thank you

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@billysmether6237
@billysmether6237 - 27.03.2024 17:24

Round disk sander.

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@greenchie2
@greenchie2 - 30.03.2024 16:39

I've never wet sanded and had it come out quite as good.

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@wdblogic
@wdblogic - 04.04.2024 10:20

As you stated in the beginning, I humbly confess that I have to do very little sanding and only use the 3m (dry) sponge. It’s all in the way that I use the 6”, 10” and 12” blades and I don’t sand in between coats. Coat 1 is heavy and for major imperfections. Coat number two I’m already beginning to smooth with my blade. Final coat I’m feathering. Then I do the fine-tuning with the sanding sponge dry.

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@Yellowjacket1977
@Yellowjacket1977 - 18.05.2024 12:46

Honestly, wet sanding/finishing seems to take a lot more work and elbow grease! I'm not a professional, but have hung and finished some drywall. Old fashioned hand-sanding is still the best! Of course, an old pro once told me, "If you apply your first coat of mud correctly, you won't have as much sanding to do".

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@lindaelam5549
@lindaelam5549 - 10.06.2024 00:38

Wow, this is timely advice for me. This coming week I will be repairing multiple (foundation-caused) drywall cracks in a small bathroom. Sanding dust will be such an issue that I would have been tempted to try the damp sponge trick had I not seen this video. Thanks.

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@ScienceFaithReasoning
@ScienceFaithReasoning - 20.06.2024 15:15

I just finished a 320 sq feet master suite (by far the most I’ve ever done), and I tried to use a sponge sander first, and it looked far inferior to the dry sanding with a fine sanding sponge. So, now I just use two sanding sponges, one medium grit, one fine, and the finished product looked nearly flawless. Great video!

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@Richardj-vf2if
@Richardj-vf2if - 17.07.2024 18:56

you need to do it when the mud is still semi wet, before it changes color but after most of the moisture is gone, use a sponge the natural kind.

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@LazioEditors
@LazioEditors - 01.08.2024 19:07

In Italy we use the wet sponge finish a lot, mostly for me comes from working in older historic buildings that are still lath and plaster (and its not allowed to tear that down). Thats often on ceilings which will show every minimal imperfection.
While on plaster it works extremely well, on drywall its a lot harder, simply doesnt behave in the same way

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@togodbetheglory6433
@togodbetheglory6433 - 23.09.2024 09:53

Thank you for sharing this

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@PremierCoupOutdoors
@PremierCoupOutdoors - 08.10.2024 20:55

Thanks! 😊 I'm going to get the 3M items you use and try them.

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@abak7543
@abak7543 - 31.10.2024 21:48

U Can Not B Any More right… SIR

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@brianhenson6141
@brianhenson6141 - 04.11.2024 16:57

At my age give me the pole sander any day as i don't like doing ceilings by hand anymore!

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@briancussen437
@briancussen437 - 13.11.2024 13:00

Wet sanding it is then. Thanks for the advice

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