The Tolkien Geek Reviews “The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim”

The Tolkien Geek Reviews “The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim”

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@sststr
@sststr - 15.12.2024 02:04

I have no idea what you mean "the D word"? ''Dwarf' in the context of LOTR can't be considered a slur. Sop what, the nickname for Richard?

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@NickBR57
@NickBR57 - 15.12.2024 02:19

Youre more forgiving than I am.
Making nothing of Frealaf, who actually kilked Wulf so should be a major event; putting in the Eagles who never apoear in the source unless I am misremembering; making so much of Hera who was a nameless one-liner; having Heln run from the gates of the Deep and then frozen to desth (which at least is right)... and many more.
Thanls gor watching for me 🙂

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@johncipolla8335
@johncipolla8335 - 15.12.2024 02:43

I just cannot see myself going to see this moive

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@urizen7613
@urizen7613 - 15.12.2024 03:03

WTF is the D word?

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@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK - 15.12.2024 03:08

Releasing a movie this long this late in the year is bothersome.

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@matthabir4837
@matthabir4837 - 15.12.2024 03:18

Did the mahouts in Middle Earth carry an ankus? I can't remember from PJ's movies, but that would have been an interesting detail...

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@Lexi-Eve161
@Lexi-Eve161 - 15.12.2024 03:32

Solid analysis.
I enjoyed the movie despite the deviations, and despite the weird shit.

I give it a 7.5 out of 10 myself. I'd watch it again for sure.

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@persallnas5408
@persallnas5408 - 15.12.2024 03:34

What is the "d" word?

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@RaceAce_69
@RaceAce_69 - 15.12.2024 04:02

Been waiting for your review! 😁

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@neildaly2635
@neildaly2635 - 15.12.2024 04:55

Thankful for your review since I doubt I will watch it. I want to remember the Eorlingas, not the Bossgirlingas.

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@bobsbigboy_
@bobsbigboy_ - 15.12.2024 05:09

What is the D word?

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@Peak_Aussieman
@Peak_Aussieman - 15.12.2024 05:12

This show sucked. Even if it weren't insufferably woke, it'd still be terrible. Boo! Booo! Ooooo!

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@PleaseNThankYou
@PleaseNThankYou - 15.12.2024 05:14

I have disdain for a script that focuses on a character of little value, for the sake of Feminism.

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@dmdebruijn
@dmdebruijn - 15.12.2024 05:30

Megovanen!

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@balrog262
@balrog262 - 15.12.2024 06:34

Honestly, if Hera and Frelaf got married at the end and Hera and him fell in love, it would be perfect. I'd view that as the canon ending with Hera being a proto-Eowyn. I think they didn't do it since they were first cousins.
It isn't PC but I say do it anyway. Royals ALWAYS marry their cousins.

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@nicholasmorre7371
@nicholasmorre7371 - 15.12.2024 07:12

Glad this is flopping :) stop bastardizing Tolkien

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@havtheroc
@havtheroc - 15.12.2024 07:27

I don't really give a rat's behind about the story because there functionally isn't one. It's a something from nothing story, like many unfaithful adaptations. The part I take issue with is a moral one. According to the internet sleuths, a great number of very overworked animation sweatshops put this film together at an inhuman crunch.

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@Gottzchalk
@Gottzchalk - 15.12.2024 08:35

Héra has no character, she’s a fake and a representation, device. This is not a anime, because anime doesn’t lower male masculinity to raise female characters

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@jessmith7324
@jessmith7324 - 15.12.2024 08:57

I didnt see hera as a girl boss. She gets her ass handed to her a couple of times and even was about to consent to marry him. And that her attitude torwards marriage and rulers was stated from the beginning. The line about no stories about hera in the beginning was the move acknowledging the written lore, not taking a swipe at tolkien. If anything I wanted to see why shes later ommitted from the history

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@akanomamushi15
@akanomamushi15 - 15.12.2024 09:02

Haleth falling in Edoras is accurate, Hama reached Hornburg with Helm and was even joining parties gathering provisions for the impending siege but in one of those foraging excursions, his party went missing, including him.

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@gandalfolorin-kl3pj
@gandalfolorin-kl3pj - 15.12.2024 09:19

Mellon Geek: Well, I wasn't inclined to watch this movie. But after watching your review, I'll give it a chance--although, on my income, I'll have to wait till it's online. Excellent, as always, dear Loremaster. Namarie.

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@zacharyclark3693
@zacharyclark3693 - 15.12.2024 09:19

I’ve heard from multiple channels (that for context, were critical of the Rings of Power) that WOTRH wasn’t bad, and not nearly as woke or virtue signaling as they feared it might be. I’ll have to see it to make my own opinion.

Unlike the live action shows that try to be in the same universe, with animation (and this being a fairly disconnected story) I can always think of this as it’s own thing and it shouldn’t affect any other story going forward. Kinda like how I can acknowledge and still enjoy the Rankin Bass movies (although I think their Hobbit movie was 10 times better than the Peter Jackson version).

It’s too bad studios have lost the trust of so many fans, that (with good reason) we approach new films with trepidation rather than excitement. Not just with LOTR, but with other franchises as well.

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@Spartan1312
@Spartan1312 - 15.12.2024 09:54

I will never watch another Girl boss movie the rest of my life, Hollywood has burned that bridge. TY for your review.

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@stigkenobi7525
@stigkenobi7525 - 15.12.2024 11:03

No actual Tolkien fan would ever support this travesty.

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@ruddyrutherford
@ruddyrutherford - 15.12.2024 12:10

I think this is a fair review.
I like anime so I enjoyed it more.

I've no problem with Hera being the story focus. As a blank canvas, she's a writers dream.

This is the story of Helm through the eyes of his daughter.
I'd prefer a different name for her however., Hera is not Anglo Saxon enough.

Yes, some unnecessary additions such as the Eagles and the Watcher in the Water.

Tolkien wrote a 2 page summery with very little detail or characterisation. The film, on a whole, fleshed it out into a good movie narrative.

I think your criticisms are valid although I disagree with some.

Those not watching it simply because of Hera are missing out sadly

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@rhystrotman7812
@rhystrotman7812 - 15.12.2024 12:31

How on earth could Helm be the protagonist if he dies before the climax?!?
WoTR has as many plot deviations as Jackson's Two Towers?!? Are you mad! Elves at Helms Deep, Theoden choosing to evacuate Edoras and hide in Helms Deep, the warg attack and Aragorn being separated, Eomer's entirely different plot, the entmoot choosing not to go to war, the character assassination of Faramir, no Shelob... The list goes on.
The only "D-word" your viewers need to watch out for is you. Pull your head in

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@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ - 15.12.2024 13:05

I think that armor of Helm and his sons in the movie is pretty similar (especially considering stylistic differences) to the armor Theoden is wearing in PJ movies (there is a close look of that armor when Theoden is being armored during the battle of Helm's Deep). I am not sure what type of armor this armor supposed to be, but probably so-called "cuir bouilli" - early plate armor made out of hardened leather, or maybe segmented armor akin to Roman lorica segmentata, but covered in leather.

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@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ
@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ - 15.12.2024 13:19

The Eagles saved young Huor and Hurin in the Silmarillion once, so I do not think that they completely ignore regular humans. Also, in the Hobbit they say that they steal sheep from humans, so if some human wants to give them meat, they probably will accept it. I'd actually prefer if the the Eagles would play a bigger role in the movie, I pretty liked them.

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@seanmiller5460
@seanmiller5460 - 15.12.2024 15:55

I actually liked it. Couple issues with the animation style and questionable cameos... NOT ENOUGH HELM HAMMERHAND!!! But certainly one I look forward to seeing again.

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@sunsin1592
@sunsin1592 - 15.12.2024 16:36

Saw the extended preview when watching another movie at the theater a couple weeks back. It convinced me that my original decision to pass was absolutely correct. Two things I dislike mashed together: girl bosses and Japanimation. Sprinkle in the desecration of Tolkien and it's easy to skip.

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@illinoisan
@illinoisan - 15.12.2024 16:39

To me the most important thing about Tolkien is language. Tolkien uses archaic language to great effect and I think the LOTR movies do a great job mimicking that style. My problem with WOTR is that they recycled so much of the LOTR dialogue (“eye is fixed” is one example). It was like wearing a straight jacket. There are plenty of creative ways to use archaic language but we were denied that by the constant “callback” to LOTR movie dialogue.

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@Benevolent_Fafnir
@Benevolent_Fafnir - 15.12.2024 18:15

Okay so what is “the D word”???

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@Mythologos
@Mythologos - 15.12.2024 18:16

Rankin Bass is anime.

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@TyTyman8
@TyTyman8 - 15.12.2024 18:29

Whole movie was “Girl Power” was a let down some cool Helm stuff

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@dee-taylor
@dee-taylor - 15.12.2024 19:06

But girlboss, man. Patriarchy and such.

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@AnnaBenIsrael
@AnnaBenIsrael - 15.12.2024 19:51

The eagles are looking for a ringbearer to carry to Mordor and finish the thing early but all they got was a stake...

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@johannesponzio178
@johannesponzio178 - 15.12.2024 20:03

Thanks for your review! Liked and subbed.
Personally I was dreadfully disappointed! 😢
5/10, which for a lotr movie is unacceptable in my book.

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@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit - 15.12.2024 21:27

The film had a pretty clever answer regarding the rumours that Helm ate manflesh 🧟‍♂️

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@Benevolent_Fafnir
@Benevolent_Fafnir - 15.12.2024 21:56

I really don’t understand the whole thing with the Eagles… I mean, it makes sense why Gondor would revere them (being Dúnedain and all), but Tolkien clearly states that the Northmen fear the eagles.

This takes place only about 200 years after the founding of Rohan as a kingdom so there should still be fear and mistrust there imo.

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@rustyblade9366
@rustyblade9366 - 15.12.2024 22:30

I'm sorry but what the fuck is the D word in this context? Dick? I can't remember anyone saying the word dick in this movie, someone help me out here

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@monkeymox2544
@monkeymox2544 - 15.12.2024 22:31

I quite enjoyed it. It made quite a few deviations from the source material, but that didn't bother me too much, I have no objection to these things going their own way. Hera is obviously an invention of the writers, but that didn't make me annoyed, because I'm not a tinfoil hat neckbeard who thinks that Marxistfeministwokenazis are trying to take over the world by putting women in films.

6/10, not in a hurry ro rewatch, better than ROP, some good moments.

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@classyname42
@classyname42 - 15.12.2024 22:51

it is absolutely wild that you think you're not getting the story of Helm Hammerhand. That is such a bad faith interpretation of this movie. and to be so smug about it as well...

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@obadiah_v
@obadiah_v - 15.12.2024 23:49

I enjoyed the movie. Telling the story of Helm from the perspective of the unnamed daughter is not a bad idea. I thought it worked well enough.

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@visotoo3129
@visotoo3129 - 16.12.2024 00:53

From what I understand, New Line had to release something within 10 years of the last Hobbit film (12-17-14) in order to retain the LOTR film rights

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@andeeleininger5968
@andeeleininger5968 - 16.12.2024 02:15

This movie sounds like a s**t show. Glad I didn’t make plans to watch it.

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@CallinicusHu
@CallinicusHu - 16.12.2024 02:29

I watched it in Hungarian twice but I cannot recall anyone swearing or referencing a dingo. Who and where? Maybe the dub was censored.

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@bobbibaker5877
@bobbibaker5877 - 16.12.2024 04:10

Thank you for the honest review. I watched it and enjoyed it. The points you made about some of your dislikes - I get it. Thanks again!

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@YouTubeShillApologist
@YouTubeShillApologist - 16.12.2024 04:28

Box office flop and B cinemascore

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@_-.Everlast.-_
@_-.Everlast.-_ - 16.12.2024 11:14

It's not anime lol, it's a cartoon.

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