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What HASAN forgets is that all the top actresses in hollywood who felt weinstein had been dangerous never felt like they could come forward...and that is what the point is. Even when Taylor swift was on top after 1989 she was susceptible to just being toppled.
ОтветитьTo be completely honest, the reason I really don't have an opinion beyond the broad generalization of "sexism is bad" and "don't scab during a strike" is that is Hollywood with two talented actors. When you have two parties that are both willing and able to lie to a point where it is indistinguishable from reality there then there ceases to be truth, only narrative. There is no place in place in the workplace for sexual harassment. I don't think people are going to like me saying this, but when people are saying that there is a clear situation because of new information, 3 weeks ago people were saying the exact same thing. What is stopping another bombshell from dropping? I'm not trying to unempathetic to anyone's story, but I live in Lincoln, Nebraska. I don't know anyone personally, and my opinion is literally just noise here.
ОтветитьI thought the marketing plan pivoting away from DV (concealing the DV themes) is a decent idea if you want to bring the audience through the journey of the protagonist, who doesn't remember any DV incidences (including receiving a major concussion after a fall down the stairs) until a more methodical and intentional form of intimate partner violence (revenge/dominance grape) unlocked the memories.
The protagonist kept staying in the abusive relationship because she was dissassociating during the violent incidents, which happens to a lot of people in traumatic circumstances.
I watched the movie because the title indicated generational trauma or something, but it was presented more as a romance/girlypop, and I was curious to resolve the tension between these presented potential themes. So while they show subtle moments that are red flags for abusive relationships (emotional abuse), they avoid showing any physical violence until the protagonist realizes and remembers the history of the relationship. It made the reveal more powerful.
This makes me think that the girly pop promotion of the film was a specific strategy that everyone was on the same page about, initially.
Harassment steems from having power and influence from other person. Blake and her husband, even her family, have MORE power, money and net worth and scope of INFLUENCE among them over what his name co-star/director. She was the producers who brought the money.
He also has fame about his integrity in the industry.
Now Blake comes with PR campaign in form of legal dressing for people forget what she has done...she still wants the rights for the second film/sequel he ownes.
Just thinking...
Funny in the interview the Norwagian reporter congratulated her for the baby she understood she was being called fat and was disgusting to the reporter...that's the way she is.
She didn't want to talk about DV, but about flowers, her products to sell: hair line and her alchool drinks.
The chart of the film with just her face and name...
The message that Lively was trying to promote wasn't even that bad or as outrageous as people are making it seem.
The book was VERY popular, it made so much money way before the movie was even a thing. Claims had already been made about the author romanticizing abuse and all that. I'm not a fan of these types of stories, however, I'll give some credit to the message that Colleen Hoover and Blake Lively were trying to push this time: this story is about Lily. It is about her resilience, it's about her ability to love, it's about her feminine power to make beautiful things grow and transmute the bad things into good things.
Everybody is obsessed with making the central focus of the film to be the abuse, to be the violence, to be the abuser. YES, there's violence and a very disturbing and realistic plot about domestic abuse, but THAT'S not the point of the story. I just can't believe that people twisted a very beautiful message of growth and resilience (Blake's) and made it look like it was some bimbo air-headed idea.
The dichotomy between this main conflict is clear between the poster that Lively wanted for the movie and the poster that Baldoni was pushing for (look for it): Blake's is beautiful and filled with hope, it's very feminine, there are flowers, she's smiling, and it simply represents Lily's ability to grow and create beauty. Then you have Baldoni's poster, he's in it, Lily is also in it, she seems upset, the mood is dark and ominous, and it 100% showcases a defeated Lily, dominated by this violence.
Personally, I think Lively's message makes more sense (especially if we take into consideration the book and the original hype that there was around it for a couple of years).
Everybody (women and men) single-handedly decided that the message of a woman, a message that at its core was all about softness and the essence of true femininity, was pathetic, weak and dumb. Everybody wanted it so much to be about the violence. "It's a movie about domestic violence", "It's a movie about domestic violence", "iT's A mOvIe AbOUt dOmEsTiC vIoLeNcE"... Oh my god. The way I see it, both the book and the movie deal with elements of domestic violence, however, that doesn't mean that THAT'S what the story is about.
Anyways, in conclusion, both perspectives about the direction of the movie would have been absolutely valid (Lively's makes more sense to me if we also take into consideration the opinion of the author, that should be respected considering that she's basically the one that created it all). However, what upsets me the most is that absolutely everyone keeps invalidating and going over the original message that Lively's team were trying to deliver. They reduced it into a "dumb bimbo air-headed message". If you actually think about it, the main thing that's being invalidated is femininity and its power for growth, beauty and transformation. Nobody seems to believe that that's something interesting that matters that has a high level of importance in our daily lives.
“Thanks for asking!” Lolol baldoni’s female PR team (Abel, Nathan) are the ultimate dirtbags in this scenario. Good for Stephanie for doxxing the texts of her loser underling. Bravo Stephanie
ОтветитьLet's be clear here, Blake Lively is a victim, no matter how much weird shit she has done in the past or in recent times, none of that somehow excuses the severe sexual harassment she has potentially gone through. The point that Hasan is making isn't that she should be doubted because she's not a great person or that this somehow makes the harassment deserved or less bad, it's that her not being a perfect victim is exactly what that soulless freak Baldoni weaponized using that targeted harassment campaign, that twitter and reddit were especially easy to influence, and that feminism and culture wars have been consistently used throughout all of this as a facade to say "I can't be a bad person, I'm a feminist. Now this person on the other hand...". Online discourse has become a tool for hollywood to manipulate and firms like the one Baldoni hired are only gonna gain more influence from here onwards and we imperatively have to get infinitely more attentive if we don't wanna fall even more of that type of traps.
Blake Lively's worst crimes in all of this are incomparable to Bladoni's behaviour. All she did was be the average ultra-wealthy pop-feminist white woman at the top of hollywood, and much more importantly, have horrible taste in books.
Sorry i dont believe blake at all and she is trying to ruin him for some personal reason.
ОтветитьGonna be honest, i dont really care what happens to blake.
ОтветитьThis is sad i love her as Serena on gossipgirl
ОтветитьWow! You really have your finger on the pulse with this half year old story.
ОтветитьAmazing how she has all this energy to defend herself from having to listen to a guy talk about his sex life but has no energy to represent the millions of women who have 99.9% less power than she does and actually bring attention and awareness to the horrendous and limitless violence committed against women every day. Like I’m sure she went through some shit. I’d feel a lot more sympathetic had she used her insanely enormously platform for to actually care about other women going through some shit.
ОтветитьAs someone who has had the misfortune to read Colleen Hoover books, the original book was not about DV. It exists, in the book as a narrative device to allow the female protagonist to walk away from a relationship. Its a romance and in romance novels women are never allowed to change their mind about relationships without unassailable reasons, in this case DV. The novel does not explore it in any depth. There was no reason to assume the film ever would.
ОтветитьWhy we have to believe her this time? She can be faking this hole sh*t up again to save her career. Both are awful people.
Ответитьeveryone rn: sexual assault harassment is NEVER okay.. unless it’s a privileged, rich, nepo baby white woman.
no. it’s never okay. stand up y’all it’s embarrassing me
Blake is a bully, but that doesn't mean Justin is innocent
ОтветитьCan someone explain why floral designs undermine domestic violence? Like do abuse victims not wear floral print?
ОтветитьThe way she treated that European interviewer throughout the entire interview was pretty revealing of her weirdness.
ОтветитьHasan mentioning how maleable people are on Reddit but he fell for the exact same PR team's tactics when they got hired by Johnny Depp just like most of the internet
Ответитьshe has documented the shit out of all of her issues on the set. It IS a labor situation. She is someone without a lot of filters sometimes who can be a little rude and her hocking her hair products and her booze along with the movie made me take her less seriously but it seems to me that she has a solid claim against Baldoni. There are no perfect victims. She doesn't have to be perfect. She has the right not to work in a hostile workplace environment.
ОтветитьRecency bias + her PR vs his PR is why the same people that were on her ass for things such as promoting a moving about DV in the light of a universal blockbuster rom com, and then on top of that taking a page out of her husbands sleazy sales tactics to promote some hair product are the same people that are now upset
ОтветитьI love when a vlog preview starts with hasan saying “uughhhnnkay”
Ответитьgod this is frustrating to watch. while he delivers the main point which is that sexual harassment is unacceptable, he keeps getting bogged down like he needs to mention "and ALSO just so you know, i think blake lively is bad and out of touch" every 2 minutes.
just stop. the conversation should revolve around sexual harassment in the workplace, especially where its rampant in hollywood. as well as how abusers and harassers are able to use social media to their advantage these days. like a reverse me too, where victims were able to come together over social media and relate to each other, now abusers are aware of their tactics and are becoming social media savvy.
That's all you have to cover with this story!!!!! Its not that hard!!!! Zoom out! Dont fall into traps!
What’s driving me crazy is that people are bringing up the Depp VS Heard case and now taking Ambers side. Not to long ago people hated her. I don’t like either of them I think they both did some fucked up shit but did we all just forget the trial and how more than half the stuff she said was proven to be fake, like her bruises? How she didn’t donate any money to the charity? The shit she said on tape and how she cut someone’s finger off? I just don’t understand people’s 180 on this.
ОтветитьWhen bad things happen to bad people…💁🏽♀️
ОтветитьAn intimacy coordinator is like a choreographer for sex scenes. At first it sounds silly but I'm sure it helps actors feel safer and more comfortable knowing exactly what's going to happen in one of these scenes rather than just winging it.
ОтветитьHow is this movie still out
ОтветитьAll celebrities are narcissistic monsters (including Hasan). Idk how many times that message needs to be hammered home. It does show most people are fit for little else besides subjugation. There are no good celebrities. They are all monsters. The skills required for success are the skills we classify as disordered behavior
ОтветитьJesus! WTF is wrong with people!? What does Blake Lively's "out of touchness" have to do with Justin's harassment of her!? Harassment is wrong, didn't ya know!? 👀👀👀
ОтветитьYou are wrong on Blake Lively here, Hasan
ОтветитьYou can see clip after clip of her being inappropriate w her own costars. Be fr!
ОтветитьJustin used SA survivors to hide the fact that he is the Assaulter.
The fact that she didn’t want so much nudity in that movie and was coerced into it and people still bring up her wanting to make her “own cut”. Like removing her nudity and the scenes she was coerced into.
I thought it was Sony not Justin that wanted the pr to be really off brand
ОтветитьWhen are we going to acknowldge that movie actors engage in prostetution and their so called harrasment accusations do injustice to real victims in the real world. Another "Me Too" nonsense. Both are bad as each other.
ОтветитьThis movie seems like the most average cop wife story from what I can tell.
ОтветитьBlake Lively can be bad at marketing and be a victim at the same time. She can have gotten married on a plantation and still be a victim. She can be snarky and mean and still be a victim. This doesn’t mean she deserved what happened and it doesn’t mean we should sweep it under the rug. It’s ok if you don’t like Blake Lively but it’s not ok if you don’t stand up against what happened to her. But I will say, because so much of the smear campaign worked, the kind thing to do would be to show her support now during the lawsuit when she needs it the most and acknowledged that what happened was fucked up
ОтветитьNow i know why the guy gave me the ick 🤢
ОтветитьIt's an irony inception of a basic concept of not being abused in the workplace.
Hollywood is a toxic workplace and now you are in it. Silly.
"Facile" is not a crime. Nor is it a defence of workplace abuse..
Workplace abuse is a crime.
I wish I were surprised.
Imagine an actress not knowing how she will tackle her abuse on set yet, so then choosing facile gossamer commentary in interviews to "make time" until she does know.
You've missed it.
I choose feminism over "Leftism", though they intersect for me, because in the end, misogyny is global and ubiquitous and leftist men will ultimately choose women last. THERE IS NO REASON FOR AN ACTRESS OF THIS CALIBLRE TO PUT HERSELF IN THIS SPOTLIGHT AND YOU ARE A DULLARD TO NANO-SUGGEST THERE IS ANY NUANCE HERE.
ОтветитьI loved Turkiye. What I disliked is never being opportuned to meet Turkish women. Just men. The only Turkish women I met were in the UK. Do not gild the lily of your cultural "outsidership". You are the product of your upbringing as much as anyone else and that part of your brain does not speak "frontal cortex"
And BTW, neo-nazis will not permit your whiteness the moment you outlive whatever utility you might have to them now.