EK Direct Die Cooling: 13900KS gains are big

EK Direct Die Cooling: 13900KS gains are big

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@samishiikihaku
@samishiikihaku - 19.03.2023 05:28

The delid tool stripping is DEFINITELY a durability issue.
@JayzTwoCents just posted his video with this kit, and he had a similar issue. The threads didn't get chewed up like yours, but the tool probably couldn't be used again after 1 CPU went through it.

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@jefflo455
@jefflo455 - 19.03.2023 11:05

@KitGuru lots of people having poor performance on the EK DD, and i think we figured it out, the cold plate is made convex which i think is wrong, convex plate is good only for proc with IHS, on direct die it should be as flat as posible

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@Squall4Rinoa
@Squall4Rinoa - 20.03.2023 07:01

There appears to be a batch of these directdie blocks that are milled incorrectly and have a convex raised plate.

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@istominmusic
@istominmusic - 22.03.2023 03:52

Насколько громко работает такая систем охдаждения?

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@WilliamHamala-b5z
@WilliamHamala-b5z - 23.03.2023 04:08

is it okay to use Thermal past instead liquid metal when direct die cooling?

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@SuperTurkumies
@SuperTurkumies - 26.03.2023 04:23

You left us in a such cliffhanger could you pls tell what was the cinebench score in the end :)

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@360sully360
@360sully360 - 30.03.2023 23:21

when you get your hands on a 13900k and you just hot 100 degreese all the time and dont wanna use the computer. Then you find this video and more messing with your pc for more fps lets go :)

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@eskwadrat
@eskwadrat - 01.04.2023 21:58

Someone who is attempting to run PC submerged in the purified water, asking questions why is it not running is a moron. So i'm sorry but debauer is not exactly my figure. Cooperating with amateurs with no sense of engineering approach to a problem, executing trial and error methods instead, results in a product like this EKWB delider to be defective by design. Great job.

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@AnnMeteo
@AnnMeteo - 05.04.2023 04:37

lots of people are having issue with the EK Direct Die like this one

I have same issue.
At water temp 20 degree celcius, my 13900ks with ek dd can only costs up to 400watt at 110 degree celcius.
I reinstalled 7 times, repaste liquid metal, results are same. 400watt with 110 celcius. 330 watt with 80 celcius.
This result is same as heatkiller 4 pro with Stock IHS. 400 watt with 110 degree.
Actually, ek dd is worse than normal cpu block. Core temp difference on heatkiller is only 7 degree difference, however ek dd is more than 15 degree. Core4, 7, and 8 extremely high.
Once I changed to iceman dd, i got cured. At 330 watt it is only 60 degree.
550 watt with 110 degree.
Shame on you, ek
What did de8auer do?
Just rent reputation and have money?
Than just decrease the price without name on it.
I dont think ek will recall this garbage product.
People who bought this product expect good cooling performance, not the same performance with stock ihs.
And also, why does ek always delay their product? Once you said it will start deliver on mid Feb, it supposed to start at least 20 Feb. It is promise with customer, especially you received money first.
If you guys think you cannot gurantee the time, than receive money later.
I was big fan of ek, no more.
Quality keeps decreasing, price keeps increasing, and most of product need to be rma. Im tired of this.

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@karendavila836
@karendavila836 - 08.04.2023 07:40

failed product what a shame EK

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@jmoore9806
@jmoore9806 - 08.04.2023 10:07

Overkill......liquid metal does a direct die contact once Delid'ed

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@meatamigo3428
@meatamigo3428 - 09.04.2023 07:02

Just got mine in the mail finally. Not the gold one but my first direct die project. Got a 13900ks as well with a really good imc

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@meatamigo3428
@meatamigo3428 - 09.04.2023 07:05

Once you get one of those noctua fans you can’t use anything else

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@Deltatwo3
@Deltatwo3 - 10.04.2023 00:03

To anyone looking to get an EK direct die kit... I would definitely wait another 6 months and let them sort things out. A lot of creators are hiding issues. I've had mine for a little under a week and just got stable temps with my 5th re paste/ re mount. They are worse than using the regular velocity 2 block with IHS. I wouldn't be posing this but it seems like this issue is common so definitely wait.

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@ryanboytim896
@ryanboytim896 - 11.04.2023 07:55

Such a pain in the ass, having to delid + deal with liquid metal + custom water loop to even get the 13900k manageable... ugh

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@Typhon888
@Typhon888 - 26.04.2023 12:37

You didn't heat the CPU. How could you make such a noob mistake like that?

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@KYSMO
@KYSMO - 06.05.2023 00:54

It would probably be a good idea to put the CPU into the socket while removing the stock ILM just in case you accidently drop anything in the socket.

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@Echo4Yankee
@Echo4Yankee - 06.05.2023 07:22

I will pay someone to do this for me.

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@trixualz219
@trixualz219 - 06.05.2023 20:21

Has anyone had any response from ek about the high temp issues? I'm having the same issues in getting up to 100 degrees Celsius whereas kitguru gets 75?

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@johnmcmurphy1007
@johnmcmurphy1007 - 11.05.2023 10:43

Thank you for this great video!
I'm currently using an Arctic Liquid Freezer II AIO 420mm and wish I would have an EKWB Quantum Velocity² Direct Die Cooler.
The heat transition from Die to IHS to the AIO is that bad that it nearly doesn't matter how big the Radiator is.
The liquid doesn't get any warm and I can keep it very quiet.
But on the other side the thermals of my Core i9-13900KF quickly raise up to 100 degree Celsius,
no matter how fast the fans are spinning. The weak point is the IHS.
I can't get stable beyond 6.00 GHz or 5.6+ GHz All-Core and 300+ Watts result in 100+°C.

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@pupsaderpupin5627
@pupsaderpupin5627 - 15.05.2023 20:43

Given the direct collaboration between KitGuru and EKWB on this product, I expected a followup (from KitGuru) on EK's public admission that some direct die kits simply do not make sufficient contact and cause the chip to throttle. Instead of thermal improvements, many customers have received instead many wasted hours, disassemblies, and damage to their rigs. In other words, the exact opposite of the product's intended purpose!

You told us how great it is, and encouraged us to buy it, now do the right thing and post a followup.

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@brightoskar9469
@brightoskar9469 - 22.05.2023 18:19

Is this a in combination with a water pump in the CPU water block or with still be connected to the water pump in other words is it liquid cool or water cooling.?????

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@Engineering_Science
@Engineering_Science - 24.05.2023 19:40

Thats crazy, would've never realized we would come to a point of time where people are now removing IHS for custom water cooling, doesn't this void the warranty of the CPU?

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@doekele.1981
@doekele.1981 - 02.06.2023 00:10

I use it 2 min work easy to use

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@PhilipParkHwbot
@PhilipParkHwbot - 02.06.2023 06:16

There is some temp issue this block thikness is have some problem 0.15mm and socket guide Frame 0.1mm is thikness so there need to manufacture it

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@jensbiernot312
@jensbiernot312 - 17.06.2023 19:31

Hello, very cool video, but what interests me the most is how did you get the CPU so clean, you could almost think your CPU has never seen any glue :D
I've already beheaded one or the other CPU, but I always had quite a problem cleaning the CPU after beheading it because the glue still sticks well and you don't want to scratch it with great force.
Maybe someone here has a tip on how to do it in one way or another.

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@weidemanTV
@weidemanTV - 31.07.2023 01:23

this is so awesome brother. i am wiating for my direct die block from ek. i got everything else prepped i am very excited to see how this turns out.

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@citizen_or_civilian
@citizen_or_civilian - 31.07.2023 02:23

Will this fit the upcoming Raptor Lake Refresh dies?

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@HD-nv9ru
@HD-nv9ru - 02.08.2023 15:01

Anyone knows all the cooler parts used in this video ?

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@audiosyncracy
@audiosyncracy - 03.08.2023 01:08

I delidded a 13th gen CPU and found it was easier with a heat gun. I wore some gloves and heated the thing for 15-30 seconds, tightend the bolt 1-3 threads, put it back on the heat for 15-20 seconds, checked the screw. Eventually the screw would move more freely, and going back and forth adding a little bit of heat and screwing the heat spreader I was able to get it off without over wrenching anything.

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@runebdrim6733
@runebdrim6733 - 07.08.2023 14:51

It is expected new cpus will come next year much more efficient

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@wayne69wayne69
@wayne69wayne69 - 07.08.2023 19:39

What cooling are u using

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@russellcrowe187
@russellcrowe187 - 08.08.2023 03:31

Somthing failed on my motherboard after putting new cpu paste on and Iooked in and I must have caught one pin on the edge of the cpu and bent it completely around waiting on a new motherboard so I can use my pc again

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@danih9523
@danih9523 - 22.08.2023 02:23

Way to much Liquid Metal on the cpu I would say !

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@JaySerano
@JaySerano - 08.09.2023 15:54

Dude spending 3 hours trying to delid LOL

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@Subaru_God
@Subaru_God - 09.09.2023 04:28

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@davesway1170
@davesway1170 - 09.09.2023 16:46

Nice video

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@MaxNakfoor
@MaxNakfoor - 16.09.2023 21:53

WHY IS THE COLDPLATE CONVEX? SILICON IS FLAT, NOT CONCAVE!

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@RoolfusFreunde
@RoolfusFreunde - 09.10.2023 18:10

Hab ich mit einem 13900k gemacht. Hat viel zu viel Strom verbraucht :) Ist jetzt mein Zweitrechner. Der neue ist R9 7950X3D und ne 4070. Da passt das mit dem Strom. Aber der Kühler von EK ist der Hammer, bringt aber nichts wenn man normale Wärmeleitpaste verwendet.

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@TheGrammarNazi123
@TheGrammarNazi123 - 21.11.2023 09:02

I think this guy might have asthma.

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@EdwarDxCorE
@EdwarDxCorE - 02.01.2024 00:55

I bought this in May 2023 and didnt receive it until September 2023. I learned that the long delay was because of the manufacturing error, either the chip guard being too high or the cold plate not being flat, depending on what side you're hearing from. I can tell you now that while I'm willing to throw this in the trash, it's definitely overpriced and underperforms. Poor manufacturing and QA/QC is evident when it's not possible to install due to the back plate being slightly bent and the thumbscrews not installed correctly from the manufacturer. I've asked for a replacement from EKWB.

All the while, I have already placed an order from AliExpress for the Iceman Direct Die and will be getting the Supercooler for the 14th gen, both of which has been reported to massively outperform the EKWB, if only because the EKWB massively underperforms. Will update you all soon on the resolution to my replacement request, if granted, and how the other coolers perform.

There's no doubt that the EKWB block is the prettiest, but I can honestly say that I am in a form of hell working with EKWB from my time putting together their GPU blocks to working with their other watercooling items and finding issues with tolerances or stripped threading, simply concerns that a customer should never worry or have to deal with when buying from a known brand, as EK is as household name a watercooling brand can get.

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@Fr0stkeule
@Fr0stkeule - 08.01.2024 00:10

For me its not work i hits even with the Direkt Die 100C on some Cores

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@luckyshot_007
@luckyshot_007 - 04.02.2024 03:51

can this be done on a i9 14900k cpu ?

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@nerdypcbuilder
@nerdypcbuilder - 22.02.2024 02:16

I got a i7 14700k and delidded it as soon as I got it home and used direct die running it at 5.9 all core stable without a sweat. Direct die is definitely the way to go with 14th gen.. well that is if you're not scared to delid a 400 dollar CPU and I did it with a 8 dollar delid tool.

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@mrgcav
@mrgcav - 10.03.2024 23:56

I have one of these kits. Way overkill packaging.

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@LetsFixITJoe
@LetsFixITJoe - 22.04.2024 07:30

no wonder EK is done now...chunky peace of expensive JUST COOLING - i love my AC Fr3 :)) - ive been a cutom WK guy but nowadays it makes almost no sense... can be done cheap and effective...
EK Waterblocks just lost his sight years ago...its JUST COOLING

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@yosixxx
@yosixxx - 25.06.2024 13:24

next time please show core voltage while benchmark is running

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@mart446
@mart446 - 11.10.2024 17:53

The tool should be made of steel, not aluminum. Very least it should have steel nut insterts.

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