Identifying the Post-Babel Dispersion - Dr. Doug Petrovich (Conf Lecture)

Abraham obeyed God and left Mesopotamia and Dr Petrovich obeyed God and went there.

the problem with this is that there is plenty of evidence of people living around the world on or before any civilizations in what is now Iraq. In Africa, China, Australia, etc. people were living for 50,000 years, there is no real evidence that everyone came from Iraq.

The main hurtle I have trouble with regarding his thesis is how far he says people had already spread long before the confusion of languages. If God confused the languages to get the people to spread out, how far could they have expanded while still disobeying this command? How far could people have expanded while still having to be participants in the punishment of having their languages confused even though they didn't participate in the idea of the Tower? However, if his thesis IS true, notice that all the places he says people had already spread by the time languages were confused spoke Semitic languages later. So, if their languages didn't change at Babel, but just drifted over time, then the unified language would've been a proto-semitic language and maybe the only people whose languages were confused were those in southern Mesopotamia who did participate. So maybe those who had already spread were faithful and only became idolatrous late in the Ubaid Period having learned it from the Sumerians. I'll have to read his book to tell how to reconcile these details.

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Wow those were the signs of urban life and civilization! The cities were protected, they had an army to protect, a central ruler, higher scribes, etc...
Now compare that with "Sleepy Flintstone Joe" in USA.
~His isn't centrally ruling, the deep state does, including Jezakamelabel
~ Army to protect? But Here he's defunding the Police protection!
~ They had mass production, "*Sleepy Flintstone Joe*" is closing businesses and factories!
~ They had higher scribes, and "Sleepy Flintstone Joe" have Media Tech dropped-outs dictating what's correct and instructing schools to erase and re-writing history books. . .
~Unbelievable!!!
Sleepy Flintstone Joe is taking us back to prehistoric ages!

Maybe we'll end abandoning our tower start speaking Chinese!

They wanted the tower's top to be in "Heaven " where God dwells.
That's why they built the tower.
However, unbeknownst to them they couldn't build a tower to reach "heaven"
Why else build a tower ?

So, you're wrong . They literally meant "Heaven " !
And you're teaching ???
You're not qualified nor called of God to teach scripture.

This is very interesting, thank you! I wonder why the presenter says a couple times that if writing existed before dispersion (after a ship was built and after the beginning of building a tower) that there should be multiple scripts of the original language? Why would there be different scripts of the same language within an undispersed people? The evidence of writing before dispersement would not be multiple languages in one script.
They couldn’t even form the same language with their mouths after the confusion, so their minds, and possibly mouth muscles, must have been drastically changed. I wouldn’t expect them to be able to read the old language anymore either.

Very knowledgeable person!

Soooo....what's the takeaway???

Is the Ubaid period then not the period of Shem and Arphaxad? You stated even this period has evidence of sections for idols in homes...

Which period then has no remains or traces of idols?

Pretty much it's not from Egypt nonsense that many people try to say it is .

i got this going on in the background while i'm working, and right when i'm researching vinegar production he starts talking about alcohol bottles with the drooping spout. as some might already guess, alcohol being broken down apparently makes acetic acid, and that is part of vinegar making according to the paper i was reading. uncanny, lol.

If it says they came from the east, they came from the east, and somewhere you are wrong.

No, “high into the sky” is not the point.
Into the realm of the heavens was. Creating a doorway for Enki to enter.

Is this a joke? Trying to pass as history the myth of the Babel Tower, or Noah's Arc? There is not a shred of evidence that can stand to independent scrutiny. Perhaps you should concentrate on Atlantis, or the hometown of the Flintstones.

I would think that those standard issue bowls and compound defensive walls suggests military garrisons , not regular people moving to a new area.

Drivel

It’s so annoying people think that this was a true event 😂😂😂

How do you account for there being people in China, South East Asia, Australia more than 40,000 years ago, and in North America more than 10,000 years ago.

Neanderthals, Denisovans ?
Palaeontology, Biology, Geology, Archeology, Physics, Cosmology are REAL sciences.
They ALL refute the Genesis mythology.

Genesis is ridiculous fantasy.

Then on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Sprit enters and all could understand in their own language. Babel undone.

Whomever was sitting next to the camera is a heavy breather.🤣

It must’ve been taller than the collossus of Rhodes… it should have been one of the wonders of the ancient world

So basically you are saying there was not ONE tower, but many? And which were those who built "THE TOWER"? The Uruk or the Ubaid? Sounds like it's the Uruk... IMHO

first ( real ) Jerusalem and Babylon are in Serbia! jews, greeks, arabians, persians, ( chinese? ) vatikan...rewrote it in thierown favor. serbian echoes of eternity...

You can certainly see when Nimrod entered the picture.

Thank you for your work fellow Buckeye.

Doug, you are incredibly talented! Thank you!

I hear about the Tower of Babel, and the dispersion of the nations. I’m of the opinion that the builders went to different parts of the world, since there are pyramid structures around the world.

Magnificent work..thank you so much..wonderful and fascinating to listen to...

Ur of the Chaldeans is not the same as Ur in the south of Mesopotamia. The old town where Abraham came from is probably a ancient town called Ursa in east Turk. By the time of Abraham it was inhabited by aramean clans. Later in the time of Moses it was inhabitated by Chaldean clans (Chaldeans were Aramean tribes who adopted the indoeuropean religion of the urartians).

Pieter Bruegel I ?

The first 1/2hr was slides with hundreds of words printed and few if no maps, lost interest in watching; its just friggin confusing -- not good!

People are wonderful creatures.

Thank you, Dr. Petrovic, outstanding 👏 🙌 ❤️

Assuming the Pentateuch was written during Moses’ time in Sinai, was the pre- and post flood ancestral chronology passed on by word of mouth since no written language existed or was this ancestral chronology also given by GOD to Moses? I find it hard to believe all the details could have reliably been passed on without some form of record keeping before the advent of written language 🤔

Sorry. Projecting the Bible OT on languages is like taking Adam and Eve literally. Visionary comments about past mytho poetic time need to be categorized. Modern knowledge is possible because of Jesus, and spiritual religious phenomena have been undercategorized. I'm Harvard college bio anthro plus much more, and like a PhD in stuff like this, but just not yet empowered by God to write it up. In the meantime.....

The problem is that when people in the past have tried to conform the Bible to their findings, they have been eventually proven wrong.

I believe weighting existed from creation. Just because we don’t have examples from before a certain time does not prove it didn’t exist.

He who is, Is NOT the Name of the Creator YHWH/YHUH Yad Hay Uwa Hay, Yad Hay=Y'aH, Uwa=oooW, +Hay oooW-aH, He Who is, is a very simple translation, but is not a transliteration. Plus look at the ancient Chinese writings, they describe a mass migration, and the Barashith/Gen story. Their Ancient writings is nearly identical to the "Pictographic" Hebrew.

What Genesis 11 reveals is deep. The long-lived sons and grandsons of Noah, who possessed advanced knowledge from the ante-deluvian world, journeyed and built. There was a first settlement near India or the Himalayas, where the ark must have landed, and at least one group moved west from that base camp and attempted to build a city and tower in Shinar, but they were judged by God and the builders and false-worshippers were sent scattering over the globe. Then their descendants DID build cities and towers, in service to false religion, and many of them are still partly standing today on every continent. The first 3 generations after Noah contained men with life spans greater than 400 years and must have been godlike compared to humans today. These were the great men of renown like Hercules, Dionysius, Nimrod, Gilgamesh, Jupiter, etc., who got placed at the root of many national mythological narratives.

The elites have deliberately deceived us by fabricating an entirely false world view based on fake science and "lost" history to conceal the plain truth. Their deception traces its origin back to Babel, and from there all the way back to the serpent's false promise to Eve in Paradise, "Ye shall be as gpds" The information age has exposed their fraud, even though it has perfected their dominance.

I'm grateful for your research, I'm just wondering when you date the Noahic flood and how it relates to the expansions in Mesopotamia, and the emergeance of writing. I want to clarify, are you stating there was no writing prior to the flood? What about all the megalithic structures worldwide?

Amen! Praise HIS Glorious Name!

Ron wyatt found the real site. Due west from arrarat.

Great history lesson. I believe this happened right after the great flood sometimes called Noah's flood. I also believe the ice age happened after the flood about 4,000 years ago. Also i believe that underwater cities that are know being found were built during the ice age. Were these cities also built during the ice age?

Personal opinion/view here. I really enjoyed this video but I think archaeology should be looking at the factual evidence of archaeology first, and then comparing it with the Bible and the reason why I say that is because if you pull out the Bible first, and although I believe it’s a historical source, it will actually drive people away from viewing it as a viable source. (Because people have bias.) so I think, looking at things like these tablets written in what I assumed to be Porto-cuneiform and other pieces of physical archaeological evidence and then comparing and contrasting it with a theological and or biblical understanding, is the best way to go about it.

The Lord speaks to us from his holy and infallible word whether or not we can prove or show the historic. We can do only so much with history because human history is not exhaustively available to us. As much as we know and can prove it does not compensate for all we do not and can not know. I am glad and grateful for the earnest and sincere scholarship, which Gof has decreed we should possess particularly on the linguistic level without which we would not have holy writing we call the Bible. Surely we should love, appreciate good scholarship especially by those who know and love our Lord Jesus and all Christians ought to appropriate and delve into that scholarship so that we can become more familiar with the very word of God. All of Gods people should strive for and covet knowledge and understanding in order to enhance God's truth.

Babilonia refers to a region. Notice the -ia ending. Just like Mesopotamia, and my Name.