Aviation experts react to video showing plane just before crash

Heavy load of luggage compartment plane can't pickup the speed people in india and Pakistan travel with very heavy luggage they don't think is anything wrong with that i think that's the problem

Landing gear is still down wtf also they would only use flaps 5 so how would you see them in the video

Has anyone here considered any Weight and balance (load sheets) issues before releasing the airplane for their flight? How about the condition of the cargo compartments (ATA 25)? Was there any ADD on cargo hoisting or security items? If the hoisting equipment for cargoes in this aircraft’s “snaps off” and all the cargo moves at the AFT, will it affect the airplane’s %MAC? If on takeoff and suddenly the %MAC shifts beyond the acceptable (computed) W&B limits, will this airplane maintain balance and control during takeoff? Anyway, let’s wait for the process of aviation safety investigation. This accident did not happen in an “open waters” situation, so the retrieval process of the evidence, especially the SSCVR and SSDFDR (aka black boxes for the laypeople), should not be that challenging. What aspect of human factors are we looking at in this aviation accident? Is this the usual, or something new? The world is watching this, and those in the civil aviation community will be following this closely.

Kate has extremely unpleasant voice. I can’t believe CNN keeps her. What an angry person.

Pleaes do not try to influence public view against the pilots. That is what is being done here in this video to save Boeing.

Did the CVR reveal anything from the communication in the cockpit prior to the crash?

Investigate the lone survivor

No flaps.

Just stop flying people

News reports yesterday say that the pilot told air traffic control that he was not able to climb.

I think eventually all the investigation report put blame on Pilot and save the Boeing company.

Lots of BS and smokescreen being set up. They are all just taking the easy way out blaming the pilots to shift attention. It almost seems like a conspiracy or propaganda machine at work.

How can any of these guys see if the flaps are up or down from these videos? The difference between flaps retracted or deployed is so subtle on this airplane that it is simply impossible to tell. RAT (Ram Air Turbines) seems to have been deployed based on the sound the plane makes in the original recording of the video (not the cctv, but the recording made by someone with their phone) which only happens when both engines have failed.

Without flaps deployed the aircraft wouldn’t take off, it sounds lots of warnings. And flaps controls are so far apart, and look and operate so different from landing gear that there is simply no way any trained pilot would mistake one with another.

The landing gear is still down because of hydraulics pumps failure which in turn is caused by failure of both the engines - the same reason the plane lost thrust. The pilots didn’t seem to have any time from they time they realised they had no thrust to the time they crashed, and in any case the airplane was already on its way down by the time RAT is deployed and they were already focused on fighting to keep the plane flying, so no wonder the landing gear was still down as they went down.

Its total engine and electrical failure
Boeing is responsible

Deep CONDOLENCE
TO ALL D FAMILIES

The 787 takeoff flaps setting is 5 degrees; it’s a very slight extension and just not possible to see that level of detail from this distant video. It’s not as obvious as the flaps 30 or flaps 40 you’d set for landing, and there is a photo of wing debris which seems to show a modest flaps extension. There was a mayday call, so raising the gear might not have been their priority if they’re dealing with a more pressing technical problem. More, if they assess they’re losing the aircraft, leaving the gear down would help mitigate impact, if they can reach a flat area. Lastly, the mayday call is reported to mention loss of power - not clear if the pilot said electrical power or thrust, but neither is good right after takeoff. The data and voice recorders are going to be crucial, and it looks like they’ll be readily recoverable. At the very least it will show when in the takeoff sequence the flaps were set, and when electrical power failed. Thoughts and sympathies for all affected, and let’s trust the answers will be revealed quite soon.

I have some experience on airline accidents and this is just my idea and it’s not official but the flaps position aren’t in proper position

Doesn't the aircraft itself alert the pilots if it is not properly configured for takeoff, i.e. flaps & slats not extended?

No survivors? One man survived you absolute idiots!

I hate how presenters feel the need to protect viewers by warning them that the footage is upsetting. We're not five years of age.

A fully loaded 787-8 would get almost zero lift, let alone have a 2 degree angle of attack that you can see on the CC TV video, if there were no flaps deployed. Also if they were not in the proper take off configuration, the systems would have made very loud warnings and sounds of all kinds to warn the pilots.

Terrible delivery by the anchor in the first minute of the video.

Final Destination 😮😮😮

Some saying, co-pilot upped the flaps instead of landing gears. Can it be?

I can already say they will blame the pilot and maintenance.

...that plane was underpowered... 😮

Who builds a school or hospital at the end and path of a runway? My condolences to the loved ones of the unfortunate of this very sad accident.

...when the airspeed is too low, the flight controls are useless, too low an airspeed, causes the craft to fall to the ground... 😮

...boeng also had problems with the 737 max, wonder how its doing... 😮

boeing

Don't buy Boeing plane please

Exactly like Ethiopian airlines crash, something must not is going ywith Boeing.
Boeing is killing 10X more than airbus 😢

Raised flaps instead of gear?! Other issues?! RAT!?

If it's Boeing I'm not Going.

Who were the passengers?

Who did maintenance?

Sincere condolences to all families

Air India - always the cheaper option, for a reason.

Our Prayers and condolences to the Bereaved Family.

Airport surroundings should be vacant. Why build an airport so near to residential area or why allow construction so near to an airport. Tall buildings and garbage attracting birds are a recipe for disaster waiting to happen. With clear surrounding, the plane still had a change to crash land and maybe had less casualties.

Imagine if you were in the plane when it took off. The death rate is 100%; nobody is escaping this alive, and that is why we all need Jesus Christ, because he has conquered death for us. ♥♥♥

The sole survivor was on seat 11A and the hospital bed he got was a 11 number too. One of the ex CM of Gujarat was also travelling and his Car and bike had a number 1206, his death date.

Rip

This is a fly-by-wire aircraft. Would its computers not have generated audible warnings and displayed messages about the flaps not being set and also to suggest that it needed a "gear up"? Since these are critical, should the computers not extend the flaps and lift the landing gear if the pilot does not?

How to become rich and famous: develop a bird deflecting system for jet engines.

Why do all the Democrats and leftist have such a disgusting frown scowl line?

why is she wearing a head scarf in London?

God bless the peaceful indian people. Losing so many doctors is horiffic

I hear a Loud noise of the engine from the video. No expert is talking about that. Isnt it evident there is no engine failure 😢

That footage, total OH MY GOD moment for me! Too sad for words!😭😭😭😭😭😭 My heart goes out to the friends and family of the victims as well as the lone survivor.