The NEW OVERHEALING META in Space Marine 2

I love playing the Vanguard but I absolutely hate the class. Why? Because it's what the Assault Class should be. Thematically it's the most out-of-place, weird, whack-a-doodle class in Space Marine 2. In all the 40k books I've read, I've never read of any kind of grapnel specialist. And it existing in the game just steals the Assault Class's thunder. Why they added this guy over a Librarian, Apothecary, or Chaplain, I'll never understand. But it's fun as hell to play.

Woooow someone read the patchnote

Taking into account that this video pertains to patch 3.0. I noticed when you displayed the still image of the “adrenaline rush” signature perk in this video, none of the gear perks from your “max level vanguard class deep dive” changed. I was wondering if there were any changes to the core or team perks as a result of the patch?

Great gameplay TV! Good to know that this class can get some healing, I'll get them on the list to bring up to level cap

Dude that vanguard perk I never even bought because I was like "1%? Whys it in the game then"

bro literally saw this coming, was a bulwark main before but now im a vanguard main after the update

the three round burst is so bad to level up it’s just terrible coming from a lvl 25 sniper and tactical but vanguard is cool after grenade launder nerf

I think they should’ve left that bug in the game

The game now After the nerf is so easy that you really don't need to think.played max diff using lvl 7 assault in the mission against hell drake and i got just 1 KO.

The game is plagued with level 1s and 2s who have 0 idea how to even play running ruthless right now! This is another build I'll have to use to carry these clowns when they load in just cuz match making still takes forever. But for real, stop trying to run ruthless betting on someone who actually knows how to play carrying you, you're messing the game up for everyone who's earned their place in ruthless by leveling up and grinding!

You guys need to heal red hp ?

Nothing new about it, that's how the perk always worked but the description was wrong

Played vanguard before patch that 10 percent helps the whole team out too. I like the instigator for it's utility. Floating enemies are easier now. The Instigator also has decent damage compared to other bolt guns it can be decent on a tier lower than corresponding difficulty

Id say you get so much armor back now that you don't really need a red health heal.

Id also say the melta is definitely the best on vanguard still. It lets you fight chaos and devourers as the melta can help keep enemies stunned.

Basically you can go up to a chaos flamer do a light combo, pop a melta shot, and then do another light combo followed by an execute with out having to worry about them teleporting or shorting you in melee.

I mean, you can get 100 of your health back if you do an execution or use a stim when you put your banner down as the bulkwark. And that is anyone near the banner so all your team can go back to 100% if they have a stim that will give you your contested health back.

I like to play Vanguard as a guardian angel. I try to keep an eye on both teammates. I kill ranged enemies that are shooting my melee boys, and i keep hordes off my heavies and snipers. The grapple hook lets you literally fly in and interrupt enemies if you see a teammate start to take hits or get grabbed.
Also. killing a hive tyrant with a foot to the face brings me extreme joy. I didnt know i needed that in my life, but it is now better for it.

New patch makes high level Bulwarks more or less necessary since every time they drop their flag the whole team gets a full bar of contested HP. Pretty much the only way you can sustain a squads health any more. Personally I think Majoris or up executions should always heal you a little, maybe 5% or something, just so you don't feel so pressured by chip damage from ranged enemies if nothing else.

I refuse to play vanguard and scout because I hate their boots

Dude, why did you have to make this video?? I just switched to vanguard because i got sick of being matched with other bulwarks, heavys and tacticals😂

YESSSSS

Seems like the two classes bulwark and vanguard have some regen but the other classes seem quite out of luck

Perks?

I've gotten the Assault, the Bulwark, and the Tactical all to level 25 and since I've been leveling up my Vanguard, I've got to say - this is my favorite class so far in Operations. With the ability to survive indefinitely in most situations just by parrying and using the melta for crowd control, it feels like this is how the game is truly meant to be played.

if u still need to use an exploit,cheese or meta POST NERF there is no hope for you.

I find that instigator bolt rifle works better paired with chain sword for vanguard. It alters the playstyle a bit, against minoris hordes the chain sword works much better than the combat knife and still deals very good single-target damage. instigator reliably covers all ranges beyond that, and actually puts out really good damage just hipfiring it into a major's head just outside of melee range.

uhh ok, but i dont want to play Vanguard. What am i supposed to do then?
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You can just run underneath a Neurothrope or Zoanthrope with a melta and still do damage. The downside is you are in range of it's recently nerfed psychic scream. Which means it's less of a death sentence now and the same strat is even more reasonable to attempt. You're not useless against extremis with a melta bro.

Vanguard doesn't have the perk stacking the sniper and tactical have for damage dealing. The meta will still be sniper, tactical, and heavy composition.

that being said, the melta nerf should be the start of many rebalancing patches for the future. I would love to see Operations have a long and prosperous life. I want to have a fun shooter that has raids/activities similar to Destiny 1 and 2; the 40k universe is prime materials for this type of storytelling and gameplay.

I feel like every class should just have “heal 2% health on majoris execution” by default. 10% is too much for a built in passive, but 2%? That’s more than reasonable. We should be rewarded for aggressive play. It’s not like being able to heal is OP…you miss 1 parry and you can go from full to 0 before you even blink 😂

vanguard catapults from the top, to the top? XD

I dont know why you have to cheat in this game. It's not hard if you git guud.

Boo, go back to D2

I really like the bulwark banner ability letting the team fully heal.

I remember soooo many vanguard guides saying "1%? This perk sucks. Never use it!".

I play with 4 different classes always with randoms, I already cleared multiple ruthless, and I can see some behaviour that usually fucks the runs. Usually the run is fucked because people is not aware or don't care about the team, so, be aware of your team and it will be easier to finish the runs.
Some tips: If your team have a heavy, leave some amo boxes fot him, if you have a sniper or vanguard, leave the armor filler to them, of course mark the itens, if you have your armor filled or almost filled, do execute wait to see if your brother will do the finisher, maybe he needs the armor, bulwarks do not panic use the flag, use it to restore helt of the team or revive them, tactical use your scan on majors and extremis, not on minors, they will die very fast anyway, and use your scan perks to majors and extremis, the extra damage is very good.

Screw the meta, all weapons could and should be used.....

vanguard repping vanguard huh lol. between sniper and vanguard those are my mains. with tacitcal n 3rd.

My fellow Vanguard enjoyer you speak heresy. The melta does not become useless against neurothropes. That said, the risk of using it increases if your dodging isnt perfect. Easily punished and certainly not optimal, but possible if your team goes down halfway into the fight and you have no other choice.....

I do Ruthless while levelling up my Vanguard.
It's basically EZ Assault, and I levelled Assault to 25 before I ever went near Vanguard.

Make sure y’all parry small enemies. You get armor back if your parry kills the the small guys. Also the bulwark is your best friend with the melta if you need health back

Been a vanguard main since day one. Favorite class. Super fun dynamic playstyle.

I still find people complaining about the overheal fix and saying game is unplayable. Honestly if you needed that bug then you just need to get good in all respect, but I will say sometimes the timing of enemy waves does screw me over here and there.

Vanguard is my favorite class. The ability to grapnel to enemies makes the movement so fun

Wish I could over heal in PvP lol. I do ok as assault taking on more than 1 player at a time but anything more than that and it’s an easy game over. Games great though just needs some tweaking!

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Loving the content on this TV!

Savor this while you can brothers, The enemies are adapting. Soon these sights, Much like peace, will a memories of a happier time.

The devs aim to nerf the overheal next patch.

So this is why im playing tactical and im about to execute and vanguards come in to steal the it, so kicking them before the game starts is the way forward got it

For me what kills it is the Vanguards annoying voice compared to the others. The strained, edgy voicelines is too much.