Taxiway Confusion: ATC and Pilot in Verbal Dispute / ATC Recording #aviation

ATC can not legally prevent someone from a full stop landing. So good luck there, atc guy. The pilot will have a number for you to call.

I believe the female pilot is the only one in the wrong here

God is alive and well in the tower.

Still should not work in that field anymore, someone will get killed because their ego is bigger than their job.

It is very difficult for people who have been given any amount of authority to at the same time retain any humility.

It is very difficult for people who have been given any amount of authority to at the same time retain any humility. For some, it is not possible.

HIGHLY unprofessional behavior from ATC! Getting called out for his incompetence so threatens other pilots.

The pilot should’ve landed and requested a real controller next time.

Idk much about all this however as an old guy i would say in my experience it's most likely upper management not informing folks of changes and all

I own a fixed wing flight school and would highly advise any pilot who flys frequently out of the same airport NOT to make enemies with a controller.

🫏🫏 both 😭😭🤼‍♂️

What is this, ATC and pilot having a Who's the Least Professional Contest?

What the hell, why is everybody letting their ego control them. People we are destroying this beautiful county

I love this channel. Everyone knows everything ;)

What the hell is with all this attitude? Do these people not understand that all this assholeology has a direct impact on safety? This is not about who gets their way, it is about providing a safe concise efficient airspace transition. Listen up dopes: communicating complete information in a few words is what is needed and must happen.

You do NOT argue with ATC on comms. Period. It's THEIR airport. You do what THEY say, and if you have an opinion about it, you keep it to yourself until you're on closed comms or directly communicating with someone higher up.

Hello faa. Please put a stop of this american atc please

DEI at work.

Do atc really like this? With attitude and power trips?

Everyone here saying its the ATCs fault its not. Helos are told landing is their own risk all the time , its common procedure

Baby in the control tower. That's dangerous! Bro needs to be permanently removed from that job.

the tower should definitely know their shit

This is a cash me outside kinda moment...

sorry and this man passed all the tests to be an atc..... smh

Maybe some context is missing here that gives a misleading bias; I always assume so especially with media today, but if this is all the conversation that happened, then yeah controller is a dick; either way should had taken 10 more seconds before starting the day for more coffee if his excuse for being that rude is “I just started the day”

If only we had an FAA that looked out for these situations and a well structured staff of ATC. Oh well, could be avoided.

Average contract tower

Not cleared to land there? Want to bet? Declare an emergency. Low fuel, need to land immediately. Your play, ATC.

ATC is a loser. Go work at the DMV with that attitude.

Pilot to ATC: are you declaring an emergency? Donuts and morons on board when you get a chance?

I watched one of these video's a long time ago, and the pilot (either a Qantas or Speedbird heavy) put ATC in their place. Something along the lines of "I don't appreciate your unprofessional attitude". Funniest thing was some of the US pilots trying to console the ATC with lines like "you weren't that bad, sir"

Pilot : ATC : I will give you a number to call, after I land.

The controller is acting like a child.

someone from Long Island that’s snarky? you don’t say 😂

Between this and female Blackhawk pilots who don’t need no man telling her how to fly a Blackhawk around landing planes, it’s a wonder anything lands safely in the joke of a country that is the USA

It's not like air space has a holiday period where they can repaint everything and have some training days to catch up on everything that they forgot about.

Everything gets documented, every day. Changes to a taxi way label would be crazy to happen without the right changes, briefings and approvals.

ATC is an adult baby

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ATC attitude escalated that conversation when he was clearly in the wrong.

A petulant frenzy

DEI controllers

La la la la la la I’m not listening to you La la la la la I’m the ATC and you can’t land, nyah nyah nyah. 😄

Especially in the age where we are seeing more and more helicopter mishap at airports, this tantram is particularly egregious for the simple fact you are risking other people's lives while getting involved in your feelings.

The atc guy is responsible for all actions and directions he gives, until he hands off air traffic, a pilot accepts to fly under their own guidance or vfr.
IF a controller is unsure of something, or something has changed and he doesnt have a mental picture.....he SHOULD do what this one did.

The you wont be cleared for the rest of the day was wrong, thats because his pride was challenged. And that was unacceptable.

Apart from that, the controller did what he felt was safe and kept everyone safe.


He didnt refuse G2 either...just said things have changed while ive been away and im not famiar with it so uncomfotable giving you MY clearance, however, if you want to use it you are welcome but it is at your risk, so if anything happens its all on you and i hereby removed from responsibility.

Completely acceptable.

28v was respectful and handled things correctly

N888sn was wrong to argue on air. The tone was Unprofessional, uncalled for and not useful over the air. The pilot of n888sn is not responsible for 10s of thousands of lives, only his chopper. ATC is responsible for all and need a FULL mental picture, not a narrow one like N888SN

Completely unprofessional from ATC, but the childish response was funny nonetheless.

D1chhead... Fire this little twerp.

These make me really wish i was an atc this is so childish

"Possible controller deviation."

American atc‘s never disappoint when it comes to show how not to do it

If only pilots had an FAA number to give ATC when they make mistakes