Achieving a High Hands Position

Great vid, finally profile made these.

Hi, I'm a little confused. I thought that you said that the riders elbow point should NOT be in the pads, but hers are. Also, in a different video, you said that you want the riders elbow points IN the pads! To make it more confusing, I'm watching the Giro races, and the riders have their elbows BEHIND the pads, holding the base of the forearm......can you please explain......