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Edit: I forgot to say that this is a very good video!
The video has a small mistake. In the combat phase ,and prior to the Declare Attackers step, all players get priority (in APNAP or, turn order) so you can indeed use instants and abilities. In this case, the defender should have said something like, “at the beginning of your Combat phase/step I Doom Blade your…”
Same edit: there are 6 times players can get priority in the Combat phase, the last is after all combat damage is done &is called the End of Combat step. This is used by sneaky & experienced players for shenanigans …and other things -but mostly shenanigans!
Actually the player has priority until moving to combat the beginning of combat triggers responses since thenplayer whose turn it was chose to do nothing there was nothing to respond to before phases change so odrics ability would trigger regardless...if you want to kill him before odrics ability happens youd have to destroy odric after draw step...i guess since its in paper theres an exception but otherwise the trigger wouldve been on the stack when he destroyed odric...i would say download and play arena to learn the stack or i guess mtgo even though i havent played it much.
ОтветитьI mean sure. But since we are at the end of the main phase. You shouldn't be able to cast sorceries.
ОтветитьThis why you don't play magic 😂 sweats
ОтветитьOh so this basically works the same as yugioh
ОтветитьI don't know much about magic but this concept/rule is especially relevant in yugioh. Newer players drop lots of games they flat-out won because their opponent will answer a monster with something at end of main phase and they'll just assume they're stuck going to battle right after. Super crucial in situations where you're opponent has main phase only chainable stuff you might want to force out as you eat through their board.
ОтветитьWtf
ОтветитьDont cheat lol
ОтветитьI didn't know that..... this is complicated and I'm confused
Ответитьso arena lied to me
Ответитьhe doesn't have priority this way. How did he destroy it?
ОтветитьIf only arena did this
ОтветитьThis is why a normal person would not say "In response to..." they would say "...before moving to combat I..." Because the phrase in "...in response to.." in magic, typically means you are responding at instant speed, or have something enables to respond at instant speed when you otherwise couldn't. You have to say communicate effectively to other person what you are doing or it creates confussion.
ОтветитьThat why you do it during declare attackers
ОтветитьI want to move to the combat phase, so any response?
If yes, after resolve, still in the main phase.
If not,move to the combat.
Am I correct?
i find it funny that MTG players complain abt yugioh whenever i stumble upon this channel's shorts
ОтветитьI'm calling bs. You can't play a sorcery once you declare you are moving out of the main phase. You have to wait until your second main phase.
ОтветитьSonetimes I forget there is subtle things like this that need explaining for newer players.
Ответить"Combat" means to pass priority until declare attackers step. If the opponent responds to "combat" at instant speed it is assumed to be happening at the beginning of combat step. This is a shortcut.
If you want to be able to cast at sorcery speed after your opponents response you need to declare "beginning of combat" specifically rather than "combat". As others have mentioned, this was enforced to reduce angle shooting and confusion in regards to the game state.
I had teferi time raveler out and he attacked me with a creature so I destroyed it at instant speed he said he had a response but he couldn't do it since it was combat
ОтветитьThis is why i quit because it's too toxic. Complicated interactions.
Ответитьconsistently the goat for these videos bro!!
ОтветитьThank you learned something watching and that awesome.
ОтветитьIt's the difference between "before you move to combat I x" and "at the beginning of your combat I x" but with odric the player whose turn it is gets priority first, so odric would happen before "at the beginning of your combat I x"
ОтветитьSo I've just got back into MTG after 24 years... While the basics are the same I find myself drowning in a keyword sea and stumbling thru phases. The info you provide is more valuable than words can express, thanks for helping me to not give up and rediscover the game I love!
ОтветитьIt doesn't work like this in magic arena
ОтветитьYeah KEEP THAT MAIN PHASE GOING BOY
ОтветитьI'm a Yu-Gi-Oh player. (Begining to start to play commander) But found it cool that this works the exact same way in Yu-Gi-Oh too.
ОтветитьIts also an asshole thing to say..... not a friendly way to play...... won't be playing with that guy again
ОтветитьI get in this argument with far too many people. In fact, I had to deal with it just last week. I call it "extending main phase." Nobody ever seems to believe me and I'm just like... "'moving into combat' isn't a phase." And they like to argue. I'm not even a judge or been active that long. I've only been playing actively for about 2 years.
ОтветитьMother of God, I will stick to Solitaire. Hahahahahahahahahahaahaha
Ответитьif anyone would do that in a tabletop game everyone else would be mad
ОтветитьThe trouble is when you explain this and a rule nazi says fuck you that's cheating your wrong.🫡 love my play group
Ответитьa judge once dq'd somebody because they were called to a table and the opponent lied about the exact wording
"move to [phase]" has always been contentious
I realize this may be the rule, but this is also what's called being a dick about it.
ОтветитьI am confused about the card victory chimes. It's a mana ability that gives a player of your choice 1 colorless mana. Let's say I have it out and my opponent has no lands and only a soul ring in hand. Is there any possible way for me to give them a colorless mana during their main phase so that they can cast soul ring? Or do they never regain priority after passing to me because my ability is a mana ability so they go straight into combat and lose the mana? I can't find the answer anywhere.
ОтветитьOkay BUT. Lets assume I have winota and you dont want her to Trigger . You can kill her in the Combat before attackers are declared right ?
ОтветитьThis is true for “ending your turn” as well.
ОтветитьDidn't know this one
ОтветитьYeah but a judge won't let that fly at a pro tour
ОтветитьJust perfect
ОтветитьUnderstanding priority is a really useful skill in MTG. I was playing Muldrotha, and someone else had a removal spell. Muldrotha resolved, and I go to play a land. Someone says, "Hold on, in response I'll kill Muldrotha." I tell him that's not how it works.
See, when Muldrotha resolves, as the active player I have priority. I can now take actions and place spells and abilities on the stack. Playing a land doesn't use the stack, so they can't respond.
So then I play a permanent from my graveyard, and they are insisting there must have been a window where they could have killed Muldrotha before the spell went on the stack. All the other players and a judge couldn't get him to understand so he just eventually admitted defeat without knowing why he was wrong
All I hear is words, but okay
ОтветитьI've gotten my table used to saying, "passing priority." Or "resolves?"
ОтветитьPlayer Communication tip: Use the term “at the end of your main phase.” Or “let me know when you change phases”
It cuts a lot of the BS out of why EDH players suck at magic fundamentals.
Can you do skullbriar with scar, or the new version with black sun zenith
ОтветитьYou’re doing good work. Happy to see these blowing up!
ОтветитьCan I activate black Market connections if I don't attack with a creature but enter combat?
ОтветитьIt's a form of shortcut.
Player A proposes a shortcut (move to combat).
Player B can either accept (in which case it happens) or propose a shortened version in which they intervene (in which case we pick up at that point).
Relevant rulings for the video
500.2. A phase or step in which players receive priority ends when the stack is empty and all players pass in succession. Simply having the stack become empty doesn’t cause such a phase or step to end; all players have to pass in succession with the stack empty. Because of this, each player gets a chance to add new things to the stack before that phase or step ends.
117.1a A player may cast an instant spell any time they have priority. A player may cast a noninstant spell during their main phase any time they have priority and the stack is empty
117.3b The active player receives priority after a spell or ability (other than a mana ability) resolves.
mtr 4.2 on shortcuts • If the active player passes priority with an empty stack during their first main phase, the non-active player is assumed to be acting in beginning of combat unless they are affecting whether a beginning of combat ability triggers. Then, after those actions resolve or no actions took place, the active player receives priority at the beginning of combat. Beginning of combat triggered abilities (even ones that target) may be announced at this time.